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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/12144039/Iraqi-migrant-admits-raping-boy-in-Austrian-pool-after-having-too-much-sexual-energy.html

Iraqi migrant admits raping boy in Austrian pool after having 'too much sexual energy'

Well I understand. It's all a question of instinct, feelings and self control.

I find it perfectly normal things like that happen. What I don't find normal though, is that we're not burning the refugees camps with the refugees in them for "accumulation of frustration for seeing our society, children and women rape every day by your kind".

motive for this horrible crime is instinct .. well, this is so disgusting..do these unhuman souls have any self-control mechanism.. congrats to all the europeen countiries who let these immigrants enter eu..

immigrant came from country where they are blocked from viewing any sex contents . so they have no self control at all in front of these types of situation so they need time to get adapted to the new environment.

Oh, well if it was an emergency then I guess it's ok. [/sarcasm]

Chop his penis into pieces, that'll release all the energy.

What I don't understand is that the guy was working as a taxi driver. So with an income, he should have been able to see a hooker, or pay a girl a drink, and well, finding a partner the normal way. I don't know how hard are Austrian jails, but I hope he'll face hard times.

But you don't understand! It was an emergency! Why are you people so stubborn and don't understand that?

He was raping a 10 year old boy.
I doubt very hard that the problem was money or hookers.

Pretty sure he has a not working brain.

Tbh castration and deport him. Im pretty sure ppl will think twice before raping someone.

Jail would enable him to stay in the country....

Problem being that you're wrong here.
It wouldn't make anyone think twice. Rape is not something thought and planned most of the time. Which means they don't THINK.

Well, castration is a good definitive solution though. Or death penalty/lifetime jail.
I don't think rape should be forgiven, ever.

Throw him in gen-pop and let them take care of him..

No, better yet.. I suspect he is a terrorist so the CIA needs him for intense interrogation at gitmo with broomsticks..

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...? 

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

I don't have a taste for rabid political correctness, and therefore I decided to point out the facts as they were. Child rape is not a part of the European culture, although it is very common in the middle east. If Austria had refrained from accepting all these barbarian hordes from the middle east, the kid would have been happy and safe now.

Anyone else see the irony in a gun ban advocate calling for the death penalty for rapists? If only the victim had a gun to begin with, they wouldn't be raped and the rapist would still be alive and learn that it is not worth it after confronting an armed would-be victim. Of course this makes too much sense.

Better to let the rape happen and just execute people after, because after all guns are scary! I saw Scarface I know all about guns!

Sure the 10 years old kid with his magnum, that would have totally helped him xD

Dude don't try to promote gun freedom everywhere! It has its uses, but it's not perfect ^^

Horror. Castration and deportation from Austria..That's when millions of uncivilized and crazy people walk freely in Europe.

Hmm I guess I'm prone to stereotypes but I guess the LGBT community has <Middle Eastern> members ??? (bi)
Worked as a taxi driver after arriving in Austria via the Balkans in September, and who has a wife and daughter back in Iraq.
After the attack, the suspect left the cubicle and went to enjoy himself by springing from the three-metre-high diving board while the victim alerted a lifeguard.
Strange news all around pent up release go swim after ...


Fair point viewed from that lens its a remnant of Greek culture that still pervades Middle Eastern perspectives and the general mistreatment of women freedoms.

Anyone else is seeing the difference between saying that death or castration is a good definitive solution and advocating for legal creation of that solution?
And I don't see the link between gun freedom and death penalty, it has like NOTHING in common in fact, beside the fact that USA are fund of both.

Oh yeah it would have totally helped the 10 years old boy to have a gun with him!!! For sure it would have been really helpful!!! You clearly convinced me with such an argument ::)

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

He makes the headlines cause he's a migrant. But crazy motherfuckers are everywhere and in every race you know?

i didn't say that in other races are no pedophiles and raping but this is obvious that all attacks that we read now made 'refugees' and in fact i don't remember recently that something similar happened in Vienna before this invasion

yes , you are definitely right .. goverments must change their law system...

Sever punishments for pedophiles so horrors like this wont happen again..what will be with this creature from Iraq?

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

We shouldn't become like them. But chemical castration would be appropriate.

No.  Any city, there are some areas you feel safe and some you don't walk through certain hours of the night.  Crazy motherfuckers are NOT EVERYWHERE.

You mean to say that swimming pools are "bad areas of a city"? You never know where a psychopath might luck.

