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Title: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 02, 2016, 07:58:34 PM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: shorena on February 02, 2016, 08:45:08 PM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.

The sender pays fee with bitcoin. What you are looking for is not possible. Well, you can not pay a fee when you create a transaction, but it will most likely not get confirmed. Some services like Xapo offer "free" transactions, where they pay the fee for you. Mabye thats what you are looking for?


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: SirChiko on February 02, 2016, 08:46:40 PM
Probably all sites require an fee as network itself requires fees.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 02, 2016, 10:15:27 PM
I just need to be able move bitcoin from site A to say site B or C and after 24 hours,send back to site A.
Roughly...

Its just a matter of getting around leaving my funds at this site and spreading it around more on other sites.
If I send to my wallet every time it would add up in fees and was thinking out loud in a sense,wondering if there was a loophole.
Maybe I am being to Scottish in my thinking lol!


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: notlist3d on February 02, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
I just need to be able move bitcoin from site A to say site B or C and after 24 hours,send back to site A.
Roughly...

Its just a matter of getting around leaving my funds at this site and spreading it around more on other sites.
If I send to my wallet every time it would add up in fees and was thinking out loud in a sense,wondering if there was a loophole.
Maybe I am being to Scottish in my thinking lol!

No loophole really that will help.   If wanting to reduce the amount I would suggest 3 main wallets.   One that is a paper wallet 100 percent cold, you send long term holdings there.   I recently have been using and loving hardware wallets, so a second that you will  use more often on a hardware wallet.   And last a hot wallet for daily spending.

If you have those 3 and use them right it will work out pretty well in my mind.  Only thing is if your talking about dust or faucet type payments then xapo might come into play, but I avoid faucets pennies for hours or work does not excite me.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 02, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
I did faucets to learn bitcoin 2 years ago and agree it was not worth the time. But great for those wanting to see how it all works without losing funds.
Cold storage is something I really need to start doing. When blockchain was having problems I started branching out but failed to get into the cold storage aspect.

Thanks for the replies


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: romero121 on February 03, 2016, 05:38:28 AM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


I'm not sure about it. Every site has charges. Some sites don't charge when the btc is send within the site itself.
Even to increase transaction through their sites some sites might be providing free of charge. Try getting it
and if possible pass the information.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: mark coins on February 03, 2016, 05:40:57 AM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


are you looking for an exchange site or a gambling site? i can recommend using coins.ph (exchange site) if you want free transaction fees when sending coins and/or casino.directbet.eu for gambling site that doesnt deduct transaction fee from your balance, they cover it


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Amph on February 03, 2016, 07:37:14 AM
load any of the client, and do not pay any fee, simple as that, the downside will be the time to wait for your transaction, but if you're lucky it can get a fast confirmation

even bitcoin has "taxes", internal taxes, which are payed to the miners, you can not escape from this


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: avw1982 on February 03, 2016, 08:35:28 AM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


Its about your account settings in block chain. If you go with without fees in transaction the confirmation speed will be very low and take hours and hours dude. Medium range account will cost you less transaction fee and comfort for everyone.
Business people can switch with reliable and high efficient setting.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: PhilipPens on February 04, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
This guy is right. you should follow his advice. You can not make any transactions without paying any fee for it. Try the best of the listed abilities. And you will not have problems) 


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 04, 2016, 12:55:02 PM
Honestly have not used blockchain for a well and did not know about the variations of fees. The speed of transfer is critical, so not paying the fee is a no go. To bad you could not pay a lump fee for a day worth of transfers.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 04, 2016, 01:04:11 PM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


are you looking for an exchange site or a gambling site? i can recommend using coins.ph (exchange site) if you want free transaction fees when sending coins and/or casino.directbet.eu for gambling site that doesnt deduct transaction fee from your balance, they cover it

Will look into. Directbet as that sounds about right for what I am looking for, as long as you do not need to send back to the same address.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: morantis on February 04, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
The fees are occurring through the network and not the service provider.  It is possible that some sites may ask for an additional fee and some may make the fact that there are fees more transparent than others, but there is a fee in the network transaction.  When paying a person Bitcoins for whatever reason, watch carefully whether those fees come out of the total or are added on to the total, that can save a lot of confusion.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: zeaderza on February 05, 2016, 10:32:22 PM
All sites and wallets need a small fee to prevent spam attacks.
If you want to tranfer bitcoins without a small fee you need to wait more days for one confirmation.(minim 400 satoshi)


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: arbitrage on February 05, 2016, 11:23:39 PM
What happens when you forgot to pay fee, how long can it take for transactions to be confirmed?
Is it possible to be lost in blockchain and forgotten, never confirmed?


