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Hey people!

I've got a question for you all:
Why is dice so popular in btc world?

I mean, gambling is not specific to btc, lots of people gamble in fiat no problem with that. But (at least in Europe) dice gamble is something that barely exists! Roulette yes, poker yes, blackjack yes! But dice? Never saw any xD

It's a bit special, maybe dice is a lot more common in the USA or in Russia/China but I find it really specific to bitcoin! And I wonder why dice sites are such a huge trend in the btc gambling world!

Any idea?

Part of btc gambling history and easiest to make provably fair which is the biggest reason to gamble at fair dice instead of fiat casino the latter are not fair and have huge house edges.  

Plus most bitcoin holders are math geeks and dice is pure math so it sort of fell into place.

Because it's so simple, and most important - fast.

Made a table of different dice websites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit#gid=0)

Oh.... It's true? No other kind of gambling installed the provably fair feature?
I suppose it can be declined on anything no? Cause it's always a question of "is the site really giving random results or not" so provably fair is just here to check the randomness of the result!

But true for the math part, I had lots of fun on my first betting games on dice xD

I also never came across dice sites until coming into the bitcoin world, I have had a go and it is fast and quite dangerous if you get carried away, I can definitely see the attraction.

Yes of course but then why isn't there any kind of dice gambling in the real world?  :)

Maybe dices are common in Las Vegas? xD

But I never saw any kind of dice gambling unless it was online and playing with btc! The funny thing is that even with fiat it's not common at all online, it's all in btc  :D

I think dice is easy, fast and provably fair to play that's why it's famous. you can win huge amount of money within minutes.

Dice is very easy game more people like to play this because it is more easy to understand and can test it from faucet and that can be the main reason which make it popular in btc world.

That don't guarantee that all dice website are really probably fair. Even when they said they are probably fair there are some nasty scripts around the Internet.

Low house edge and provably fair system is attractive for many people and most important there is no previous knowledge require to place bet there, it is more to play with chance to make fortune like 1, 2, 3 .....

Because initially that's what dices are used for.If you have studied probability,you would see a lot of problems will be based on dice even though there are other options available . Its simply because its easier to understand the concept and the underlying philosophy.Moreover back in the day,the gambling games were used to be played on the actual dices,like two dices in the box and you're suppose to be on any two numbers which would be shown on the top.This also seems completely random and fair.

Well for i think its easy to play and you can make profit fast but it turn to lose if you are greedy.
Dice is most popular than the others because many website had this game thats why this game is popular..

It's a simple game not like Poker where you have to learn some pretty complex moves/hands.

It's quick & easy to play, I guess that's why it's so popular.

yeah it's a big part of the bitcoin culture, gambling is. And as other people have explained it's very fast, and I think anonymity is a big part is well.

This doesn't explain much. Slots is easy to play and more enjoyable because of the graphics but it's not as popular in the bitcoin world as dice.

It's also perfect due to the low house edge.
And cool spreadsheet, I'm going to copy that for personal use if you don't mind :)

Bitcoin and gambling on dice seem to go hand in hand, I think its very popular because of how quickly it can be done. Not so sure why it hasn't taken off in fiat sites. Maybe the low house edge is a deterrent? Maybe the fiat casino owners don't see much demand for such a simple game. Hard telling. For some reason I don't think I would play dice for fiat.

That is true. Not all dice sites are probably fair and it should be checked before playing dice. It is quite difficult to check the game fairness for for non technical guys. But this game is very easy to play that's why it attracts many people to try this game.

Because dice probably the simplest form of gambling which is suitable for bitcoin nature in the first place :P
All you gotta do is put the bet amount and pick hi or low
And that's it :P

actually i have no idea why dice game so popular in bitcoin gambling site but might be because this game is very easy to play and all you have to do during play dice just play and roll

I think it was the first game which was made provably fair and because of that it made it famous amongst BTC gamblers. When people lose on a game which is not provably fair they think they were cheated but when they can verify the results, it gives them sense of fairness.

