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WASHINGTON — President Obama is being pressed by some of his top national security aides to approve the use of American military power in Libya to open up another front against the Islamic State.

But Mr. Obama, wary of embarking on an intervention in another strife-torn country, has told his aides to redouble their efforts to help form a unity government in Libya at the same time the Pentagon refines its options, which include airstrikes, commando raids or advising vetted Libyan militias on the ground, as Special Operations forces are doing now in eastern Syria. The use of large numbers of American ground troops is not being considered.

The debate, which played out in a meeting Mr. Obama had with his advisers last week, has not yet been resolved, nor have the size or contours of any possible American military involvement been determined.

“The White House just has to decide,” said one senior State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. “The case has been laid out by virtually every department.”

The number of Islamic State fighters in Libya, Pentagon officials said this week, has grown to between 5,000 and 6,500 — more than double the estimate government analysts disclosed last fall. Rather than travel to Iraq or Syria, many new Islamic State recruits from across North Africa have remained in Libya, in militant strongholds along more than 150 miles of Mediterranean coastline near Surt, these officials said.

The top leadership of the Islamic State in Syria has sent half a dozen top lieutenants to Libya to help organize what Western officials consider the most dangerous of the group’s eight global affiliates. In recent months, United States and British Special Operations teams have increased clandestine reconnaissance missions in Libya to identify the militant leaders and map out their networks for possible strikes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/world/africa/isis-libya-us-special-ops.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&hp&_r=0

Good timing. Soon enough it´ll be spring which means better travel conditions across the Mediterranean and up Europe.  
They´re trying to be ahead of the curve, stimulating the refugee market.
Judging from the record of these people they could very well manage to destabilize the entire North Africa from Egypt to Morocco.

http://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/regional-geography-of-the-world-globalization-people-and-places/section_11/99599531cded2a3da6e68208b4443a69.jpg

Libya is in horrible situation now like Iraq and Syria. It's a big country now divided between tribes and with a lot of radical islamic and lot of fighters from chad and niger ..now ISIS is reuniting and relocating from Syria in Lybia and this can affect Chad, Niger,Mali as well we now what happened with militants in Timbuctu..Obama will do nothing well he ll maybe begin with airstrickes but except mess he wont solve anything

Now morons and psychopaths are desperate to get a totally certifiable nutcase, one of the chief architects of the destruction of Libya, that created this present mess - into the freakin White House. Unbelievable. Wall St., the war industry, garbage media and idiots and fruitcakes united. You can´t make this shit up.

Lybia, Iraq,Syria, all once rich, stable, strong and peaceful countries, with a lot of foreigner workers..and with no radical islam, and very friendly to foreign people...now destroyed with no reason, o yes they were not 'democracy' and no stupid laws, people lived good

Western powers have reacted too late in Iraq and Syria and allowed the strengthening of ISIS, and now is very difficult to stop them.
If we allow the strengthening of ISIS also in Libya, only a few hundred kilometers from Europe, it will become an even bigger security problem and should not be allowed.
I hope Obama will make the right decision now and protect not just Libya but all Europe. 

Reacted too late? How about not allowing lunatics to destroy these countries to begin with? Now the same shitpile with a 100% record of screwing up everything it meddles with is going to fix Libya? That it destroyed a few years ago. Get real.

Afghanistan is a total mess after suffering 14 years of these nutballs. I guess the solution is to re-invade to screw it up even more.

Obama and his cronies should stop interfering in Europe, why you say he should protect us.
Europe needs protection from the USA.

Invasion
http://anniemachon.ch/wp-content/uploads/NATO_Expansion_2-300x201.jpg

I call for regime change in Washington, how about we interfere over there.
We could bring some cookies along.

He ll destroy already destroyed country totally...But the worst is that all islam radical rats from sub sahar Africa will go there and this ll be new Syria

Oh god please no....