That post sounds a lot like you are saying his actions were justified because he's not allowed to watch porn in his native country. Please tell me you aren't doing that. There is NO excuse for raping a child. There is NO excuse for raping anyone else, for that matter.

I assumed people reading would have enough common sense to understand I was not advocating the little boy should have had a gun, and stating so is little more than a straw man logical fallacy designed to distract from my actual argument. I should have known better than to expect any common sense on this forum.

In reality I was drawing attention to the irony of some one demanding "protection" of life by banning guns, and being willing to allow other rapes (such as adult women) and then executing the assailant after the fact rather than imprisoning them or god forbid just stopping the attack by being armed in the first place, most likely leading to everyone living free and unviolated.

I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim to want to protect life out of one side of your mouth while you allow the rape and execution of people with those same ideals out the other side of your mouth as a direct result of your anti-gun stance.






I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

It's crazy.
It seems this Muslim immigrants coming from completely different world, where they are not allowed to be free, have normal relationship with women, other people, children etc.
Now, they came to the West and it seems they ar5e lost and can't control their emotions, behavior etc.
It's becoming very serious problem now and don't know how to solve it.

I think you may be referring to one of our Traditional, Standard Psychopaths.

Not these new crazed ones.

Probably not gonna happen.  I don't get out much.  In either case I wasn't attacking what you wrote--I saw it as darkly humorous, and I'll take you at your word that it's true.  I certainly have seen how women are treated in Islam, as I have known some Muslims.  Being somewhat of a misanthrope and a self-centered bastard, I'm not too bothered as long as it doesn't encroach on my freedoms.

Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true.  I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live.  An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles.  They were set on by a band of six Indians.  The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired.  These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled.  The two boys proceeded to their school house.  There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it.  Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times?  Does not bother me.  This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children." 

they are generally pedophiles like to marry with children...so this is not surprising..this people can not be in Europe because they are uncivilized and never can be different. chemical castration is good choice so other people be safe

Yes maybe my terminology was not correct, but it is difficult to be precise when the region has been in constant conflict for thousands of years and has so much displacement. As far as training children to be children, I agree completely. Observe the difference between parents that treat their children as developing adults as opposed to the ones who coddle their children constantly doing things for them they could do themselves, and observe the developmental differences. This coddling creates dependence that later develops into dependence on the government. Unfortunately the soviet based "educational" model currently deployed in the USA and elsewhere is not that. the soviet model also seeks to create a system of dependence on the government.  

It is quite astounding what children are capable of if given the correct developmental environment. Not that it is the correct developmental environment, but I wonder if an armed child soldier in the Congo would have been so easily raped? I guess it is largely a matter of developmental acceleration for better or worse. History (and modern reality) shows us children can be just as capable as many so called adults.

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

[/quote]Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true.  I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live.  An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles.  They were set on by a band of six Indians.  The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired.  These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled.  The two boys proceeded to their school house.  There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it.  Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times?  Does not bother me.  This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children."  
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Yes maybe my terminology was not correct, but it is difficult to be precise when the region has been in constant conflict for thousands of years and has so much displacement. As far as training children to be children, I agree completely. Observe the difference between parents that treat their children as developing adults as opposed to the ones who coddle their children constantly doing things for them they could do themselves, and observe the developmental differences. This coddling creates dependence that later develops into dependence on the government. Unfortunately the soviet based "educational" model currently deployed in the USA and elsewhere is not that. the soviet model also seeks to create a system of dependence on the government.  

It is quite astounding what children are capable of if given the correct developmental environment. Not that it is the correct developmental environment, but I wonder if an armed child soldier in the Congo would have been so easily raped? I guess it is largely a matter of developmental acceleration for better or worse. History (and modern reality) shows us children can be just as capable as many so called adults.
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RE the "constant conflict for thousands of years," that's not the central issue.  Behind that is "tribal thinking," and all they are trying to do now is export their stupid shit.

One movie that comes to mind which illustrates the capability of children is  -

King of the Hill by Sodenburg

Also, La Misma Luna ("Under the Same Moon")

Now I'm confused.  So what are the goats for?

This could be a lonely situation for them. There not thinking that there are no camels, donkeys or goats in Vienna.  :)

There were several cases of sexual treating of animals in arab countries, camel,sheep, goat..so this is not unnatural to them. And now you have problem in Europe because they think can do what they want and what is 'normal' according for them

From their book.

"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate; sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."

"It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

"A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine."

"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."


