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Title: Trading Guide?
Post by: RoughLyfe on February 04, 2016, 01:28:05 AM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: TReano on February 04, 2016, 02:22:47 AM
do you trade bitcoin? Also do you trade on a daily base or

you might take a look at TradingView to get some ideas from other peoples charts.

Also watch some basic trading video (they are mostly for Forex) for beginners. But it also fits for Bitcoin trading or any other trading.


I very small information here:
http://btc-broker.weebly.com/learning-to-trade.html


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: RoughLyfe on February 04, 2016, 02:25:12 AM
do you trade bitcoin?

you might take a look at TradingView to get some ideas from other peoples charts.

Also watch some basic trading video (they are mostly for Forex) for beginners.


I very small information here:
http://btc-broker.weebly.com/learning-to-trade.html
Thanks for your input.I do trade bitcoin


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: TReano on February 04, 2016, 03:15:34 AM
do you trade bitcoin?

you might take a look at TradingView to get some ideas from other peoples charts.

Also watch some basic trading video (they are mostly for Forex) for beginners.


I very small information here:
http://btc-broker.weebly.com/learning-to-trade.html
Thanks for your input.I do trade bitcoin


Also there is not really a guide for trading. It's not like if you do this you will make money.

look at the video section there are some basics you need to learn as a beginner but the rest is all experience in the end. Otherwise trading wouldn't make sense because everybody would make money.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: leonArdo@margin on February 04, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
If you want to practice some different strategies then you could try leonArdo's free paper trading demo. It's available for Win, OS X and Mac and provides a consistent interface for BTC-e, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Poloniex and OKCoin.

You can also test out our in-built algo trading strategies.

Download a copy here if you are interested: www.marginsoftware.de (http://www.marginsoftware.de) Just click through to Products.

You can also check out out main thread on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506317.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506317.0)


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: RoughLyfe on February 04, 2016, 02:50:16 PM
If you want to practice some different strategies then you could try leonArdo's free paper trading demo. It's available for Win, OS X and Mac and provides a consistent interface for BTC-e, Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Poloniex and OKCoin.

You can also test out our in-built algo trading strategies.

Download a copy here if you are interested: www.marginsoftware.de (http://www.marginsoftware.de) Just click through to Products.

You can also check out out main thread on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506317.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506317.0)
Thanks,Ill try that out right now!


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: pooya87 on February 04, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
try to read everybody's speculation about bitcoin price but do not make any decision with your emotions (like panic buy or sell) in time you will learn to differentiate between FUD and real speculation.

worth checking out: https://www.tradingview.com/s/bitcoin


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 04, 2016, 03:11:41 PM
Any actual guides available on this site to read on a slow day? Have yet to figure out how to search properly on here and hopefully can be pointed in the right direction.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: enhu on February 04, 2016, 03:24:02 PM

What I understood in coins trading is that they buy cheaper altcoins to which they see a potential base on market caps and volume. They then trade it on exchange sites after seeing the value had somehow grow. Like me, this kind of set up is going to bore me to death as I have to wait unlike trading on forex that one can profit or lose in minutes, hours or in a day.

What I see it a lot harder to trade BTC/USD since technical chart analysis don't apply much compare to those fiat as its inflation has patterns base on fibonacci.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: pooya87 on February 04, 2016, 03:29:51 PM

What I understood in coins trading is that they buy cheaper altcoins to which they see a potential base on market caps and volume. They then trade it on exchange sites after seeing the value had somehow grow. Like me, this kind of set up is going to bore me to death as I have to wait unlike trading on forex that one can profit or lose in minutes, hours or in a day.

