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Title: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 07:02:11 AM
Hello,

it's WIN strategy for binar option - FREE!

Really works with secondstrade for  5 SECONDS bet.
I earn every day with it.

1. place min bet to 5 seconds UP.
2. if lose, increase bet x2 and place bet 5 seconds UP again.
3. if win, go to step 1. If lose go to step 4.
4. increase bet x2.1 and place 5 seconds DOWN.
5. if win, go to step 1. if lose go to step 2.

works with binary options ONLY!!!
DONT WORKS with DICE and CASINO!!!


if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: twister on January 28, 2016, 09:33:26 AM
Hello,

it's WIN strategy for binar option - FREE!

Really works with secondstrade for  5 SECONDS bet.
I earn every day with it.

1. place min bet to 5 seconds UP.
2. if lose, increase bet x2 and place bet 5 seconds UP again.
3. if win, go to step 1. If lose go to step 4.
4. increase bet x2.1 and place 5 seconds DOWN.
5. if win, go to step 1. if lose go to step 2.


if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS

That sounds like Martingale with binary options, very risky imho, it may work sometimes but ultimately it'll fail and will take you down with it. So anyone thinking of trying this, be very careful.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Patatas on January 28, 2016, 09:37:19 AM
Could you post some screeshots of your winnings ? You know the faucet bets are actually different from betting with actual money.This indeed is a martingle with binary options.Not soon before the games takes the turn,your strategy will no longer work and to your surprise the funds will be history.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: debuni on January 28, 2016, 09:48:39 AM
Another gambler with *new winning strategy* :)
Pure Martingale. True lost of time and money.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: lenoli on January 28, 2016, 09:53:03 AM
Hello,

it's WIN strategy for binar option - FREE!

Really works with secondstrade for  5 SECONDS bet.
I earn every day with it.

1. place min bet to 5 seconds UP.
2. if lose, increase bet x2 and place bet 5 seconds UP again.
3. if win, go to step 1. If lose go to step 4.
4. increase bet x2.1 and place 5 seconds DOWN.
5. if win, go to step 1. if lose go to step 2.



its just usual pyramid, its very usfull i think.
Quote
if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS

if we loose you will donate for us? :)


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: acroman08 on January 28, 2016, 10:01:23 AM
Hello,

it's WIN strategy for binar option - FREE!

Really works with secondstrade for  5 SECONDS bet.
I earn every day with it.

1. place min bet to 5 seconds UP.
2. if lose, increase bet x2 and place bet 5 seconds UP again.
3. if win, go to step 1. If lose go to step 4.
4. increase bet x2.1 and place 5 seconds DOWN.
5. if win, go to step 1. if lose go to step 2.



its just usual pyramid, its very usfull i think.
Quote
if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS

if we loose you will donate for us? :)

so the ultimate purpose of this strategy is to be able to beg for btc if his strategy works?
thats low imo soorry.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: XERES on January 28, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
Post some proof that it works :)
people wont put their hard earned money on the line just because you say so :)


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: mobnepal on January 28, 2016, 12:43:22 PM
Post some proof that it works :)
people wont put their hard earned money on the line just because you say so :)
I think he don't have any screenshots of his wining. I doubt he even don't play with this strategy with his real money. Nopoint to follow this strategy, no any strategy will work in gambling.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: TipZ on January 28, 2016, 12:44:32 PM
One more time. Martingale only work with infinite bankroll !


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: SyGambler on January 28, 2016, 01:48:05 PM
when someone is looking to start binary options he should think about beating it without martinagle
so people should start studying the charts instead of thinking about martinagle and try learning the market
if you have no idea what you are doing in binary options this would be a catastrophe , betting on dice is better than using martinagle on binary options if you don't know what you are doing


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: marioantonini on January 28, 2016, 03:01:09 PM



if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS

Your method is the same like tour last text (i have quote only this) "please DOTATE"  ;D

if i have 5 satoshi for every new member open a thread for the new "method" for win, and the methos is only a martingale, i can stop to work for the rest of my life


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: eternalgloom on January 28, 2016, 03:05:18 PM
Why would you even run a martingale on binary options, you'd be better off just looking at the market & charts.
Seems really backwards to do this in my opinion.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 04:44:30 PM
Hello,

it's WIN strategy for binar option - FREE!

Really works with secondstrade for  5 SECONDS bet.
I earn every day with it.