"Each Muslim man, in exchange for a lifetime of mindless obedience, was to be rewarded after death with an unspecified number of pretty boys to bugger, plus eight heavenly houris, each more phallus-raising than the others and each endowed with the capacity to grow a new hymen after each bout of sexual recreation. The male chauvinist Muslim could thus satisfy his virginity fetish by deflowering them over and over again, for eternity. When one compares Mohammed's gardens of delight with the Christian heaven of harps and celibacy, it becomes apparent why significant numbers of Christian men turn Muslim while conversions the other way are almost non-existent."

These are argued to be mis translations, at least in part, from a book by Khomeini.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/234969511-beastiality-halal/

Quite interesting that "selling the meat to the next door village should be fine."

What. The. Hell. Each row I read my jaw drops more to the ground. What are these things? Not only they are strange and more than weird but they contradict themselves.
And they ask why people don't like them. I wonder why.

Dude, wanna compare this shit to some parts of the Bible? Cause there is some good shit here too you know!
Especially in the Leveticus...

Don't judge the other while totally forgetting your own crap.

they're mistranslations from a book by ayatollah khomeini. he doesn't say you can have sex with a girl as young as a baby, he says you can marry her but must refrain from sexual relations until she's at least 9.

Please then, do give us the correct translations. But 9 years old is still not right. If you had a daughter I'm sure you wouldn't be ok with someone having sex with her at that age. Or even 18 for that matter, but at that moment it's maybe too late.

Yeah and you absolutely don't wonder if this is not perhaps maybe COMPLETELY FAKE???

Hey look, Jesus was horrible:

Paul 14:7 "A man shall eat alive his wife whenever she looks at him like she doesn't care"

It's not because it's on the internet that it's right...

Chill down dude. No one said one religion is better than the other. I'm just freaked by all the crap I read everyday.

I'm calm. Just tired of people posting such crap. I mean Islam is not cool but god no need to add bulshit on this! :D

Oh, so you mean those verses are fake? The user that posted them was lying? Please do show us the truth. I'm curious to learn.

right or not right, it is not from "their book" as he claimed, its from khomeini, there's plenty of nasty stuff you can find in the koran without making things up

So why aren't there cases like this all over the world? Why are you defending such obvious crimes like these? You can't justify everything.

Please post here the correct translation If my post was wrong.

Horror and more horror. Now we should accept that sex with babies, children,animal is normal..if this is normal in their word it's not in our. That's shocking but at least nobody attacks them in their country and there they are free to make this barbarism but they won't perform that crap and mess in civilized world.

I am not capable of saying what is a "correct" translation.  I do not read that language.

Just noting there is controversy over that group of statements.

it's enough just reading few paragraphs of such a book to realize who they are. Ugly minds. And one saudi imam stated that if man is hungry he can eat his woman if he don't have anything else to eat??!!

Stop trying to deflect the conversation away just because you don't like what's being talked about, I'm sick to death of people who think they can just throw accusations at people or derail the conversation whenever they have to confront uncomfortable truths about what they believe.

i am so sorry for little boy and its family but some serious precautions must be taken.. these refregues are getting more and more dangerous day by day..

this things will happen again if something don't stop them. It's seems to be a part of their culture and this is unacceptable in other parts of world. Woman and children are target.

Are you dumb, blind or both?
In what hell do you read that I defend such crime? I'm saying that if "accumulution of frustration" was an excuse, we would all have the right to kill/rape/deport refugees for the lot of frustration we have...


My point was that it's not a relevant argument as the Coran is as shitty as the Bible. So it doesn't prove anything cause both books are more or less equally horrifying.
It's not to "deflect the conversation". It's just to put some perspective in it...

Take your weak politically correct ass out of here. I promise you you will not have a good time. Also take your paid signature spam flooding this section with you. People here have very little tolerance for social justice warriors. There is no shortage of people bashing other religions. Take your triggers, your outrage, and your hurt feels somewhere else, like twitter. They cater to your brand of fascism there. Of course there you don't get paid for posting...

Wtf is wrong with you guys? I'm not saying anything else than "the infamy of Coran is not a real argument as you got the same in the Bible"...
I'm not crying, not defending Islam, not trying to bring justice or any shit like that! Where did you see my "outrage, and your hurt feels"?
Just saying that Christians are the same shit than Islam.

So in your glorious opinion Tecshare, The only one who should be allowed to post are the one with the same opinion than you that's it?

P.S. Here. You're happy now? I deleted the double post so you can stop crying about "spam". Cause "spam" is not an argument. i find it 3 times less easy to read but you won't be able to cry about that!

your solution is so fair but not disinscentive.. we shoud execute all the rapists.