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 06, 2016, 05:09:00 AM
What happens when you forgot to pay fee, how long can it take for transactions to be confirmed?
Is it possible to be lost in blockchain and forgotten, never confirmed?

Did this once at a atm and I forgot to click the miners fee, waited around a hour till I figured out what was wrong. Sent a 2nd transaction paying the fee and it pushed both transactions through. Guy running it said it could have 8 hours or longer.
All I know is its worth paying it for speed.
Also wouldnt like coin sitting out over night say, wondering if it went through.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Funny on February 06, 2016, 05:13:57 AM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


Localbitcoins, coinbase, DirectBet wallet. They all pay the transaction fee for you. I actually use Localbitcoins as a wallet because it's so convenient to both transfer BTC in and out and sell your bitcoin and the same time.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Decoded on February 06, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
You can pay a transaction without fees, but you will have to wait a long time for it to be confirmed, maybe it might even bounce back to you.

I use coinbase for my everyday transactions simply because they're reliable (I think) and they pay my TX fees. Everything else goes into cold storage.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 06, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
Looking for sites that do not charge transfer fees when you move bitcoin to their sites.
I know a lot do not charge incoming but rare to find ones that do not charge on the way out,unless you gambled at their site.
Really only ones I can think of!
Also no hold times that are crazy like hours.


Localbitcoins, coinbase, DirectBet wallet. They all pay the transaction fee for you. I actually use Localbitcoins as a wallet because it's so convenient to both transfer BTC in and out and sell your bitcoin and the same time.

Never really looked into Localbitcoins for wallet purposes,will have to check that out. Coinbase makes me a little weary due to what I read in the forums about sudden shutdown of accounts due to gambling and what not. Did not know Directbet had a wallet either,if I recall I send my bet and it would send back right after grading. Will have to take a look again,since it would be nice to have funds sitting on that site for instant wagers. Times I used it,I had to wait for confirmations and line would move,got a tad frustrating. Realize I was using it wrong when
I contacted them through email.

Looks like gambling sites are the best way to achieve what I was looking for,but I will look harder into the issue of hidden fees.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: jonathgb25 on February 08, 2016, 06:25:00 AM
In our country, we have a online wallet that pays our fees. You can visit it here: LINK (http://infocore.xyz/go/CoinsPH)


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: romero121 on February 08, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
There is no such sites with free transaction charges. Transaction charges are free only if you trade within a particular site. The charge is supposed to given by buyer so the transaction charge will be provided by the particular sites in such cases.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 08, 2016, 07:32:58 PM
There is no such sites with free transaction charges. Transaction charges are free only if you trade within a particular site. The charge is supposed to given by buyer so the transaction charge will be provided by the particular sites in such cases.

Seems like we got a few conflicting views on this issue. I know gambling sites eat the fee most of the time if you use the site,so playing a few hands of poker in a plus situation and then transfer out should accomplish what I am looking for. But I am looking for more than one site that I can achieve this goal.
Supposed to be and what actually is the case are two different things. Always a loop hole to take advantage of in these situations I think. Just a matter of knowing enough of them.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: Pk880058 on February 10, 2016, 06:41:52 AM
If you are looking for the wallets  to transfer bitcoins without transfer fee then you can go with COINBASE.com and xapo this sites dont charge you when ever you are withdrawing from that sites. and if you want to check with gambling sites. then directbet.eu site is their where you can withdraw it without getting charged with transaction fee. and their sports betting is more unique and you dont have to register just start betting and transfer the bitcoin which you want to bet.


Title: Re: bitcoin sites(no transfer fees)
Post by: jonathgb25 on February 10, 2016, 07:54:52 AM
There is no such sites with free transaction charges. Transaction charges are free only if you trade within a particular site. The charge is supposed to given by buyer so the transaction charge will be provided by the particular sites in such cases.

There are and its coinbase, xapo, and coins.ph. They didn't charge you for the fee but technically, in every transactions there must be a fee to be confirmed for a short amount of time.