1. place min bet to 5 seconds UP.
2. if lose, increase bet x2 and place bet 5 seconds UP again.
3. if win, go to step 1. If lose go to step 4.
4. increase bet x2.1 and place 5 seconds DOWN.
5. if win, go to step 1. if lose go to step 2.



its just usual pyramid, its very usfull i think.
Quote
if you good earn with my strategy, please dotate 1KCJFMqqnVi6uLS5mNceGP15JZqReC9esS

if we loose you will donate for us? :)

No :) I give strategy free. it's really work.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: pjsonowal on January 28, 2016, 04:47:26 PM
Binary options are also a form of gambling.You can say that there is lesser risk but you can't say there is no risk or you can always win by using martingale.Remember switching strategies is the main key to success and not to stick to a particular strategy all the time.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 04:50:30 PM
Binary options are also a form of gambling.You can say that there is lesser risk but you can't say there is no risk or you can always win by using martingale.Remember switching strategies is the main key to success and not to stick to a particular strategy all the time.

I know. but many people not belive me.
I win every day..


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: panjul07 on January 28, 2016, 04:54:05 PM
One more time. Martingale only work with infinite bankroll !

Infinite bankroll with very small base bet, yes it might work. But dont forget there is a max win in single bet and when you reach it, your infinite bankroll will fail.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: irfan_pak10 on January 28, 2016, 04:55:47 PM
loooooooooooooooooooooool, DONT USE this Strategy, i WAS using the Same strategy Yesterday, I already know this strategy [I think many gambler Do the same] But See Below what Happened to me.

I was Playing Good, and Made more than .07BTC But eventually Lost all .2BTC I was Collecting my Palindrome  :'(

https://i.imgur.com/aVcXEbG.png
https://i.imgur.com/QA2B1OD.png

And many more Which went Below, and I cant Copy


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 04:57:06 PM
One more time. Martingale only work with infinite bankroll !

Infinite bankroll with very small base bet, yes it might work. But dont forget there is a max win in single bet and when you reach it, your infinite bankroll will fail.


it's not classic martingale.
need change bet UP to DOWN.

try is from min bet 0.0005btc

and make review please


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: sase007 on January 28, 2016, 05:01:48 PM
I did that a few days ago with the PrimeDice API!

It worked for around the first 10-20 bets and then got consecutive losses of 100 satoshi. So, after rising to around 2000 satoshi, it then fell back down to 0!
Quite a risky method.

Also, why not bet up, and if loss, bet up.
If win from bet up, bet DOWN?


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: RealMadrid on January 28, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
just martingale, not good, if you don't have big enough bankroll, you will be bust very soon. don't try it, guys.

and binary option pays only 190%, it is less than general sportsbook or casino games like dice, they have lower house edges, so binary is not a good gambling for ordinary people, only good for pro traders


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
loooooooooooooooooooooool, DONT USE this Strategy, i WAS using the Same strategy Yesterday, I already know this strategy [I think many gambler Do the same] But See Below what Happened to me.

I was Playing Good, and Made more than .07BTC But eventually Lost all .2BTC I was Collecting my Palindrome  :'(


And many more Which went Below, and I cant Copy

I see use another strategy!
my strategy is not classic martingale and works with binary options ONLY!!! DONT WORKS with DICE and CASINO!!!
and please use bet 5 seconds


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
I did that a few days ago with the PrimeDice API!

It worked for around the first 10-20 bets and then got consecutive losses of 100 satoshi. So, after rising to around 2000 satoshi, it then fell back down to 0!
Quite a risky method.

Also, why not bet up, and if loss, bet up.
If win from bet up, bet DOWN?

works with binary options ONLY!!!
DONT WORKS with DICE and CASINO!!!


bet up, bet down is my experience few months...



Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
Post some proof that it works :)
people wont put their hard earned money on the line just because you say so :)


you can try it.

I don't sell strategy, I give it free!!!



Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: maku on January 28, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
Op, your strategy is mixing martingale with superstitions.
The reason the martingale method commonly bankrupts gamblers is that the chance of you losing at any one given time doesn't change.
But the amount you must bet in order to win back your original wager increases exponentially, many gamblers forget that part.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 28, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
I make some bets now.. please see proof ;D

http://i66.tinypic.com/w9h2q8.jpg


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: fulgdenea on January 28, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
But we all are afraid of using martingale in betting in format because it suck in long term so that i will avoid this one to use anymore, i also lost a lot of money because of martingale it doesn't make sense to me it will work in real. ;)


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: sase007 on January 28, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
I did that a few days ago with the PrimeDice API!

It worked for around the first 10-20 bets and then got consecutive losses of 100 satoshi. So, after rising to around 2000 satoshi, it then fell back down to 0!
Quite a risky method.

Also, why not bet up, and if loss, bet up.
If win from bet up, bet DOWN?

works with binary options ONLY!!!
DONT WORKS with DICE and CASINO!!!


bet up, bet down is my experience few months...