I agree that dice was the first gambling game for bitcoins to be made popular, but I don't think that being provably fair is the main reason, as now if you want to run a successful casino, your games must be provably fair. Blackjack is provably fair, and so are many other games.

I personally prefer other games than dice, but I can see why a lot of people like it; it's easy to play, and it's suspenseful.

Dice is popular because it is easy to play and don't need much knowledge. You just roll a dice, pick over or under a value and then hope for your prediction to be true. It is unlike blackjack or poker where you need some knowledge of the game to reduce the house edge.

IMO because the dice are very easy to multiply the money only with a time of one second is one click :D

for me, part of it is because it is the first gambling game that i found online in witch i could use bitcoin. also it is nice that i can use even a very tiny amount as small as 1 satoshi for my bets because it can make my bankroll that much bigger.

additionally one of the major reasons for me liking dice games is the fact that it is easy to play it. dice does not need any experience, thinking, planning, skill,... it is just dumb luck for rolling a dice and see what the result is.

I guess because the game was very compatible with bitcoin, as we know the game of dice has some kind of chip for at stake, it has similarities with bitcoin that looks very similar to the chip, so that's why many dice games that lead and use bitcoin, and bitcoin was also created to gambling games

Maybe it's all a big promotion bubble.
Not sure how long it's gonna last.

It is very easy.
You can play mostly every second again.
You can double your price if you have luch in 1 second.
I often play dice and mostly i win more than i loose.

It is not only easy to multiply/double your money, but also easy to lose all your money in single click :)
IMO, why dice hype is because it is the simplest game to build and it is the most popular game in this bitcoin gambling industry.

I hear you... People actually believe that they can win something...  I don't really understand what is it that people see in dice games...

but people do not think about losing in a single click. they just think the dice is very easy to double the money. therefore the dice have tremendous hype.

Dice is simple game and fast, therefore people like it. Plus in some sites you can chat with other players, getting new gambling ideas etc.

because it's simple, fast, no need skill, few rules and you can choose the payout that you want

Because many people find that a lot. They can also win a lot of money.
I find poker more fun honestly but that's my opinion.

I think that dice is so popular because of its simplicity. It's pure luck nothing else: If you win it means you are lucky today, if you lose means you've got bad luck, that's all. No one to blame for your losses. I personally like dice btw much more than any other game.

Maybe because you can earn and lost easily on dice, and you no need wait. Like sportsbook, all sports match need to wait the match finish to grade their bet. and dice no need to wait.

Dice easiest form of betting and no experience or skill required to get started there so easy to roll a dice, low house is also make it more attractive for high rollers and high payout like 9900x which is really interesting.

i don't understand why, generally, i don't play more to dice, i like more the casinò with roulette, black jack, poker and sport betting (all in bitcoin). Yes dice can is fast, provably fair, but i like more follow a game (like blackjack o poker) and not see only a  thousand od rolled number  ;D

I think that it come from the probably fair thing. Also, this one of the easiest script to write compared to something as complex as roulette or blackjack.

Couple of reasons I can see that Dice is so popular:
1. Simplicity of the game, easy to play, fast paced game with immediate results.
2. Easy to establish provably fair system.
3. PrimeDice was one of the first good, well established, reputable and trustworthy gambling platform for BTC.

I think it's because it's fast to get into. You don't need to think much of it, you just bet one or the other.
If you're too lazy to keep on clicking, most gambling sites got the auto function to keep on rolling.

In fact, there are provably fair blackjack, roulette, slot, lottery etc. But exactly as other mentioned, dice gets popular because it is by far the simplest and fastest game and it has a very low house edge.

I often wonder how would I beat dice or even take profits from it? Tried it a couple of times and I always end up losing and not taking the hype of it. The only appealing gambling games for me are blackjack, roulette and poker, among others. I just don't get that similar hype of what you guys are talking about here. :/

I think dice is the first game in bitcoin world thats why dice game are popular and also its to gain profit and so fast to lose..

Dice is the easiest games to play for most dimers and with the 98% odds one can bet, it becomes easier to win games and hence it is very popular and one of the best played games online and offline as well people prefer dice games.