Could the Western world (especially the USA but sadly enough it was not the USA that started this dumbass idea to fight Lybia) let the world in peace? I mean how the fuck those wars help us fight terrorism??? We just traumatize the population giving them more reason to die in kamikaze explosion in our cities!

I mean if we really want to fight them so bad, then stop this bullshit of war to bring democracy and just burn their country! A few atomic bombs and it'll be done. Else just let them be. Cause this semi-war isn't going to help us in any way...

So called democracy make chaos in Iraq,Syria, Lybia, Egipt an Tunissia..while they were non democracy lands everything worked there and all was in order

"Application of the doctrine of power holds that highminded words can be used by the powerful, the demagogue and the hypocrite, or the merely self-deluded, to arouse passion and prejudice and sentimentality for the wrong reasons in favor of disguised real aims, thus to deceive the people and to lead them by easy stages to sacrifice their own interests in the service of power."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"Never attempt to win by force what can be won by deception."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

 

"He who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived."

Niccolo Machiavelli in his book "The Prince", 1513

Libya, Syria & Iraq are the classic examples of ignorant people being used by neocons to dispose their once stable governments on the manipulated lies of human rights, democracy & freedom of speech.

They were strong  and powerful countries, everybody lived good, a lot of foreign people worked there, no extremism, Gadafi wanted to improve irigation system so they can convert waste in useful land and start agriculture business..

So far Obama hasn't gotten anything right in Syria or Iraq other than both countries utterly destroyed.

Obama is pressed to establish another prostitute dictatorship in Syria. US tax payers will pay for this, but all benefits will go to US corruptionists. This is a very good business for corruptionists.

Syria will be divided in Sunni, Shia and Kurdish territories

Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/The%20Project%20for%20the%20New%20Middle%20East.jpg

According to Colonel Peters....

International borders are never completely just. But the degree of injustice they inflict upon those whom frontiers force together or separate makes an enormous difference — often the difference between freedom and oppression, tolerance and atrocity, the rule of law and terrorism, or even peace and war.

The most arbitrary and distorted borders in the world are in Africa and the Middle East. Drawn by self-interested Europeans (who have had sufficient trouble defining their own frontiers), Africa’s borders continue to provoke the deaths of millions of local inhabitants. But the unjust borders in the Middle East — to borrow from Churchill — generate more trouble than can be consumed locally.

While the Middle East has far more problems than dysfunctional borders alone — from cultural stagnation through scandalous inequality to deadly religious extremism — the greatest taboo in striving to understand the region’s comprehensive failure isn’t Islam, but the awful-but-sacrosanct international boundaries worshipped by our own diplomats.

Of course, no adjustment of borders, however draconian, could make every minority in the Middle East happy. In some instances, ethnic and religious groups live intermingled and have intermarried. Elsewhere, reunions based on blood or belief might not prove quite as joyous as their current proponents expect. The boundaries projected in the maps accompanying this article redress the wrongs suffered by the most significant “cheated” population groups, such as the Kurds, Baluch and Arab Shia [Muslims], but still fail to account adequately for Middle Eastern Christians, Bahais, Ismailis, Naqshbandis and many another numerically lesser minorities. And one haunting wrong can never be redressed with a reward of territory: the genocide perpetrated against the Armenians by the dying Ottoman Empire.

Yet, for all the injustices the borders re-imagined here leave unaddressed, without such major boundary revisions, we shall never see a more peaceful Middle East.

Even those who abhor the topic of altering borders would be well-served to engage in an exercise that attempts to conceive a fairer, if still imperfect, amendment of national boundaries between the Bosphorus and the Indus. Accepting that international statecraft has never developed effective tools — short of war — for readjusting faulty borders, a mental effort to grasp the Middle East’s “organic” frontiers nonetheless helps us understand the extent of the difficulties we face and will continue to face. We are dealing with colossal, man-made deformities that will not stop generating hatred and violence until they are corrected.

