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Economy => Computer hardware => Topic started by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 04:05:06 PM



Title: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 04:05:06 PM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: adaseb on February 02, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
So around $825 per miner ?


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: yochdog on February 02, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.

$717 per TH??  Is this a typo? 


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: generalt on February 02, 2016, 06:52:32 PM
Well to be fair it does include power supplies and 8 months of hosting.  Do you mind me asking what the hosting rate is?


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
So around $825 per miner ?

Umm no that would be insane.

It includes PSU, PSU boards, pcie cables and 8 month of power and hosting.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 08:02:05 PM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.

$717 per TH??  Is this a typo?  

More like your misreading it. I guess it could consider it $717 per Th for 8 months with free power and you own all the gear in the end.  Better to see it as your buying all the hardware and 8 months worth of power and hosting.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 08:02:51 PM
Well to be fair it does include power supplies and 8 months of hosting.  Do you mind me asking what the hosting rate is?

The  contract was arranged at $50 per KW/Month


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 02, 2016, 08:04:07 PM
Just a reminder as it states in OP you can MAKE OFFERS.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: yochdog on February 02, 2016, 10:34:11 PM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.

$717 per TH??  Is this a typo?  

More like your misreading it. I guess it could consider it $717 per Th for 8 months with free power and you own all the gear in the end.  Better to see it as your buying all the hardware and 8 months worth of power and hosting.

Ahhhh, makes total sense.  Thanks for the clarification! 


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: smracer on February 03, 2016, 02:36:50 AM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.

$717 per TH??  Is this a typo?  

More like your misreading it. I guess it could consider it $717 per Th for 8 months with free power and you own all the gear in the end.  Better to see it as your buying all the hardware and 8 months worth of power and hosting.

Ahhhh, makes total sense.  Thanks for the clarification! 

hosting is 6K/month X 8 months - $48K.
Cables - 1K
PSU's - $1250
JW boards - $3250

That leaves $111,500 for the S5's or $557.50 each.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MCHouston on February 03, 2016, 03:48:04 AM
One of my customers is interested in selling the below which is hosted by me.

200 Antminer S5
50 IBM 2880W PSU
800 36" J4bberwock 36" cables
50 J4bberwock IBM 2880W Boards

8 months of hosting included

My customer is looking for 165K USD, but the price is negotiable. Make an offer you feel is fair and I will relay it to them.

$717 per TH??  Is this a typo?  

More like your misreading it. I guess it could consider it $717 per Th for 8 months with free power and you own all the gear in the end.  Better to see it as your buying all the hardware and 8 months worth of power and hosting.

Ahhhh, makes total sense.  Thanks for the clarification! 

hosting is 6K/month X 8 months - $48K.
Cables - 1K
PSU's - $1250
JW boards - $3250

That leaves $111,500 for the S5's or $557.50 each.


Prices on wires and PSU's are a little low. I wish I could still get IBMs for $25 each but your numbers are not too far off.

But yeah it is close, but I like I said I will relay all offers reasonable or even semi reasonable offers to my customer.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: MarkAz on February 03, 2016, 05:29:42 AM
Prices on wires and PSU's are a little low. I wish I could still get IBMs for $25 each but your numbers are not too far off.

But yeah it is close, but I like I said I will relay all offers reasonable or even semi reasonable offers to my customer.

The problem with his initial offer is that when you go through the math, it's way off the mark, so it's not even worth making a counter.  Even eBay's normally high prices are in the $250-$300 range (actual sold listings in the last week), so coming in at that price just says that they have no idea what the market is for the S5, and probably won't come down to anything workable.  It's also ironic that most of the value is in the prepaid hosting and power supplies - heck, I could use those!  :)

Assuming that he does come back with a reasonable starting offer, what do you charge to pull the gear and ship it back in 8 months (not the actual shipping cost, but for your time pulling and boxing them up, etc)?  Right now they're a bit over break-even mining, but in 8 months they're going to be underwater at your rates, even though they are really good.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Tupsu on February 06, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC

This is the real price of hosted S5
Today, the power supplies are more valuable than the S5


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: adaseb on February 06, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC

This is the real price of hosted S5
Today, the power supplies are more valuable than the S5

What is the true value if you have it shipped?


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Tupsu on February 06, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC

This is the real price of hosted S5
Today, the power supplies are more valuable than the S5

What is the true value if you have it shipped?

Is shipping from MCHouston  free and is included in the sales price ?

 S3 redeem from hashnest was - The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.
Shipping costs from Shenzhen to final destination will be calculated by shipping company rates.

But S3 is 6kg and S5 is max 4 kg. So I hope that will be cheaper as S3 shipping.


I have in hashnest total 265 pieces Antminer S5  and the average purchase price was 0.16 BTC from S5.

I started buying 15 January 2016.

If the BTC price does not rise, I am still at a loss.
But it is not   165K USD  for 200 S5 with PSU and 8 months hosting.



Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: adaseb on February 07, 2016, 12:40:42 AM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC

This is the real price of hosted S5
Today, the power supplies are more valuable than the S5

What is the true value if you have it shipped?

Is shipping from MCHouston  free and is included in the sales price ?

 S3 redeem from hashnest was - The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.
Shipping costs from Shenzhen to final destination will be calculated by shipping company rates.

But S3 is 6kg and S5 is max 4 kg. So I hope that will be cheaper as S3 shipping.


I have in hashnest total 265 pieces Antminer S5  and the average purchase price was 0.16 BTC from S5.

