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What happened::

The buyer casio87 sent me PM and asked my Skype name for a trade. We started with a small amount to gain trust from each other. He sent me €40 in service/good payment and we finished our 1st trade. Later he wanted to buy all the remaining Bitcoins in my wallet. I claimed that I only accept personal/gift in the following trade and he agreed. After that, he sent me only $70 in service/good payment not with his own but with his "girlfriend" account. He said his Paypal account has the issue and will send the remaining money in personal/gift payment later. In the end, I refused and refunded his "girlfriend".

Within 1 hour after the 1st trade done, he opened a dispute for an unauthorized transaction. Soon after he sent another $70 in personal/gift payment with another Paypal account then opened the 2nd dispute.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562081
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=633242
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=550375

Reference Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.msg13832123#msg13832123

Amount Scammed: 0.10350114 BTC
Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment:
https://blockchain.info/address/113L6W8deAdpguM9gTUTcceYN1a42RSuef?currency=MBC

PM/Chat Logs:

https://i.imgur.com/kfm1THq.png
https://i.imgur.com/GczUYCm.png
https://i.imgur.com/7tbvePK.png
https://i.imgur.com/amVS5n5.png
https://i.imgur.com/NizHlkj.png
https://i.imgur.com/MI4cbVP.png
https://i.imgur.com/Q64EN4a.png
https://i.imgur.com/THYH7US.png
https://i.imgur.com/JigJbB0.png
https://i.imgur.com/n4WxsSC.png
https://i.imgur.com/c5Om5Fa.png
https://i.imgur.com/2wBZeJ2.png
https://i.imgur.com/QuQ00VV.png

The Paypal Account He Used to Send Payment:

fatih.atilla@web.de
karinar@btinternet.com
Jean-Baptiste Gilles
p.m.diianni@gmail.com

Additional Notes:
1. Don't trade anything with this guy. Also, some members found that ShakinHandz and samantlia are the same people, and they all ever traded with him.
2. His Skype: hinally54

I'm pretty sure that guy has multiple accounts here. It's probably best to just stay away from PayPal altogether unless you're dealing with someone trusted enough. You also have to be careful when dealing with anyone who offers their ids, selfies, and etc to verify they own the paypal account. I won't go into that here and give these assholes any ideas though.

These are the type of members who don't give a fuck about BTC. I wouldn't be surprised if you sent the BTC to another trader's address, one who is probably legit who then sends funds to the scammer's other paypal account.

samantlia sent me a PM！

https://i.imgur.com/JYda6qF.png

http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/98.119.0.174 He is from California, hope that helps  :-\

Could have easily been prevented if you took a minute to search google for his skype name.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1266107.msg13095949#msg13095949
https://fanbitcoin.com/index.php?action=profile;u=550375 - Google cache and results show marcos258

casio87 = marcos258 = morroco.man = low life scammer who will scam for a couple of dollars.

Something to keep in mind next time.....

Got a new PM from samantlia though I didn't expect he will reply me.

https://i.imgur.com/sGP4KUa.png

I don't know what he really want to do. To prove he is innocent?

Scammer Family Tree morocco.man -> marcos258 -> Aicha3011  ( funday and from10to1280 ) - wmz1987 and casio87 etc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1324050.0

Please keep us updated about what samantlia claims to have done or said.

I wont proof anything, but I'm a honest user and if a can help you to sending the paypal email or other thing you need, i will do this .

Things are not looking good for you here.....

I wonder how can I refunf him, my account says 130$ dispute settled.

Huhh....I am really shocked tovsee many mother fuckrrs here..

Why the butt-hurt?... accept the fact that you have scammed and stop beating around the bushes.

New updated! samantlia rage quit!!

https://i.imgur.com/nCLMRob.png
https://i.imgur.com/QfpM9X3.png

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/06/1455217907-sans-titre.png

Conclusion:

samantilia traded with casio87 on Feb 7th but accidently lost all his chat history before the 8th. After he provided a transaction screenshot of the payment from casio87's gf, He said they actually traded on the 5th. Two days later, they both left positive feedbacks on each others on 2/7.

Funny guys here  ;D ;D , because of you dude, only because of you, i leave this thread too, if you got scamming, dont pm me if you need my help.
I dont rage quit, i quit because your very stupid and speak with you lost my time .


I have lost nothing, dude what you say omg ? Please send every pm send and not what you want dude .
I can sent pm you send me, you're very strange and i think very stupid to believe i'm a scammer but you dont search any proof .
If think you are a very strange guy due to your strange pm.
So, good luck dude, nerver pm me now , I never more help you And i want never trade with you .

Is p.m.diianni@gmail.com - Pia Manuela Di Ianni your email or the casio87 email?

These are all the PM I received from or sent to you.

You can also post the PM here if you think that wasn't included.

Its casio email no my email dude !

I don't get how can the same person win all disputes from PayPal. It can either be that PayPal is dumb or the person is smart enough to cheat so many users here. Another reputed person of this forum got scammed by casio and now again 2 more cases in just a week. PayPal refunded the payments in just few minutes?

The top thread in the currency exchange board says not to trade BTC for a reversible currency like Paypal. Paypal has and probably always will, protect the money sender rather than the recipient. That is part of the reason why people charge such high amounts to exchange it to BTC - because there will always be some asshole like this ripping people off. It's probably best not to trade it with anyone less than a Legendary member and even then in small amounts.