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

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The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East” has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East” was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome......more

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East" (2–2)

http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/details.html?rsnpid=237498

ISIS is advancing amid a low-level civil war, pitting militias and tribes against one another in alliances that defy easy description. Late last month, the country’s displaced government—which is based in the east, while a militia-backed government holds sway in Tripoli—carried out air strikes against two ships off the eastern coast, sinking one that allegedly carried jihadists and weapons. Benghazi is a war zone, where militias loyal to both governments, as well as jihadists, battle daily. Large swatches of the city have been destroyed, and hundreds of civilians have died in the fighting. There is also a regional-proxy-war element to consider. The eastern government is backed by Egypt’s military regime, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates; the Tripoli coalition is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and backed by Turkey and Qatar.

In Lybia after Gadafi is chaos. Militants from Bengazi now terror all country, and ISIS is there, Boko Haram,,madness. Don't know what Obama will do, but intervention maybe will cause more problems.

Arab nations are not suitable for democratic governments. The people give too much preference for religion, over anything else. This is true in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and all the other Arab nations. Only military dictatorships (just like the one they are having now in Egypt, under Abdel Fattah el-Sisi) can rule these nations and keep them stable.

Yes, this is the way to go. And North America also will be divided into Black America, White America, Yellow America and Red America. All American problems will be solved!

This is off-topic, but I couldn't refrain myself from posting the reply.

Black America (African Americans) and Red America (Mexicans) are not capable of existing independently, without the White America. Without the revenues and tax money from the White America (and to a certain part, the Yellow America), the Black/Red Americas will disintegrate. 

Well, Obama promised no boots on the ground in Iraq but now there´s thousands in sandals. I wonder how the offensive is going. Any updates?

Oh, sure they are capable of existing independently without White America. They existed this way for millenia. They should try again.
 

Is ISIS on the USA list of terrorist Organisations?

Why it took so long? Why not take down the financer? More troops would just die.

The United States have always existed under white majority rule. The African Americans have attempted to establish their own autonomies in the 19th century. The colonies in Liberia and Sierra Leone were examples of the failed attempt by the blacks to establish their own independent communities. You can check yourself, the current state of Sierra Leone and Liberia.

In my opinion USA already did big mistake because of too rapid withdrawal from Iraq and the late intervention in Syria.
This created the conditions for chaos from which ISIS appeared.
I hope USA will not do the same mistake with Libya.
ISIS trying to create a base for operations in Libya.
If we don't act now, very soon Libya will become another Syria, with strong ISIS, only a hundred kilometers away from Europe.
This can't be allowed, and so Obama must urgently intervene in Libya, before it is too late.

Ohh, why not more the name "Al Qaedah"?
Where is the fight on this USA creation in Afghanistan?

Iraq and Lybia are the states, where USA and NATO have destroyed legitimate governments, and now there is what?

USA needs pay bills to Iraqi, Syrian and Lybia people to destroy their governments and normal living.

The Americans never learn from their mistakes. They did the mistake in Afghanistan, by supporting the Al Qaeda Islamists against the Soviet red army. They provided the Islamists with Stinger missiles. Then once again, they repeated the mistake in Syria, by supporting the Al Nusra against the regime forces. This time, they are providing the Islamists with TOW missiles.

There was a life in North America before the United States existed. Check the history book.

I never denied the fact that Native Americans resided in North America before the arrival of the first Europeans. But do you know how they lived? Perhaps you are in need of a few history lessons. This is how they lived before the arrival of the Europeans:

http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/Mississippian-Village-at-Wickliffe.jpg

And once the whites are gone, this will be how the Mexicans and the Blacks are going to live.

And this will not be your concern, racist bitch. They will live their happy lives without you. Same way they lived before you.

And I am not concerned, you Negro. It is the least of my concern whether you live in some third world ghetto or in the jungle. Be happy there and don't come to any of the Western nations. Anyway you guys are more suited to the stone age lifestyle. Enjoy all the epidemics and other joys such as polygamy and child marriage. 