I started buying 15 January 2016.

If the BTC price does not rise, I am still at a loss.
But it is not   165K USD  for 200 S5 with PSU and 8 months hosting.




Are those miners at Hashnest actual S5 miners or are they all S7 miners and they just set the speeds accordingly?

I didn't think they had any actual physical S4/S5 miners still hashing there.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: tlon19 on February 07, 2016, 05:38:20 AM
50K cash or btc


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Matias on February 07, 2016, 06:55:02 PM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC
 

What do you mean?

https://www.hashnest.com/hash_currencies/24/shop

Price: 367.0 USD(0.97810589฿) 


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Tupsu on February 07, 2016, 10:28:15 PM
Tell your customer that  today in Hashnest
1xS5=0.1 BTC
 

What do you mean?

https://www.hashnest.com/hash_currencies/24/shop

Price: 367.0 USD(0.97810589฿)  

Price : Price/GHS 0.00003400 buy 1155 GHs for 0.03927000 BTC = 1x Antminer S5 .

Miner Redemption
7.    Customers holding enough GH/s to constitute an entire machine of the associated type (e.g., 1155 GH/s of Antminer S5) are eligible to convert that amount of GH/s into the used unit of the associated type. If a user does not have enough GH/s of the associated kind to exchange for actual hardware, then this user is not eligible for hardware redemption.

So today  S5 in hashnest is 0.04 BTC +  The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.
+ Shipping from Shenzhen to your country.

Are those miners at Hashnest actual S5 miners or are they all S7 miners and they just set the speeds accordingly?

I didn't think they had any actual physical S4/S5 miners still hashing there.

I want redeem my 275 pieces S5


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: generalt on February 08, 2016, 01:09:25 AM

Price : Price/GHS 0.00003400 buy 1155 GHs for 0.03927000 BTC = 1x Antminer S5 .

Miner Redemption
7.    Customers holding enough GH/s to constitute an entire machine of the associated type (e.g., 1155 GH/s of Antminer S5) are eligible to convert that amount of GH/s into the used unit of the associated type. If a user does not have enough GH/s of the associated kind to exchange for actual hardware, then this user is not eligible for hardware redemption.

So today  S5 in hashnest is 0.04 BTC +  The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.
+ Shipping from Shenzhen to your country.

Are those miners at Hashnest actual S5 miners or are they all S7 miners and they just set the speeds accordingly?

I didn't think they had any actual physical S4/S5 miners still hashing there.

I want redeem my 275 pieces S5

That sounds like a great deal as long as shipping back to you is a decent price.  Can you redeem them at any time or do you have to wait until the cost of running them is more than the bitcoin they mine?


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Matias on February 08, 2016, 06:53:11 AM
But you can't get those miners from Hashpool yet?

1.    If due to falling bitcoin exchange rate or increase in mining difficulty, the electricity fee is greater than 90% of mining revenues, mining contracts on Hashnest will enter a “redemption waiting period”.

5.    Prior to a machine entering into this hardware redemption period, Hashnest will not accept any requests for hardware redemption.


BTW, handling fee alone is 50 dollars atm:


3.    Handling fees are set at US$50, and domestic Chinese shipping (including to the export) and international shipping fees will be collected according to the actual charge.




Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: adaseb on February 08, 2016, 03:17:05 PM
But you can't get those miners from Hashpool yet?

1.    If due to falling bitcoin exchange rate or increase in mining difficulty, the electricity fee is greater than 90% of mining revenues, mining contracts on Hashnest will enter a “redemption waiting period”.

5.    Prior to a machine entering into this hardware redemption period, Hashnest will not accept any requests for hardware redemption.


BTW, handling fee alone is 50 dollars atm:


3.    Handling fees are set at US$50, and domestic Chinese shipping (including to the export) and international shipping fees will be collected according to the actual charge.




So how much to ship to USA? Probably another $50 ?


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Matias on February 08, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
With Antminer s3 prices were

"Each 450 GH/s of ANTS3 can be redeemed for one unit of AntMiner S3 physical hardware, which net weight is 6KG. The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.

Shipping costs from Shenzhen to final destination will be calculated by shipping company rates.
"

So they also charge additional USD 15 for transportation inside China. So for AntS5 50 USD handling and packaging,  XX USD shipping to Shenzhen and then normal shipping company rate.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: adaseb on February 08, 2016, 03:44:37 PM
With Antminer s3 prices were

"Each 450 GH/s of ANTS3 can be redeemed for one unit of AntMiner S3 physical hardware, which net weight is 6KG. The handling and packaging fee for each unit is set at USD $20 per unit, and the cost to ship each machine to Shenzhen is USD $15.

Shipping costs from Shenzhen to final destination will be calculated by shipping company rates.
"

So they also charge additional USD 15 for transportation inside China. So for AntS5 50 USD handling and packaging,  XX USD shipping to Shenzhen and then normal shipping company rate.

So most likely nobody will be actually paying to get physical miners.


Title: Re: [WTS] 200 x Antminer S5 with Hosting
Post by: Matias on February 08, 2016, 05:38:02 PM
There might be a small window to sell it with profit. Or then not :P

Today I bought 1,176 Ghs with 0.039984 BTC in order to get one Antminer S5. Yes Antminer S5 is almost free. It is worth noticing, that when maintenance cost is 90% of profits, Hashnest closes hash trading,  and it is now 89,79%, so market closes very soon.

Probably I will pay shipping and try to sell it immediately.