Dice is a binary option isn't it?
If not, what is?
In this idea, instead of changing the amoutn you bet, you just change the odds, leaving a slightly more likley win chance.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on January 29, 2016, 01:42:53 AM
Just like what others said after reading OP's message, its martingale strategy applied to binary options, it's not going to work, this martingale strategy is not working either to the dice sites so don't even try it.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 29, 2016, 02:33:39 AM
Just like what others said after reading OP's message, its martingale strategy applied to binary options, it's not going to work, this martingale strategy is not working either to the dice sites so don't even try it.

what???

see my proof.

i earn every day.

i give and share strategy free.


do you try it?


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 29, 2016, 06:35:53 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: lenoli on January 29, 2016, 06:53:35 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

no one, because its  simple pyramid and soon you will loose all your money, if you will keep on playing with this strategy


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: iCan on January 29, 2016, 06:59:48 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 29, 2016, 07:30:26 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: enhu on January 29, 2016, 07:43:19 AM
Not something worth the try, you would rather wanna try the the strategy I've copied from forex forum but it applies to secondstrade binary trading using the meta trader. martingale just work when its your lucky day but will always fail.

try this instead. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328523.0


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: iCan on January 29, 2016, 07:47:21 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D

Yep as you wish, thx god that your nick is not Napoleon or Hitler


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: piebeyb on January 29, 2016, 07:54:00 AM
I think it's like a joke, but I know this kind you need to inform us in this thread for the strategy you have, at least it assures all your users here


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 29, 2016, 08:48:40 AM
I think it's like a joke, but I know this kind you need to inform us in this thread for the strategy you have, at least it assures all your users here

i shared strategy free! you can earn btc every day ;D


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: panjul07 on January 29, 2016, 03:11:02 PM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D

Just a delution IMO :) no gamblers who always win. They must get some loses, including you.
Hope your name brings what you expected on gambling. I dont want to hear you change your name to LosersOfBet in the future.lol


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: hasiramasenju on January 29, 2016, 03:23:49 PM
last time i use similar strategy such this and i lost all my money and if you only win not lose i guess you already rich from your strategy


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 29, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D

Just a delution IMO :) no gamblers who always win. They must get some loses, including you.
Hope your name brings what you expected on gambling. I dont want to hear you change your name to LosersOfBet in the future.lol

I win every day. it's my work.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Herbert2020 on January 29, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
when someone is looking to start binary options he should think about beating it without martinagle
so people should start studying the charts instead of thinking about martinagle and try learning the market
if you have no idea what you are doing in binary options this would be a catastrophe , betting on dice is better than using martinagle on binary options if you don't know what you are doing

that is the first thing that came to my mind as i read the strategy. it is not the conventional betting on pure chance. you should study the market and try to speculate and win that way. using martingale is not going to work even if you change it from up to down and vice versa.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: maku on January 29, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D

Just a delution IMO :) no gamblers who always win. They must get some loses, including you.
Hope your name brings what you expected on gambling. I dont want to hear you change your name to LosersOfBet in the future.lol

I win every day. it's my work.
And you ONLY win? It is rather hard to believe, considering that martingale is not full proof system. Can you share some screenshot of your bet feed with all the wins?


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 30, 2016, 08:05:05 AM
really work,

who try my strategy?

please review..

looks like you are surprised that this "WIN strategy" can "really works" )))
Nope this strategy is old as hell, and already proofed that you will lose in long terms   

I'm King of Bet  :) i only WINs!
no lose ;D

Just a delution IMO :) no gamblers who always win. They must get some loses, including you.
Hope your name brings what you expected on gambling. I dont want to hear you change your name to LosersOfBet in the future.lol

I win every day. it's my work.
And you ONLY win? It is rather hard to believe, considering that martingale is not full proof system. Can you share some screenshot of your bet feed with all the wins?

yes, win only!
I don't sell strategy and no need proof.
you can try it free and make review.
thanks


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: bajing on January 30, 2016, 09:56:52 AM
i'm best bet on binary, so i dont have good strategy/method just follow my feeling bet on up or down but sadly always lose.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: wearepoor on January 30, 2016, 02:09:09 PM
Is it really work, i dont think that. I am also new to binary options and looking for some strategies to make some good money. There are so many negative feedback on this strategy, it would be great if you please post the screenshot of your winning so that people can trust you.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: ACAB on January 30, 2016, 02:20:17 PM
You can't %100 win with Martingale system in any of the gambling option. Binary included to this.
If you have unlimited amount of cash then you can play this, but if you don't you'll lose in the long run.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Kevin77 on January 31, 2016, 07:06:32 AM
There is no proven method or strategy for any binary option out there, that will keep paying you long-term. Its all a matter of luck really, this is another form of indirect gambling, where you are placing your money on stocks and shares, so I could not conclude any differences....