I am not negro. Your president is negro. Look out of your window, stupid racist bitch. Count colors. WHAHAHA!

The broad spears are out I see. Well, I´ve been re-reading an old book about the indians. The settlers had it easy exterminating them until they encountered the Plains Indians which had horses. That´s another ballgame entirely. They didn´t have horses until about 1550 when the Spanish brought them. They were warlike and dangerous before but the added mobility made them extremely lethal. I think they had the best light cavalry of the 19th century.

please stop racism! oh no Racism everywhere! Racism will never end. listen we need to change racism being allowed in everyday life.

Turkey and ISIS has launched a joint offensive in Northern Syria against the Kurdish (YPG) positions. Some of the regime positions were also shelled by the Turks. Rather than opening a "military front" against the ISIS, the US and its allies seems to be attacking the enemies of the ISIS. There is only one way to defeat the ISIS, be it in Syria, Libya, or Yemen. We should nuke the nations such as Turkey, which are supporting the ISIS. 

Wtf? Too early withdrawal? They shouldn't even have gone to Iraq!!!!

I don't know if you remember but they invaded Iraq because of massive destruction weapons that were not here!!!

Absolutely, they shouldn´t have invaded in the first effing place. Same with the destruction of Libya and this fiasco in Syria. Totally based on lies and fraud. These people keep repeating mistakes. It´s policy. Creating chaos, destruction and mayhem is the policy. Then there´s Ukraine and the coup they instigated there. Afghanistan, they´ve been there for almost 15 years and it has been heading fast down the drain, the taliban seize what they want there. It´s a solid pattern all over.

Turkey needs to stop attacking the Kurds, and instead negotiate peace and cooperation with the Kurds who are the only effective fighting force that has been successful on the ground against Daesh.

i guess you mean some irony here.. if not you are in a delusional life.. becuse these countires are the center of blood suckers...

Russia is getting it RIGHT in Syria, it's the UK getting it WRONG, blasts ex-army chief

BRITAIN is failing spectacularly in Syria by backing the "losing side" and should follow Russia's lead by launching airstrikes in support of the Assad regime, the former head of the army has said.

By TOM BATCHELOR
PUBLISHED: 06:00, Tue, Feb 16, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:37, Tue, Feb 16, 2016
   

General Lord Dannatt, ex-chief of general staff, said defeating Islamic State (ISIS) would only be achieved through military force.

He added airstrikes alone would not yield an end to the five-year long civil war - or finish off the depraved terror group.


The senior official, who led the British army between 2006-2009, said: "It is only going to be one with military defeat. From the air can help, but on the ground is where the decision is going to come.

"Conflicts are only resolved on the ground...it has got to be soldiers acting on the ground that bring a resolution, but within a diplomatic and political framework. That is what is missing in Syria."

Conflict in Syria
Mon, February 15, 2016
As world powers agree on a ceasefire in Syria we take a look at how the people there are coping with life after air strikes in the war against Daesh militants.

 
Lord Dannatt said the Russian's had aptly demonstrated how to counter the extremist threat in Syria by backing the side most likely to win, despite reservations about the reported barrel-bombing of civilian areas by government forces.

He told the BBC: "The Russians are coordinating with the Assad regime and are being very successful. From the air and on the ground, they are working in a coordinating fashion.

"Our problem is that we are working with the losers. Let's work with that regime.

"There may be an element of my enemy's enemy is my friend, and choosing the least worst of several very unattractive options."


Peter Ford, a former British ambassador to Syria, also blasted the UK for backing extremists disguised as moderate rebel fighters.

He argued defence chiefs were intent on removing President Bashar al-Assad despite wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya proving the difficulties in simply toppling a dictator without a comprehensive plan for what could replace them.


He described Britain's actions in the Middle East like "a dog returning to vomit".