Easiest to play don't mean easiest to make any profit. Most of time they only take your money/BTC.

Oh, I think I answered my own question!

Of course dice site is well known on the internet because of all what you said, but it's not known in real life because... It can't!

It just can't! On the internet you can make a program with multiple probabilities, but a dice game in real life would have nothing comparable to an onine dice game!

Last thing to understand is why dice game online are not much more popular with fiat...

There isnt any "easy" gambling site to play even sportsbet because every gamblingsite are designed to win, they got house edge to make sure that the house will win so in average most people will lose and only some amount of people that will win , there will be always more loser in other words.

I agree on the part, it is a easiest game to play and no need to do any complicated analysis before start playing. But I don't agree, it is a easiest game to win because of house edge and as per me most of the time house will end up wining money in dice game, if we play continuously.

That's true as in the real world people prefer casino or poker. Rarely dice games are played but in the case with online gambling websites, people prefer dice games due to the high probability of betting. Also, the highest number of gamblers prefer only dice as it's very popular.

Because dice is nice and a simple gambling game, and the best thing is it's based on luck. But however the gambling site can make it more profitable for them by adding some rules in the game like max bet and roll under/over %49.

Yes, dice game is very easy to play and players no need learn anything before gambling. So many people are playing these easy games. Dice game is only good for playing for fun because most of the time houses will win money due to house edge. Pure luck is needed to win money from dice games.

I think there is also the "false idea" of automated bet through a bot ... with other type of bet you can get easy a negative balance...
For what I remember satoshi dice was one of the most dice site, selled by the owners for x million of dollars.
no way this give a strong help to all btc environment, I ear about btc for this news!

i tried many dices gambling sites so all of them are the same if you play with a small amount coin up to 300 (example doge) in this case there is a possibility to win or lose .
But if you play with a big amount 1000-10000 doges , only one possibility you are going to loose.
No luck only programmed system.
thanks

for example dice (primedice) was the first bitcoin related casino that i have found on internet, never knows about dice before

dice is a universal game, for example sports betting which is so popular these days is not for everybody or every country if you don't watch them.
or the card games (poker,...) are not played all over the world.
but dice can be played by anybody, because it is just simple as rolling a normal dice and see which side stops for you.

i think it is so popular in the bitcoin world because the game is very easy to play and requires no knowledge at all, it allows you to make fast bets and get the outcome fast also its house edge is really small

Like others I also think its easy to play, u can play dices while u are doing something else. But I quit dices week ago, no more for me. I lost a lot, I had a feeling it easy and that I will win big but fucking dices sold me every time. No more!

dice games are the easiest to create and there is a lot of free dice scripts out there so there are a lot of dice sites.

and people like dice mainly because it is an easy game to play. you can master dice so quickly and easily. also the winning amounts are limitless because of the way multiplier works (well limited by site's maax bet)

When I want to play a skill-based game, I could make a sports bet or perhaps play poker. But if I want to play a luck only game, dice is the best option for me as I haven't found another luck only game with a house edge lower than 0.5% yet.

From what I know Black Jack usually offers you even lower House Edge than Dice. Also Video Poker tends to has very, very low House Edge - about 0.4%-0.5%

hope u can successfully and completely quit dice, or even gamble. losing a lot is the last edge before too late to quit, so do it now.

The house edge of blackjack depends on the rules, which are different from sites to sites. On crypto-games.net, they said the house edge is 1.253%. I have also tried to check the house edge of a few other BJ sites using the calculator on http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/, and I don't seem to find one with a <0.5% house edge.

Everyone thinks Dice obviously very nice. And in my opinion, I think that really fun to do.
But I think the most enjoyable poker. But I think I once again have to try other games.

Quitting is not so easy for users who have been addicted to these games. Even if they want to stop, they keep coming back to get back their losses which is even worse. Dice is one such game that even I'm addicted to as it has made
me win many times but my losses have been more than my profit and hence I quit. Currently I'm only betting on sports.

