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Title: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: Bitware on January 08, 2013, 02:16:52 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/05/16372432-california-man-says-he-can-drive-in-carpool-lane-with-corporation-papers


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: myrkul on January 08, 2013, 03:07:30 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/05/16372432-california-man-says-he-can-drive-in-carpool-lane-with-corporation-papers

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When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger.

He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

Interesting. Let us know how this one turns out.


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: Bitware on January 08, 2013, 03:24:54 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/05/16372432-california-man-says-he-can-drive-in-carpool-lane-with-corporation-papers

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When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger.

He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

Interesting. Let us know how this one turns out.

Can do. I believe the cop won't show up or the case will be dismissed. Ain't no way they are going to let Santa Clara County v Southern Pacific Railroad  be challenged/revisited, and its effects on all the ruling since 1886.. especially Citizens United v Federal Election Commission in 2010.  

But wouldnt it be interesting times if it did... thats what I'm hoping as well.


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: paraipan on January 08, 2013, 03:58:31 AM
So it begins...  ::)


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: ElectricMucus on January 08, 2013, 04:02:19 AM
That way trolling was meant to be.


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: twolifeinexile on February 05, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/05/16372432-california-man-says-he-can-drive-in-carpool-lane-with-corporation-papers

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When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger.

He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

Frieman doesn't actually support this notion. For more than 10 years, Frieman says he had been trying to get pulled over to get ticketed and to take his argument to court -- to challenge a judge to determine that corporations and people are not the same. Mission accomplished in October, when he was slapped with a fine -- a minimum of $481.

Interesting. Let us know how this one turns out.

He should prevail. I hope some human rights organization could support its course.


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: bullioner on February 09, 2013, 10:36:40 PM
Given the context, the intention of the carpool rules was clearly to be about natural persons.  The court can decide to apply this interpretation to the car pool rules, without the ruling meaning that corporate persons are no longer legal persons in general.


Title: Re: A Corporation Is A Person, So Sayeth The Law ...
Post by: cbeast on February 09, 2013, 11:58:03 PM
There is nothing in the constitution that protects corporations from anything. It should have been the corporation that got the ticket for not qualifying as a natural person to ride in the carpool lane, or wearing a seatbelt for that matter. Just saying. There are a lot of way of looking at this. America just happens to choose the most corporate-friendly interpretations.