Title: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: lizthegrey on June 08, 2011, 03:12:05 PM After having seen a fair amount of incivility on IRC and on the project forums, I feel that it would be appropriate for us to define as a community standards for behavior in order to make the community a more welcoming place for all people regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, national origin, disability, etc. Many other prominent open source projects such as Ubuntu, Fedora, Apache, OLPC have codes of conduct.
This is important in order to ensure that Bitcoin becomes mainstream and is used by a wide range of users and is accepting of contributions from developers that might otherwise feel harassed, threatened, or marginalized. Modeled after https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1 Code: =Bitcoin Code of Conduct v1.1= Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: zer0 on June 08, 2011, 03:38:20 PM any developer who can't handle neckbeards being neckbeards in IRC should kill themselves
i just violated your code of conduct Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: Mike Hearn on June 09, 2011, 07:38:56 PM +1, yes please. The forum/IRC is sometimes becoming less useful because of trolling by people who aren't actually doing any work.
The proposed code sounds OK, but having some basic (enforced) civility is more important than the details. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: lumos on June 10, 2011, 06:00:40 AM don't police.
all information is good information, information is entropy and leads to more complex outcomes> to maximize human race entropy, people shouldn't not kill, not delete, disperse to other planets. leads to more improbable and varied outcomes, little logistic maps are started more often. and the grand fractal is consolidated. although trolls represent a short term loss to you, they could make one joke and then say something that changes your life, people have alot of potential energy. best to have everything open because of this. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: MyFarm on June 10, 2011, 06:24:18 AM The best solution is to lead by example. "Be the change you want to see in the world."
Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: Chris Acheson on June 10, 2011, 07:14:27 AM I think this is a good idea, but it will probably encounter a lot of resistance.
Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: Chris Acheson on June 12, 2011, 12:34:47 PM I'm bumping this topic because it deserves consideration, especially in light of recent events.
I wrote in this thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=15643.0): Quote I generally agree with what Jessy Kang has written, however the problem that needed to be addressed was that a lot of the newcomers were abusive. It's fine to be skeptical, but a level of civility still needs to be maintained. We don't want the Greater Internet Fuckwads driving away the genuinely curious and interested newcomers (along with everyone else, for that matter). Unfortunately, a lot of libertarians (the dominant faction around here) feel the need to apply "laissez faire" to forum moderation policy, so I expect getting anything like this implemented will be an uphill battle. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: TradersEdgeDice on June 12, 2011, 12:54:46 PM As I mentioned in another thread, maybe it's time to focus bitcoin.org like a typical open source project forum and leave anything outside of the focus to other sites.
bitcoin.org can set up a wiki page where any site running a bitcoin forum can list themselves. That particular thread has some pure psycho comments about free speech. There's free speech and there is being a troll. This site was slammed with trolls during the price collapse from $30.00 to $13.00. And such behavior is rising with media exposure. There are enough bitcoin advocates for bitcoin.org to divest itself of hosting anything but discussions most pertinent to the project. By decentralizing discussion, propaganda attacks become very difficult if not impossible. With everybody coming to bitcoin.org, it's too easy to disrupt the flow of information. Nobody's going to the treasury department or the Federal Reserve websites to discuss the U.S. dollar. Nobody's going to AMD or nVidia sites for quality information about over clocking and other assorted hardware hacks. There are robust markets for those kind of information. They don't even need to shut this one down. They can just start a thread listing other bitcoin forums and encourage people to patronize them. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: Jessy Kang on June 12, 2011, 02:45:06 PM As I mentioned in another thread, maybe it's time to focus bitcoin.org like a typical open source project forum and leave anything outside of the focus to other sites. bitcoin.org can set up a wiki page where any site running a bitcoin forum can list themselves. An excellent suggestion. I agree but think that for other sites to thrive bitcoin.org should, as suggested eventually try to limit its scope to core Bitcoin functionality and architecture issues. An excellent point as well regarding the social engineering and single point failure vulnerabilities inherent in the current format. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: lizthegrey on June 12, 2011, 03:37:38 PM As I mentioned in another thread, maybe it's time to focus bitcoin.org like a typical open source project forum and leave anything outside of the focus to other sites. bitcoin.org can set up a wiki page where any site running a bitcoin forum can list themselves. An excellent suggestion. I agree but think that for other sites to thrive bitcoin.org should, as suggested eventually try to limit its scope to core Bitcoin functionality and architecture issues. An excellent point as well regarding the social engineering and single point failure vulnerabilities inherent in the current format. Title: Re: [Proposal] Project code of conduct Post by: genewitch on June 12, 2011, 09:13:28 PM As I mentioned in another thread, maybe it's time to focus bitcoin.org like a typical open source project forum and leave anything outside of the focus to other sites. bitcoin.org can set up a wiki page where any site running a bitcoin forum can list themselves. An excellent suggestion. I agree but think that for other sites to thrive bitcoin.org should, as suggested eventually try to limit its scope to core Bitcoin functionality and architecture issues. An excellent point as well regarding the social engineering and single point failure vulnerabilities inherent in the current format. You know there's winners abound when the very idea that people should be civil on a forum leads to trolling in the very thread it is brought up in. The internet is ruined forever. ::) |