It is just simple game, lower than 50 or higher etc :D But it is true there is no feeling of controll in it. Thats why more and more people preffer gambling like secondstrade, bustabit, perhaps games of blackjack etc.

True there is no real knowledge required. Just place a bet and check the outcome.
There is no way you can expect a good profit from this.

I feel that dice is big because it is easy to play, and easy to program.

Anything involving more than a couple of variables requires more time into programming and testing.

Another reason is because dice is simple, fast and addicting. The speed and simplicity adds to how addicting it is. You won't realize you run out of funds in other games because many are slower, card games in general take time to process whereas dice is bet, click, boom.

I think it so fast and furious for gambling.. independ on you have strategy or not :)... make a big money or lose all your money on one click => housing very like this.

it is easy to play and easy to setup. so even people who like to own one casino is able to do by purchasing.

as for players, it is brainless, you dont have to think too much. and it also auto bet itself so u can chill one corner and watch it play itself.

There is no strategy in dice; it's a game purely based off luck. Whether you have strategy or not, you still may lose.

there is no good strategy in dice but there are strategies that you can use in order to play better and your win won't be a total bullshit. even the popular method of martingale can be considered a strategy (not a good one) but it is still a strategy and In my opinion is better than playing just randomly.

yah a strategy is just to reduce ur risk and reduce the house edge. however, no matter how the calculation is, the casino always will have an edge over you and that is why it is very hard to profit well from it.

The house edge is to ensure that the casino is in the green in the long run. There have been many math professional that has done tons of calculation to prove that no method remove the house advantage and that is why those dice website is still surviving until now.

Yeah it is true but for fast roll. That is depends on their site too, not all site have this kind of faster bet though. What I know there is only a couple of fast roll site. But I dont think that using fast roll will really help you to get profit though. But know I find out the instant roll on dice so I moved to their site to try and played

Probably because some people want to get rich quick and find this as an alternativr to do it..(try it)

it is in the human nature to seek the easiest way of reaching his goals. one of them is to get rich quickly over night. that is why we always see a lot of scams like ponzis which promise a quick way of getting rich. so gamblers are seeking this dream by spending a lot of money and never reaching it.

he didn't say anything about addiction, only good signs for success in quiting dice in coming. just push him some more, it will happen.
u can quit, so is other ppl.

Dice sites are very popular because it's like the simplest and fastest way to gamble with bitcoins you don't have to have some knowledge about sports or learn the rules of the games like black jack you just load your wallet and start rolling instantly.

To me it sounds dice sites need more turnover so they hire some posters to bring more attention to dice.
But also to sport ets. Most of the new topics are around sports betting and dice.

i think this widespread dice hype is the result of massive advertisement that the dice websites do everyday. or at least most of the hype is because of that. and new people who are looking for a place to gamble run into these adverisements and so stick to dice and enjoy it.

I don't think dice sites need to hire more posters; they need a way to make their dice site unique. There are tons of dice sites out there, why should users play at a certain dice site? You need to come up with a good concept; then you can hire posters to attract users to your site.

i think it is the more used so that is why there are so many dice site and that make the game populaire ;)

Everyone likes dice of course fun to do.
You can also play long and with a lot of people so it is great fun.
But I myself also play poker really feel a lot of fun.

As far as I know there is not many signature campaigns which advertise purely Dice sites - at this point I thing there is maybe 1(?) Dice sig campaign.
There are couple campaigns of full fledged casinos which offers multitude of gambling experience - but not Dice exclusively.

Dice games are easy to make provably fair, and it's very convenient as you can choose exactly what odds you're playing against. :)

the 1st half maybe right, but can't explain the 2nd half. why are ppl so stick to dice? why enjoy it? run into it but why not meh it and leave?

Yes you got the point. Other than these, I love dice gambling for making it automated gambling. Once I set up a good strategies then I just see dice gambling as easy money growing method.

Dice most loved game and everyone play this because it is easy, it is fun and i think chat is very attractive where we share our opinion, strategies about some good and bad experience that is why is, it is mot popular game around the globe.