What I see it a lot harder to trade BTC/USD since technical chart analysis don't apply much compare to those fiat as its inflation has patterns base on fibonacci.

when it comes to trading cryptocurrencies if you know anything about trading on forex, then a very small percentage of that is going to be needed in trading BTC/USD

and if you decide to trade altcoin/BTC then almost none of that information is going to do you any good since altcoin market is small and driven by different forces.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: coine_ on February 04, 2016, 05:57:11 PM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

I would suggest that you learn and understand how to use technical indicators. Check out the video on MACD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQz8SWXcHLI


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: erikalui on February 04, 2016, 06:09:35 PM
There's no trading guide that can help you to improve your earnings as everyone has their own strategy. Bit-x and others do charge fees for your trades but you need to have an investment of over 0.2-0.3 BTC to earn a good profit. Eg: Yesterday the price of bTC was $371 and today the price is $388 and hence if you had a buy trade of 0.25 BTC yesterday ($92.75) and today you would sell the same at $97 which makes you earn a profit of atleast 4.5 which isn't that great but it's good for the start.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: enhu on February 05, 2016, 05:23:48 AM
There's no trading guide that can help you to improve your earnings as everyone has their own strategy. Bit-x and others do charge fees for your trades but you need to have an investment of over 0.2-0.3 BTC to earn a good profit. Eg: Yesterday the price of bTC was $371 and today the price is $388 and hence if you had a buy trade of 0.25 BTC yesterday ($92.75) and today you would sell the same at $97 which makes you earn a profit of atleast 4.5 which isn't that great but it's good for the start.

of course there is a guide. i got a vouch copy from an ebook seller last month, the pdf don't really explain much but it contains basic of how to do it from which altcoin to buy and which exchange to use. it even tells about how to profit by arbitrage. its just very basic thing but yes its help[ful for a newbie like me when it comes to crypto trading. you may wanna find it in the digital goods section in the market place.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: RariBest on February 05, 2016, 09:28:48 AM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

there isn't a step by step guide to trade, especially whit bitcoin also technical analysis don't work properly, the advice is to know some psicology behind the market moves


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: erikalui on February 05, 2016, 11:27:19 AM
There's no trading guide that can help you to improve your earnings as everyone has their own strategy. Bit-x and others do charge fees for your trades but you need to have an investment of over 0.2-0.3 BTC to earn a good profit. Eg: Yesterday the price of bTC was $371 and today the price is $388 and hence if you had a buy trade of 0.25 BTC yesterday ($92.75) and today you would sell the same at $97 which makes you earn a profit of atleast 4.5 which isn't that great but it's good for the start.

of course there is a guide. i got a vouch copy from an ebook seller last month, the pdf don't really explain much but it contains basic of how to do it from which altcoin to buy and which exchange to use. it even tells about how to profit by arbitrage. its just very basic thing but yes its help[ful for a newbie like me when it comes to crypto trading. you may wanna find it in the digital goods section in the market place.

It may be written by users of the forum then right?

Usually such tips are given on websites itself (www.coindesk.com/information/sell-bitcoin/, www.forexnews.com/bitcoin-trading/
)

However, OP already must have knowledge of these basics but strategy based guides are needed to earn profits and not just trading guides.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Patatas on February 05, 2016, 11:28:09 AM
You need to be more specific on what type of trading you would like to have a tutorial about.If you still have no idea how to trade or what type of niche you should be involved in.You need to google first about the exchanges and how the system works.I think not having an idea with blatant intentions of making profits won't land you anywhere .Be specific,choose a system then master it.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: BitTyro on February 05, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
I've been into trading altcoins for quite some time now but I cant say I follow certain guide. I just buy some coins base on trading volume and set a sell order for how much profit I want to take. Of course that should be realistic price though to hit that sell order. Maybe about 5 to 10 percent. I always makes profit by doing such but if ever a certain coin takes a drop in its price, I just hold it and wait for a rebound. I lost some by doing this but hey, trading is also a gamble, ayt?


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: maokoto on February 05, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
I think one of the best guides is just knowing the motto "buy low and sell high" and then having a good amount of patience to not buy sell out of emotion. Learning to master that is more valuable than many trading guides. However, I would also be interested in one of that if someone supplies it.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: BruceLee007 on February 06, 2016, 01:10:44 PM
Maybe somoene have some trading guide,guys I really need help, I will help you with other some questions.I am good guy :)


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Master_dandosha on February 06, 2016, 01:57:26 PM
Maybe somoene have some trading guide,guys I really need help, I will help you with other some questions.I am good guy :)
I think there in no real guide for trading , but i will advice you to put your order a little lower (never affected by trader manipulation) or a little higher in case you want to buy\sell then be strong with a good amount of patience .
Very important rules you have to know first what you are going to buy .
thanks


