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Title: House edge of slots?
Post by: jacee on February 10, 2016, 11:52:04 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Patatas on February 11, 2016, 12:11:27 AM
The house edge varies with every website.Most of the website do mention the house edge of the slots,infact for any games.To my information house edges ranges from 1% to 4% for the slots which I have played.Don't think it gets lower than that.There a nice article you might wish you read on reddit about house edges in gambling https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinGambling/comments/36z3wi/which_is_the_lowest_house_edge_fair_bitcoin_casino/


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: BigMac on February 11, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

There are some provably fair slots, such as the one on satoshidice, coinroyale and crypto-games.net, but there are also a lot of non provably fair slots out there. I am not interested in slots very much and so I have not much idea about its house edge.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Araudan on February 11, 2016, 12:32:44 AM
The house edge of slots is the biggest for a casino :)


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: unholycactus on February 11, 2016, 02:31:42 AM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

The way I've seen it programmed is like this: machines have a return rate.
For example, if everyone puts 1BTC, the machine will keep 30% of that and return 70% to the players.
A game like blackjack have a return rate of about 99-99.5% depending on the rules and assuming the player plays perfectly.

What most people have a hard time understanding is that many players can put everything they have (lose 100%). This happens often since most people can't manage their bankroll properly (although there's no profitable way to do it statistically).
Followed by a single one who plays and win many times his investment (anywhere from 1 to 1000x or even more).


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Superhitech on February 11, 2016, 06:16:43 AM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: NorrisK on February 11, 2016, 06:30:58 AM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.

The gambling sites could easily include some visuals of rolling a dice, but this would greatly reduce the speed of the rolls and thus the profit of the dice site.

The same way slots can be made non visual with only numbers, but because we are so used to it, nobody would like to see something like that.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: bitbaby on February 11, 2016, 07:05:00 AM
Most of the fancy slots are not provably fair, maybe its because they have lot of elements/small-games which are part of it and the house edge should be mentioned at the site you're playing at.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Erza on February 11, 2016, 10:23:29 AM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.

But for dice game house edge only affected in a long run and when you are using some strategy. If you are just manual bet I dont think that  house edge really affect you. But for slot you can suddenly hit a jackpot with just one roll too, although you played with house edge although it is high I am sure you can get a good profit too


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Chemistry1988 on February 11, 2016, 11:05:08 AM
But for dice game house edge only affected in a long run and when you are using some strategy. If you are just manual bet I dont think that  house edge really affect you.

This is simply not true. Even if you just make only one bet, a 1% house edge would bring your winning chance 1% lower. For example for x2 bet, it becomes 49.5% rather than 50%, making your expected return to be always only 99% of your wagered.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: jacee on February 11, 2016, 11:09:09 AM
Yea well, what I understand with your posts is that slota has a higher house edge than any other gambling game. I just fancy playing slots because I like the graphics specially those video slots. My favorite is Jekyle and Hyde. :D


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: pereira4 on February 11, 2016, 12:23:58 PM
It depends on the site. Bitcoinvideocasino is my favorite slot site because you can select how many lines to play, up to 20, and you can make a lot of money with the progressive wins and bonuses if you get lucky, and I also like it graphics wise. For me the 3 slot machines are boring, I need 5.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: SDice_CTO on February 11, 2016, 12:57:54 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. :( ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

Real casinos usually have around 3-4% edge on slot games. It varies and is for example higher in high end casinos and lower in places where Las Vegas locals play.

Slots generally display paylines and payouts, but people that made their own slots and post on this forum may not display this properly. It's complicated to calculate actual payout so it's usually done by running a few billion simulation spins.

btw, I think you mean probability when you say provability :)


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: jacee on February 11, 2016, 01:05:49 PM
It depends on the site. Bitcoinvideocasino is my favorite slot site because you can select how many lines to play, up to 20, and you can make a lot of money with the progressive wins and bonuses if you get lucky, and I also like it graphics wise. For me the 3 slot machines are boring, I need 5.

Faik all slots I have played has an option to configure the number. That's the best feature of slots for me. :D Btw, do you know any slots game that has a lower min. bet? I play at bitstarz and the min. bet is 1mbtc per bet. They used to have a 0.5 mBtc min. bet the last time I played.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: maku on February 11, 2016, 01:32:53 PM
Interesting facts about slots machines: in real live casinos slots are primary money making game for the house.
No other casino game brings more money to the house. Normally House Edge of Slots are in the range of 2%-15%



Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Patatas on February 11, 2016, 01:34:57 PM
Interesting facts about slots machines: in real live casinos slots are primary money making game for the house.
No other casino game brings more money to the house. Normally House Edge of Slots are in the range of 2%-15%
They're still subjective in regards two every website.I can link you to good slots which have house edges as low as 1% and some of the best online casinos have house edges to the maximum of 4%.15% is way too much I feel,haven't really see any websites lately offering that high edges in this competitive market.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Mickeyb on February 11, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
Although house edge guarantees that you will lose in the long term, because you more or less have no control over what payout you want in slots, they can essentially fuck you up in the short term by having very high payouts for a select interval, while having very low payout for others.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: shanem on February 11, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
The house edge of slots is very high based on real-life casinos. I believe that online casinos are no different. If the house edge of slots is low, a casino would have made announcement to everybody.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: eli113 on February 11, 2016, 02:14:46 PM
the nature of slot machine games is way diferent than games like dice and such
house edge has direct impact on payout when you play dice , you get always -HE% on your winnings

but in slots you cant choose your payout X so the most important factor is
the payout table , house edge is secondary concern

lets say a slot game has a rare combo to pay 1 / 100000 spins
if that combo pays lets say 20000x then for all casual users the average house edge
they face every day is 20000/100000 = 20% plus the usual house edge

take a good look at payout tables of slot games you want to play at first
if you see such rare combos paying very big payout x then you will know
for sure just one thing : unless you actually hit that rare combo you are about
to feeding that slot for very very long time.

a well balanced payout table paying from even money up to 1000-2000x and
a house edge up to 2% it is better than a 0% edge and a bad payout table



Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: DogecoinMachine on February 11, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
https://www.crypto-games.net has a competitive house edge of 1.97% with max win of 5 BTC, 5 mio Doge, 500 LTC,...


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: Xsinx on February 11, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
Dice has better chance of winning than slots, i have played many slots and i feel that house edge is 99% always win


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: john2231 on February 11, 2016, 04:26:27 PM
I think slots has 10% house edge or more because i always play slots but i never win or got a profit.
But i saw some slots before but there's no money involve i think 5% of house edge for every slots.. i don't remember it and i experience to play it because is just a apps in android trending in facebook.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
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Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: treeguard on February 13, 2016, 07:34:01 PM
slots usually have a pretty big house edge as far as i know, thats why i dont manage to win anything big in it


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: zeaderza on February 13, 2016, 08:38:56 PM
Slots game have the biggest house edge.You can play dice with a low house edge,roullete or sports bets.
But is better not gamble.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: mtnsaa on February 13, 2016, 08:55:41 PM
It depends on each site I guess. I've always wondered this about the RL casino slots. The general idea is that they pay you depending on how much and how long you've wagered, that is at least what old women do hehe. In online casinos I guess if they are provably fair then you can check how much is the edge on each game or whole site.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: SyGambler on February 13, 2016, 09:58:22 PM
slots have the highest house edge , it's the bread and butter for all the casinos
usually it varies for each game even in the same casino , but at the end slots still the most profitable game for the casinos
playing dice or blackjack is better option , but at the end it's all about having fun
most of the sites will not tell about the house edge , but there are plenty of sites that give info about their edge in slots 


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: futurebit640 on February 14, 2016, 01:18:35 AM
Dice has better chance of winning than slots, i have played many slots and i feel that house edge is 99% always win

Actually in both cased mostly house will win if we play more in those games but what you said is also correct because as per me also slots are very difficult to win. Mostly these luck based games we should play only for fun time instead to make money from those games.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: fullypak on February 14, 2016, 01:29:43 AM
Dice has better chance of winning than slots, i have played many slots and i feel that house edge is 99% always win

Actually in both cased mostly house will win if we play more in those games but what you said is also correct because as per me also slots are very difficult to win. Mostly these luck based games we should play only for fun time instead to make money from those games.

That is true. All these luck based games are same because the end results will be mostly same but if your lucky and smart to withdraw your winnings at right time. So for I never withdraw any coins from these dice or slot games so I just play these games for entertainment sometimes when I got bored.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: SirChiko on February 14, 2016, 05:30:40 AM
I think slots has 10% house edge or more because i always play slots but i never win or got a profit.
But i saw some slots before but there's no money involve i think 5% of house edge for every slots.. i don't remember it and i experience to play it because is just a apps in android trending in facebook.
This isn't true, house edge is preset different by every gambling site and your statement of 10% is bullshit, it's way lower cuz of the current competition.


Title: Re: House edge of slots?
Post by: adaseb on February 14, 2016, 05:45:03 AM
slots have the highest house edge , it's the bread and butter for all the casinos
usually it varies for each game even in the same casino , but at the end slots still the most profitable game for the casinos
playing dice or blackjack is better option , but at the end it's all about having fun
most of the sites will not tell about the house edge , but there are plenty of sites that give info about their edge in slots 

Slots usually have the highest house edge but in real casinos. Usually online the websites try to make them more down to earth and fair but its probably higher then straight dice.