Most who are also a lot of fun to play and gamble. You can therefore win great prizes with. But I find myself in my opinion I think poker and sports betting the most.
I find it always so exciting and unpredictable.

i agree, but i knew about dice only after i discovered bitcoin, i don't know of gambling sites that had dice to play whit fiat

because it's the best type of gambling, very fast, and very adrenalinic

The number of sites doesn't makes anything popular or interesting.No Casino game is even close to the ease and comfort ability of dice.People need money within hours and with shortcuts but without hard work,which is dice.

I think that dice games are so popular bc they really capture the essence of gambling: choose your bet size and the risk you want to take and roll. Take anything away from that and there's nothing left :)

I've noticed that some people seem to think that only dice games can be made provably fair. That's not the case, any game can be made provably fair. For example on my site FastBets.io (https://fastbets.io) we've got six different kinds of games (slot, dice, and others), all of which are provably fair.

True, there aren't many that advertise purely dice sites, but the casinos being advertised offer dice; there's no difference playing dice at a site that offers only dice as opposed to a casino that offers dice.

My point was that a signature campaign alone won't make your dice site successful; you need a unique concept.

it is better for the gambling website owners to create a casino instead of a only one game (dice) site. because they will get more customers this way. although it becomes harder to manage all of them and program the games and maintain them, but having multiple games will give us the ability to choose whichever game from one place and with one bankroll easily without the need to switch to another site for a different game.

dice gambling is pretty easy, luck based, no need to think too much, just pure luck, so why it shouldn't be so popular

Dice hype because you can become rich in a matter of minutes or hours.

But keep in mind 2 things
99% of the times you lose
1% of the times you win.

Now if you are good at math, you know that the highest probability to happen is 99% rather than 1%.

So if you are smart invest in a dice site bankroll, one of the popular and proven one, this way you will share some % of the 1% house profit in the long run. Of course your investment maybe hit by a big win so keep that in mind too.

So most of time it's smart to invest in an Dice site in your opinion. What are the most known Dice site if you want to try to do an investment.

those characteristics are not attractive for everyone. and gamblers who don't find it attractive never understand and keep questioning it.

actual dice is not only famous in the world bitcoin. people who like to play dice was the one that made him famous, they use bitcoin as money, and it makes them happy and famous

i don't get it. who is "him"? what is he famous for? btc, money, gamble, which makes ppl happy and famous? i think none of them does, well, atleast not for many ppl.

he might be talking about playing with six sided physical dice, which some people might like and playing it makes them happy because they like it

he must have used google translate to say that :D

Its more easier to play you only need a game of chance than other games like blackjack, poker,baccart etc that you need to use some skills in order to play/win.

yeah because dice doesn't required skills to play. just choose high or low. simple but made a great sensation

Yes, it is very easy for any one to play without any knowledge, so it become so popular but also we should remember we can't make money from this game in long term because it needs pure luck to win any thing. So just play for fun for some time.

It is kind of funny that dice games are so popular in bitcoin gambling.  My first time gambling bitcoin was on Satoshidice, and I've tried a few others since, but I would have never bet on a dice game had I not gotten into bitcoin.  I guess I only play them because they are easy, you can pick your odds, and you get your result instantly.  It's definitely not the most interesting type of game, but I guess instant gratification takes the win.

well, dice game is easy to learn and easy to play. you dont even have to manually play cause most of the site already have auto bet too. so you can just sit and relax at one area where you see the dice play itself. it is quite fun too to see the btc go up and down.

it can be true with unreal money, but btc is real money, so just sit and see the dice itself is not relaxable, see the btc go down is not fun, at all.

are you not see.
almost everyone is playing dice. and almost all sites offer the game of dice? its prove

I think it's because dice can make you earning fast bitcoins and also there are people who show their winning on dice, so that's make people want more gambling on dice.

LoL The only suggestion if you think the dice have more income faster. it all depends on luck

he is talking about the big wins that were posted here on this gambling section.

and he is not wrong either, when it comes to dice there is the possibility of winning big. for example if you start with 0.01BTC in dice and set the multiplier to a big number then if you are lucky enough you can win the big prize and cash out your prize.