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: talkbitcoin on February 06, 2016, 03:30:38 PM
this is one of those things that you have to learn on the job, there is no prior teaching/guide/walkthrough that can help you trade well and earn money this way.
there are some general terminologies and some analysis but their usefulness in this market is not good.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: rally on February 06, 2016, 03:34:39 PM
You have to look good out for altcoins with a good offers/sells that have on a day. I should not take an altcoin for example that only makes a few transfers on a day. That is a bit to risky. That's what i find. You can win very much, but also loose very much in a short time with such coins.
It is a little bit looking out for at what the lowest price was the last days and trying to buy some at that price.
Mostly have i had the luck that some time later they went again to a higher price.
ANyway, it stays always a risk and can go down very fast.
Never start with to big amounts. Try in the beginning with small amounts and try to learn and do some experience this way.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Laosai on February 06, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
A trading guide?

They're EVERYWHERE on the web. Just type trading guide on google.

The problem is not the theory. The problem is that nobody really understands trading.

As long as it works we're all here "yeah I expected that move, that's because of blah blah blah".

But sooner or later an unexpected event occures and BOOM huge loss or huge profit.
And no guide can teach you that ;)


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 06, 2016, 04:31:16 PM
A trading guide?

They're EVERYWHERE on the web. Just type trading guide on google.

The problem is not the theory. The problem is that nobody really understands trading.

As long as it works we're all here "yeah I expected that move, that's because of blah blah blah".

But sooner or later an unexpected event occures and BOOM huge loss or huge profit.
And no guide can teach you that ;)

Learning how to read the charts and candles can for sure help you and keep you from flipping a coin. Do not thinl people are looking for a guide to profit but how to guide in how to go about it.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bitmarket.net on February 08, 2016, 11:31:14 PM
Hi,

maybe this will help:

Dealing with losses
A trader needs the self-discipline to stick to his plan and not be overtaken by the emotions of greed and fear.
When the trader expects the market to behave certain way, enters the trade and the market doesn’t perform as expected, the only correct course of action is the exit the trade.
Having to take losses is an integral part of trading – what matters is taking them early and not letting them to run away.
The trader cannot be stubborn or too proud – being right can never be more important to him than being profitable. Being a trader means being honest with oneself and being able to admit to being wrong.
Unlike in most of “ordinary” professions, in trading, there usually is not much grey area between being wrong and being right and little opportunity to blame the bad decisions on external factors – even though it’s tempting to look for excuses, the trader should always take full responsibility for all his decisions.
The trader has to remember that the market is always right, even if it’s behaving irrationally from his point of view – “markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent”.
Staying in a losing position, apart from everything else, carries an opportunity cost – instead of hanging on to a bad trade, the trader could possibly use his skills and capital to generate profits from another trade.
The trader needs to learn to recognize the emotions he feels when he incurs the losses: they may range from self-pity to anger. When the trader is experiencing these emotions, his critical thinking is usually impaired and he might be not best placed to enter into another trade, even though this is often what his emotions are telling him to do (“revenge trading”). That is when taking a break usually is helpful and beneficial to the further performance of the trader.
No person is ever going to be able to completely eliminate emotions – one should be aware of them and learn to use them to his advantage.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bitmarket.net on February 08, 2016, 11:35:12 PM
Other than that, here I some questions you should answer yourself:

- what is your strategy ?
- what is your time horizon ?
- how much risk are you prepared to accept ?

My advice for the beginners is to start by watching the markets, do some "paper-trades", see what works and what doesn't and develop a trading plan.

Keep a diary of your trades, write down why you made each trade and over time you should see some patterns.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bitart on February 09, 2016, 07:55:54 PM
Is there a trading site that has a so called demo account? (Like most of the forex sites) Maybe it can be useful to learn in the beginning and after it can be done on a live account as well.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: BitTyro on February 12, 2016, 01:38:40 AM
Is there a trading site that has a so called demo account? (Like most of the forex sites) Maybe it can be useful to learn in the beginning and after it can be done on a live account as well.

