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Economy => Investor-based games => Topic started by: user000 on February 08, 2016, 05:09:43 PM



Title: Conflict between Block trail / Block chain / Wallet
Post by: user000 on February 08, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
I have a doubt.

I was using Doublechain.info

I invested 0.005 BTCwhich is the min. and they said that they will send 200 Bits each hour for next 50 hours.

It worked fine for next 35 hours where I was paid 0.007 BTC.

Then the website showed transactions. The links were made public.

Here is one of the link. I cannot understand this

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c

Relay Time / TX Value / Inputs - all were conflicting.

I thought of rechecking on Blockchain and there was no such transaction at all. My wallet also did not show anything.

Now, following points are to be noted.

If Blocktrail values are correct and the website is manipulating the data / transaction to confuse me, then let me tell you that the very first transaction was also such a misleading transaction with invalid values as mentioned above; But the correct transaction did show up on blockchain and my actual wallet.

Thank you for the information.
Since you are experienced about this, kindly enlighten what went wrong. Why is there a conflict between Block trail and Block Chain? It should be noted that whatever my Blockchain shows, my original wallet supports it and there is no conflict between the 2.


Title: Re: Conflict between Block trail / Block chain / Wallet
Post by: fbueller on February 08, 2016, 06:31:31 PM
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c and https://blockchain.info/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c

Blockchain.info didn't hear about the transaction until it was mined. Blocktrail saw it an hour earlier. I can't see a difference in the inputs / outputs.

For some reason, the transaction wasn't propagated fully around the network. Nodes likely rejected it because of the fee (the fee is small for so many outputs!). Blocktrail heard about it over the p2p network, whereas blockchain didn't look at it until a block was published including the transaction.

Nodes have a strong incentive to listen to blocks, but the mempool is now limited on nodes. You can't expect every node to see every transaction before it's mined.


Title: Re: Conflict between Block trail / Block chain / Wallet
Post by: user000 on February 19, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c and https://blockchain.info/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c

Blockchain.info didn't hear about the transaction until it was mined. Blocktrail saw it an hour earlier. I can't see a difference in the inputs / outputs.

For some reason, the transaction wasn't propagated fully around the network. Nodes likely rejected it because of the fee (the fee is small for so many outputs!). Blocktrail heard about it over the p2p network, whereas blockchain didn't look at it until a block was published including the transaction.

Nodes have a strong incentive to listen to blocks, but the mempool is now limited on nodes. You can't expect every node to see every transaction before it's mined.

Can you elaborate how to decode blocktrail transaction hash.

I am not that technically advance. I know about blockchain address transaction but not hash tx. I mean how to see this

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c

and identify exactly which transaction took place


Title: Re: Conflict between Block trail / Block chain / Wallet
Post by: achow101 on February 19, 2016, 11:01:43 PM
Can you elaborate how to decode blocktrail transaction hash.

I am not that technically advance. I know about blockchain address transaction but not hash tx. I mean how to see this

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/36b8043dccea499d6678d6098335fb86982c2531e36ed266056b3f06f7b9637c

and identify exactly which transaction took place
That IS the transaction that happened. The way a transaction works is that it takes inputs (outputs from another transaction) and it creates outputs. Technically there is no such thing as sending bitcoin to an address, technically there is no such thing as an address. That means that in this one transaction, one input was spent and it created several outputs which can also be spent. They are all part of the same transaction.