The former diplomat said it was time to "get real" and accept that Assad had to remain in power, telling BBC2's The Big Questions: "The West has to stop propping up the moderate opposition, which is not moderate at all.

"It has to allow the Syrian army backed by the Russians to deal with ISIS. It is a local problem that should be dealt with by the local governments."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/644269/Syria-airstrikes-General-Lord-Dannatt-Britain-copy-Russia-support-Assad

U.S. Airstrikes on ISIS Camp in Libya Kill More Than 40

WASHINGTON — American warplanes struck an Islamic State camp in Libya early Friday, targeting a senior Tunisian operative linked to two major terrorist attacks in Tunisia last year. The operative, Noureddine Chouchane, was most likely killed in the strike, according to the Pentagon.

The airstrikes, on a camp outside Sabratha, about 50 miles west of Tripoli, killed at least 30 Islamic State recruits at the site, many of whom were believed to be from Tunisia, according to a Western official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss military operations.

The mayor of Sabratha, Hussain al-Dawadi, put the death toll at 41, and he said that six others had been wounded. He said the airstrikes occurred around 3:30 a.m.

The airstrikes come as the Obama administration and its allies are considering increased military action against a growing threat in Libya by the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. In November, the Americans killed Abu Nabil, also known as Wissam Najm Abd Zayd al Zubaydi, an Iraqi who led the Islamic State’s arm in Libya, in an airstrike on the town of Darnah, in eastern Libya.

Mr. Chouchane was suspected of being a major Islamic State operative who helped organize an attack on the National Bardo Museum in Tunis that killed 22 people in March and another in June that killed 38 people at a beach in the coastal resort in Sousse. Mr. Chouchane was one of five fugitives for whom the Tunisian Interior Ministry issued arrest warrants after the museum attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/world/middleeast/us-airstrike-isis-libya.html?ref=world

evil plans of some vicious forces is taking place in middle east.. they want divide middle eastern countiries for making easier to colonise them..

US airstrikes kill Serbian embassy staffers held hostage by Isis in Libya


Two Serbian embassy staffers who had been held hostage since November died in Friday’s US airstrikes on an Islamic State camp in western Libya that killed dozens, Serbian officials said on Saturday.

Prime minister Aleksandar Vucic said there was no doubt that Sladjana Stankovic, a communications officer, and Jovica Stepic, a driver, were killed in the American bombing. They were taken hostage in November after their diplomatic convoy, including the ambassador, came under fire near the coastal Libyan city of Sabratha.

“Apparently, the Americans were not aware that foreign citizens were being kept there,” Vucic told reporters.

Speaking at a news conference in Belgrade earlier, foreign minister Ivica Dacic said information about the deaths was given to Serbia by foreign officials but had not been confirmed by the Libyan government.

“We got the information, including photos, which clearly show that this is most probably true,” Dacic said.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/20/us-airstrikes-libya-serbian-embassy-staffers-killed

these are already done not legally but theoritically..

A Kurdish autonomy will be established in Syria, but there will be no Sunni-Shiite division. If they are dividing Syria, then apart from the three groups, other groups such as Christians, Yazidis, and the Druze will also demand their own autonomies. So for now, only the Kurdish autonomy will be permitted. Also, there is no Shiite-Sunni division as such in Syria. A majority of the Sunnis also support the regime.

Terrorist Isis have only been able to make gains in North Syria is due to Turkish support and supply.

yes, you are definitely right.. democracy is not a good thing for middle east countries .. it brings a lot of horrible things to this lands more than dictators did back in time..

That is correct. Considering that more than 30% of their fighters are neither Syrian, nor Iraqi, the ISIS is heavily dependent upon the Turkish-ISIS border to transport new recruits. If the border is closed, then new recruits will be unable to travel to Raqqa, and the ISIS will not be able to replace its fighters who lose their lives in regime and Kurd offensives.