You can try avatrade.com
They offer demo account with free $100k to polish your skill. Take note tho that I have never tried it before so there is no way I can vouch for it.
Or, you can try signing up on yobit, after 7 days, you can collect free coins, just like collecting sat on faucets minus the captcha, and from there you can start trading the altcoins you have collected. This will take some time as you need to collect an amount equivalent to about 10k sat  to be able to trade tho.
Alternatively, you can just deposit a small amount to any exchange or trading site you are most comfortable to use with and start trading right away with a meager amount while polishing your trading skill. You can move it up a notch higher when you have found your confidence.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bitmarket.net on February 12, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
I would say that the 1st thing you need to master is the risk management - knowing how to limit your downside.

You should deicde before entering the trade what you expect the market will do.
If the market doesn't behave as you have expected it, get out, even if you haven't lost money yet and wait for another opportunity.

Please be aware that to be a good trader you need a lot of patience.
Trading (whether it is forex, stocks or bitcoin) is not meant to be fun. If you start making trades just because you're bored, you might as well go into the casino.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: shintosai on February 14, 2016, 06:59:58 AM
i'm also looking for a great guide to do trading with bitcoin but just like others said there's no real strategy it is just your patient and own risk and how far you want to learn and made your own strategy, i'm still collecting those beginners tut and keep on watching some online video before i proceed.. i will keep on eye with your thread and learn with you from the the advice of those members who already in trading platform..


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bit1 on February 14, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
I guess luck must also be a key factor or am I wrong?


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: BitTyro on February 15, 2016, 12:07:34 PM
I guess luck must also be a key factor or am I wrong?

One way or another that may be true  because trading bitcoin is more like a gamble than anything else. You can't exactly determine its price movement because it is not directly related to any fiat governing institutions. IMO it does react to some news sometimes but other than that its purely speculations that drive the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 15, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Is there a trading site that has a so called demo account? (Like most of the forex sites) Maybe it can be useful to learn in the beginning and after it can be done on a live account as well.

You can try avatrade.com
They offer demo account with free $100k to polish your skill. Take note tho that I have never tried it before so there is no way I can vouch for it.
Or, you can try signing up on yobit, after 7 days, you can collect free coins, just like collecting sat on faucets minus the captcha, and from there you can start trading the altcoins you have collected. This will take some time as you need to collect an amount equivalent to about 10k sat  to be able to trade tho.
Alternatively, you can just deposit a small amount to any exchange or trading site you are most comfortable to use with and start trading right away with a meager amount while polishing your trading skill. You can move it up a notch higher when you have found your confidence.

You made my day! Had no idea there was so many freecoins to collect and trade after I get the amount up. Awesome idea to get the toes wet and I had no idea that it was available.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bitmarket.net on February 16, 2016, 10:42:21 AM
I guess luck must also be a key factor or am I wrong?

Luck shouldn't have anything to do with trading, whatever it is you trade.

Trading / investing is all about probabilities and risk managmenet - you need to make sure your risk / reward is set properly, so you don't risk 5 btc just to make 1 btc and that you cut off your losses quickly.

You will always have some losses, you just have to make sure that they don't ruin your account and that you will live to fight another day.



Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: elloco4ever on February 16, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
I guess luck must also be a key factor or am I wrong?

Luck shouldn't have anything to do with trading, whatever it is you trade.

Trading / investing is all about probabilities and risk managmenet - you need to make sure your risk / reward is set properly, so you don't risk 5 btc just to make 1 btc and that you cut off your losses quickly.

You will always have some losses, you just have to make sure that they don't ruin your account and that you will live to fight another day.



yes that's true its upto us that we have to do a proper research before trading keeping the current market situation in mind. bitcoin is something which can make you much richer if you play smart if not you will be at the losing end


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: buyloewen on March 02, 2016, 01:46:35 PM
Heres a basic swing trading scenario.
http://bitcoin-daytrading.com/bitcoin-swing-trading/


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Vyshnia on March 18, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
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Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: jack1111 on March 20, 2016, 08:44:45 AM
trading needs experience , so you can't make any money in trading without experience , I think you must be patience .


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: MedaR on March 20, 2016, 11:20:31 AM
trading needs experience , so you can't make any money in trading without experience , I think you must be patience .
I have jumped in without any experience and i was burnt very good.
Then i was sat down, and learned more about how system works, and what is important and what is not. Yes it need a time to become trader, but everything comes from heart.