But Christians simply ARE NOT the same shit as Islam.

We don't have something like....

www.thereligionofpeace.com

...for Christians, now, do we?

Christians don't have 27,000 terror attackes since 9/11 attributed to them.

So pray tell us, what, exactly, comprises the difference?

That's what I'm trying since the begining...

We NO LONGER have them because Christianity is 2000 years old whereas Islam is 1300 years old.

But when Christianity had the same age, so in 1300, we had EXACTLY the same thing! We had the crusade for the killing of strangers of "the wrong faith" and we had the inquisition and religion judgement in our countries.

All I'm saying is that they're both the same, one is simply older than the other.

That's all, and that's a fact. It doesn't mean Islam is good. It means Christianity = Islam = stupid fucking absurd thing that destroys humanity.

for them it's ok either way. little boys. goats. whatever. get in, get off, get out.

yes , sexually assulting of animals is usual in arab countiries .. they dont hesitate to rape animals thats why they dont have boundiries to rape human beings.. they can have sex with all the living ones .. this is so disgusting..

it's barbarian..animals and boys..and woman are treated worst than slaves..another attack in marbella refugees from morocco destroyed with crashed votka bottle face of 15 years old girl while she was waiting taxi, her right eye is completely blind now

Ok we get it, you're a religion hating bigot. Are you also a vegan? Do you vape? Maybe a little crossfit?

Any time anyone tries to point out a harsh reality so that average people can take account and protect themselves, there is always some twat like you who has to bring up some refractory argument about how "the other side" is no better. We aren't talking about religion here, we are talking about general cultural behavior. As far as "spam" everyone knows you are only here to find an excuse to earn a few bitpennies by bumping up your post count, so please spare us the cries of censorship for pointing out your asinine behavior, as well as your poorly researched opinions.

Wow! What an argument! I think you litteraly destroyed me, thanks for showing me the light!
Oh and btw: no, no, nope.


Nooooooooo we're not talking about religion at all, we're talking about the Coran but we're not talking about religion xD
I'm glad you finally admit you have no other argument than "you're just a refractory mind" which is not an argument.
I'll stop debating with you. You've got only two states of mind:
-People agreeing with you, you more or less say "you're right"
-people disagreeing with you, all you says is "you're an idiot with a refractory opinion". Well, take your aggressive temper on something else. Maybe do some boxing ;)

Me I'm tired of you. bye. Hope you'll learn to think one day.

That was no argument. And I wasn't trying to destroy you. You're such a shallow person, therefore I was toying with you. You have your opinion, albeit a very twisted one, in which you have to bring up how Christians, some, not all, were a thousand years ago in order to make a comparison to how Muslims, some, not all, are today. It is a pointless argument that sad little people like yourself try to make in order to feel self-righteous. But hey, if comparing apples to oranges is what helps you sleep at night, go for it. But at least do yourself a favor and also point out the atrocities committed by atheists throughout history as well in order to keep things on a level playing field.

Hmm...
Again I was referring to a post criticizing Coran and explaining why it's a useless argument as if you look at it the Bible is not better.
The point is to put some relativism in those debates otherwise you can all go in the same side and spit on anything you want.

My argument was very specific and taken out of its context. I don't care though it's still a solid one.

Here is the beginning:

That's all I said. But people got totally mad at me for daring comparing the Bible to the Coran.
I don't feel like comparing apples to oranges. More like pointing out the fact that they're both fruits ;)

Not going to quote all those replies again. But here's the hole in your logic: You're attempting to hold Christians of today accountable for the actions of Christians from a thousand years ago, based on entries in the Bible which were written many thousands of years ago. That makes about as much sense as holding today's white Americans accountable for the actions of slave holders from 200 years ago. When the Bible was written, it was written with customs, laws, and practices which were acceptable in that region of the world during that time. Christians as a whole have progressed far enough into the 21st century to realize that many of the customs and traditions written about in the Bible are no longer acceptable, and therein lies the difference between today's Christians and today's Muslims. Islam is still stuck in the first century A.D. because many of them still practice the customs written about in the Koran, such as stonings, beheadings, honor killings, and taking child brides. When was the last time you heard about Christians stoning rape victims? Or beheading infidels? Cutting off the hands of thieves? Or marrying 10 year old girls?

Let this sink in.... Christians are NOTHING like Muslims. Yes, I will admit that we are not without our faults. But I would hardly say that refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding is anywhere near as bad as throwing gays to their deaths off of roof tops.