Yes, and it´s important to close up general supplies, especially medical supplies. About the best morale-breaker is to have the wounded rotting away to contend with. War should be ruthless, brutal and as short as possible. This saves lives and suffering. It´s the opposite of the U.S. endless wars.

ISIS is composed of different nationalities that is creating a fear in the world. I think countries behind them is also powerful that the powerful countries can even eliminate them. What do you think the countries behind them? Where do they get funds and guns,ammos?

It's going to be funny when the skunk goes there to let some fresh air into the room and deal with the unbearable stench :).

Wiretapped telephone calls between a leading figure from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and several members of the Turkish military reveal cooperation between ISIL and the Turkish military in letting smugglers cross the Turkey-Syria border, a report by a Turkish daily has alleged.
Documents prepared by a prosecutor's office contain a large number of transcripts of “friendly” telephone communications between military officers and Mustafa Demir, the ISIL member in charge of Turkey's Syria border, the Cumhuriyet daily said on Monday.
The prosecutor's documents reportedly say Turkish military officers also met with Demir on the border. The ISIL leader is indicated in the documents as the person behind the transportation of bombs from Syria to Turkey.
“The transcripts and the documents in the investigation revealed that Demir received money -- purportedly for zakat [alms] -- from smugglers at the border and cooperated with the officers as far as [border] crossings are concerned,” the report stated.
The Turkish government has long been accused by the opposition of turning a blind eye to ISIL's activities in Turkey as well as of having helped ISIL in fighting against the Syrian government.
According to the report, the documents in question are from a file in an ongoing court case on ISIL at the Ankara 3rd High Criminal Court.
The issues alleged in the case came to light because of an investigation launched following information given by six Turkish citizens whose relatives joined ISIL, the report said.
Upon the application by the relatives, monitoring of the communications of 19 people started, and a prosecutor named Derda Gökmen reportedly filed a claim against 27 suspects.
Demir, who is currently in Syria, and İlhami Balı, another leading ISIL figure, are among the suspects, the daily said.
Noting Balı is the person who gave the order for Turkey's deadliest ever suicide bomb attack in Ankara in October of last year, the report said Demir had also previously come to public attention due to his close links to Balı.
According to the report, the prosecutor, on the grounds that the transcripts also indicated a crime other than the one he was pursuing, launched yet another investigation on the link between ISIL terrorists and the Turkish military.
The prosecutor then reportedly, due to legal incompetence, referred the new investigation file to the prosecutor's office of the Gaziantep 5th Armored Brigade Command.
The report also said the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's Office had previously claimed, after some reports appeared in media outlets such as Cumhuriyet, that the phone calls are between military officers and smugglers, not ISIL members.
Below are transcripts of some phone calls Demir reportedly had with members of the Turkish military based on the investigation file......

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_daily-turkish-border-officers-cooperate-with-isil_412973.html

After Gains Against ISIS, American Focus Is Turning to Mosul

WASHINGTON — Recent gains against the Islamic State in eastern Syria have helped sever critical supply lines to Iraq and set the stage for what will be the biggest fight yet against the Sunni militancy, the battle to retake Mosul, Pentagon officials said on Monday.

Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at a Pentagon news conference that American-backed forces had begun laying the groundwork for the fight by moving to isolate Mosul from the Islamic State’s de facto headquarters in Raqqa, Syria. Kurdish and Arab forces retook the town of Shaddadi in eastern Syria last week, cutting off what Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter called the last major artery between Raqqa and Mosul.

But military officials cautioned that the fight for Mosul could last many months, requiring Iraqi forces unproven in urban warfare to advance street by street through the explosives-laden terrain of Iraq’s second-largest city, with more than one million people.

In addition to the advances in eastern Syria, the Pentagon has begun using cyberattacks on Islamic State communications between Raqqa and Mosul, as well as attacks meant to disrupt the militant group’s ability to use social media to recruit fighters, officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/world/middleeast/after-gains-against-isis-american-focus-is-turning-to-mosul.html?ref=world&_r=0