You must have courage and will to join the club. Once you are there you will learn eventually but don't be greedy this is worst mistake you can make. ** Learn to deal with loss without feelings!**


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 20, 2016, 12:40:36 PM
trading needs experience , so you can't make any money in trading without experience , I think you must be patience .
I have jumped in without any experience and i was burnt very good.
Then i was sat down, and learned more about how system works, and what is important and what is not. Yes it need a time to become trader, but everything comes from heart.

You must have courage and will to join the club. Once you are there you will learn eventually but don't be greedy this is worst mistake you can make. ** Learn to deal with loss without feelings!**

well, anything you want to do, you need to learn it first you can't just jump in the pool and hope to learn how to swim on the spot. you gotta start with small amounts of investment to test things out and learn how the price moves and how you can use it for your own benefit then little by little increase the amount.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: BitMaxz on March 20, 2016, 01:34:47 PM
Honestly we are the same im still making nothing.. but im still studying it with some altcoin that i can buy for 1 to 5 sat to learn how to trade..
I made some profit in trading in small amount buy 1 satoshi and wait for the price until reach 5 sat is enough for me.. Because if the altcoin still not increasing you can sell it again for 1 sat..
Some times announcement from altcoin section it helps to me to know if the coin is not a shitcoin like other..


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: jack1111 on March 20, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
I am depending on myself in trading but that doesn't mean that I am not looking for any source . opposite, I search daily about sources to learn trading


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 20, 2016, 07:02:36 PM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?
trade altcoin is just like we guess the price of altcoin,and for make our guess always right,we need information about that coins,i just suggest you to trade with carefully,and pick better altcoin than your idle coins,now is good time to trade etherum and dash,try to short term trade to fix your trade history.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: JollyTrades on March 24, 2016, 06:56:39 PM
Lots of people asking the same thing. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392069.msg14305043#msg14305043

Maybe there should be a pinned post about this.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: rekinthis on March 25, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

Buy bitcoins or any other crypto when cheap and sell only when they're expensive, this way you will make profit

also don't ever try to sell them when price falls down, don't panic and just keep them, because bitcoin price usually grows up next week or month,same with other cryptos


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: fravia on March 25, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

there is no trade guide, you just have to feel what to do when to sell or buy, only rule in good trading is to buy cheapest you can and sell them when they're expensive, if you will do this without mistakes and you won't sell them when price is small, you will get profit


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bonker on March 25, 2016, 05:00:32 PM
Hi great post. A lot of unemployed n00b chancers are looking for a guide to start trading.

It takes time and you will spend years.. yes years spunking money up the wall before you ade a  elite pro trader.

I started a thread on this topic to help so feel free to browse as tbe wisdom accumulates


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: quadriple7 on March 25, 2016, 05:12:23 PM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

if you trade bitcoin then you probably already noticed that price isn't stable, it may be very expensive in morning and very cheap in evening so you have to stay calm and don't sell after first price fall because you will lose money, that won't be good


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: luciann on March 26, 2016, 03:08:13 AM
Hi great post. A lot of unemployed n00b chancers are looking for a guide to start trading.

It takes time and you will spend years.. yes years spunking money up the wall before you ade a  elite pro trader.

I started a thread on this topic to help so feel free to browse as tbe wisdom accumulates

Its better to start now then later I guess lol.

For me, the trading scene is a lose scenario, unless they really develop something compells the price to increase when they want it.


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: luciann on March 26, 2016, 03:09:14 AM
I am depending on myself in trading but that doesn't mean that I am not looking for any source . opposite, I search daily about sources to learn trading

The problem with this route like anyone, is finding the right information takes from experience.

And verifying what others overlook etc. Best of luck though..


Title: Re: Trading Guide?
Post by: bankingbtc on March 26, 2016, 09:31:01 AM
Hi,I have been trading for the past couple of weeks and am barely making anything.Can someone provide a guide or provide advice on how to properly trade?

i never saw any good trading guide too, but i can give you some trading tips, main rule would be to buy cheap and sell  more expensive than you bought bitcoins and second rule to don't panic if pride falls down some day, because it will fall but it will also rise again