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Supercrypt on January 31, 2016, 07:54:12 AM
There is no proven method or strategy for any binary option out there, that will keep paying you long-term. Its all a matter of luck really, this is another form of indirect gambling, where you are placing your money on stocks and shares, so I could not conclude any differences....

The only difference is these are big commodities like gold, silver, tea, forex etc that effects the trading in every part of the world. But binary options are not that kind of gambling where you sit round a table and place your bets, hoping for number 36 to come in, oh no,,,much more than that I am afraid. You are a winner if you keep your wallet firmly in your back pocket, never lose, no regrets.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: equator on January 31, 2016, 08:01:55 AM
As much i have played the games in all gambling section their is no permanent strategy to win the bets, it may be for some while your strategy will work but for long it wont at the end you will see that you are starting to lose it,

Their is only one strategy just Play according to the Games is running and try to figure it out and play on that instant time and change the strategy often.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: adaseb on January 31, 2016, 10:37:27 AM
One more time. Martingale only work with infinite bankroll !

Infinite bankroll with very small base bet, yes it might work. But dont forget there is a max win in single bet and when you reach it, your infinite bankroll will fail.


it's not classic martingale.
need change bet UP to DOWN.

try is from min bet 0.0005btc

and make review please

It can take a while but eventually you will have 20 losses in a row and you will be cleaned out. Its worse then regular dice because the house edge is also much higher with the mining fee that needs to be included in each bet.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Betwrong on January 31, 2016, 12:12:45 PM
Is it really work, i dont think that. I am also new to binary options and looking for some strategies to make some good money. There are so many negative feedback on this strategy, it would be great if you please post the screenshot of your winning so that people can trust you.

Yes, I'd like to see the screenshots too. But even without seeing them it's obvious to me that there can't be any really working strategy in gambling. All those "strategies" are the reasons people are losing their money trusting to something they shouldn't.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: BitMaxz on January 31, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
I think its just the same martingale strategy and i think you will still lose in the end. If you are greedy and you are not satisfied with your profit you will lose all your bitcoin... so its better to study the fluctuate of every currency...


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: HeroCat on January 31, 2016, 01:46:00 PM
In binary options you can always win, if you know the right one methode. I think martingale using in binary options, can be profitable and smart decision.  ;)


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on January 31, 2016, 05:24:47 PM
In binary options you can always win, if you know the right one methode. I think martingale using in binary options, can be profitable and smart decision.  ;)

what method do you know?
please share too


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Pk880058 on January 31, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
I have seen in most of the dice or gambling casino sites that if one strategy work for some time but some time later the software changes the game and the strategy which was giving profit changes and it start to lose and the losing streak can go high, as the software detects the strategy and makes it reverse.

So it is like that on that instant which strategy works just play it and as soon as you start loosing just change the way of strategy and start to use another strategy, just dont stick to old strategy and loose the coin fully until you come to know about it.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: sase007 on January 31, 2016, 06:12:48 PM
I have seen in most of the dice or gambling casino sites that if one strategy work for some time but some time later the software changes the game and the strategy which was giving profit changes and it start to lose and the losing streak can go high, as the software detects the strategy and makes it reverse.

So it is like that on that instant which strategy works just play it and as soon as you start loosing just change the way of strategy and start to use another strategy, just dont stick to old strategy and loose the coin fully until you come to know about it.

I think that this is different to what he is doing.
He is simply using a strategy that will continue to work (not work) with binary options.

What you are thinking of, is people that hack sites or try to use api-style systems that are not released by the actual gambling company. In this case, there is eventually problems. However, reputalbe sitges always leave old APIs active and add new ones as well to avoid technical complications with the architecture of their system.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: zeaderza on January 31, 2016, 07:46:36 PM

This strategy you write here is martingale.
Martingale is a  bankrupt strategy unless you have infinite Bitcoin.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: adaseb on February 01, 2016, 12:11:03 AM
Only way that gives you an edge with binary options is betting that the US dollar will rally when the employment numbers come out every month. For the last few months, employment has been really good and should continue and you have an edge and can bet against that.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on February 01, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
who try this strategy too?
please make review..


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: KingOfBet on February 08, 2016, 09:25:54 AM
I win every day.
who use my strategy too?


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: RussianRaibow on February 15, 2016, 01:47:04 PM
I win every day.
who use my strategy too?

You still haven't shown screenshots.  You may have won before with this strategy, but if you do this long enough you will lose it all.


Title: Re: WIN strategy for binary options - FREE!
Post by: Kepler510 on February 15, 2016, 02:17:15 PM
I win every day.
who use my strategy too?

You still haven't shown screenshots.  You may have won before with this strategy, but if you do this long enough you will lose it all.

I think the screenshots are not necessary. All it takes is the motivation to profit from gambling. Because it is just an image screenshots and not real, we need is a clear thinking to make a good strategy to win.