You can do it with real money too or bitcoin. You just need to adjust your balance and your basebet well so you can sit and relax enjoying your profit but make sure you have really enough balance, dont ever expect to get more if you have low balance the possibility is too low to get that. If you mean btc go up and down is trading I think it is quite a gambling game too with more secure of income

Because dice is simple and you can bot with it with strategies, unlike other casino games like slots, blackjack, roulette etc. I guess that's why it's so popular online with BTC.

I don't think just because we can make a bots for this game become so popular but this game is so simple to play and no need any prior experience to start the game so many people will try to test there luck in this game. Some how this game attracts many people and that's why today we have so many dice gambling sites.

Lol I think all gambling give such a promise, promise to get bitcoin quickly, but the reality is not like that. much loss

Yes even this thread. It's just speculation. There is no dice hype just some threads about dice and suddenly there is a hype.
Threads made by gamling sites or supporters of them are not creating any hype.

I keep coming back to play Dice it's somethimes frustrating but also nice to play. You can't win all the time and need to be focused if you don't wanna lose all.

Dice is one of those games that can make money. very few ways to make money by playing, so this game is sure to be a sensation because it can make money

probably because of the simplicity and non-complex feature of dice made it popular, even my grandpa can play it with ease.  8)

From time to time some people come here showcasing some insane dice gains and I think that is what is making a lot of people thinking that becoming rich by playing dice is easy, but it's as if someone that wins the lottery uploads a ticket of the winning number... it is what it is.

I don't think this is the reason, as there are many other games where you can make money, such as plinko, bustabit, poker, sportsbetting, etc. Dice might be the simplest way to play and make money, but it's not the only way.

Also, dice isn't a surefire way to make money as there is a house edge, so keep that in mind.

agree about this reason. than any other game. dice easier without any expertise and simple also

You are not really betting on dice, its more like betting in a number range. I bet 1 to 10 out of a hundred or 1 to 75 out of hundred. Its easy to understand, easier to bet and a lot easier to make multiple bets in a small amount of time. Dice bots even make it more interesting. Dice sites are here to stay, but it has become a niche to bitcoin.

Exactly and very true. I myself play dice games because I know I am playing a fair ( provably fair ) game and more than that, I would get quick results and can play martingale or modified my own strategies. While minesweeper is good, I love dice over it.

Definitely quick result is the biggest reason why many people are loving dice gambling. I am also on of the biggest fan of dice. Other than quick result I prefer ghost playing of dicing.

Yes, that is true. Now a days people don't have time to learn new things but every one wants every things fast and quick. Because of this game simplicity to understand, it has become so popular. Many people likes it even though they know that, at the end they will lose money on this game.

because it's so easy to play them, it's 50%/50% so you win or you lose, no need to think alot where to bet, and it's very fast also, so that's why everyone likes them

I am not sure there is a dice hype? Having some topics about it doesn't make it a hype.
Sure dice is easy and fun to play, but it is gambling and nothing more.

P.S. It's less then 50/50 ;)

Well people very like it, because it is very very easy to play, you don't need to think at all, you just need luck and money to bet

i thought i was the only one who didn't see any dice hype. good to see there are others that feel the same way.

if there is a hype especially these days (by looking at the gambling section) it is sports betting hype with all the prediction, tips threads...

i also noticed that everyone likes dices and that they're everywhere, in sport bets site and they even have their own sites, i think because it's very easy and fast gambling way

Your own gambling website isn't that easy to create. That is advanced scripting that not all people can do.

There is more a 'sports' hype then. Dice. Just look at the last few weeks.
There are so many sports related topics here, it almost seems this section is about sports and not about gambling.

That is a nice question. I sometimes make that question myself and I really don't understand. Maybe it was easy to develop and it proliferated in the btc word, and now it just stayed there. I'm not sure, but I do believe that the gambling with BTC started with dice, and only after that it started moving to typical casino games, and now poker and sports betting.