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Title: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: TheIrishman on February 11, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/v9auSXD.jpg

The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys)

<< Can your smart TV spy on you? Absolutely, says the US director of national intelligence. The ever-widening array of "smart" web-enabled devices pundits have dubbed the internet of things [IoT] is a welcome gift to intelligence officials and law enforcement, according to director James Clapper. "In the future, intelligence services might use the [internet of things] for identification, surveillance, monitoring, location tracking, and targeting for recruitment, or to gain access to networks or user credentials", Clapper told the Senate in public testimony on Tuesday.

As a category, the internet of things is useful to eavesdroppers both official and unofficial for a variety of reasons, the main one being the leakiness of the data. "One helpful feature for surveillance is that private sector IoT generally blabs a lot, routinely into some server, somewhere",said Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "That data blabbing can be insecure in the air, or obtained from storage".

There are a wide variety of devices that can be used to listen in, and some compound devices (like cars) that have enough hardware to form a very effective surveillance suite all by themselves. There are, of course, legitimate and tightly warranted reasons for law enforcement surveillance, and there are also companies that take hard lines against turning their users over to the government. But hardware manufacturers often default to crummy security, or don't offer a choice, and consumers often make themselves more vulnerable than they should. >>


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 11, 2016, 03:06:50 AM
I like how every one that got a fitbit is now finding out they where being tracked in multiple ways.
Have a sticker over my webcam, guess we need a killswitch for the t.v.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: D3ViL on February 11, 2016, 04:17:47 AM
the more you use technology, the more your private life is open to spying, its a known fact,nothing can be done to avoid that. your cellphone does carry more information than you think it passes on to the spying eyes


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: mainpmf on February 11, 2016, 07:17:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/v9auSXD.jpg

The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys)

<< Can your smart TV spy on you? Absolutely, says the US director of national intelligence. The ever-widening array of "smart" web-enabled devices pundits have dubbed the internet of things [IoT] is a welcome gift to intelligence officials and law enforcement, according to director James Clapper. "In the future, intelligence services might use the [internet of things] for identification, surveillance, monitoring, location tracking, and targeting for recruitment, or to gain access to networks or user credentials", Clapper told the Senate in public testimony on Tuesday.

As a category, the internet of things is useful to eavesdroppers both official and unofficial for a variety of reasons, the main one being the leakiness of the data. "One helpful feature for surveillance is that private sector IoT generally blabs a lot, routinely into some server, somewhere",said Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "That data blabbing can be insecure in the air, or obtained from storage".

There are a wide variety of devices that can be used to listen in, and some compound devices (like cars) that have enough hardware to form a very effective surveillance suite all by themselves. There are, of course, legitimate and tightly warranted reasons for law enforcement surveillance, and there are also companies that take hard lines against turning their users over to the government. But hardware manufacturers often default to crummy security, or don't offer a choice, and consumers often make themselves more vulnerable than they should. >>


Bah!

Not saying you're wrong, but nowadays EVERYTHING can spy you. Just think about windows 10: it has more malwayre key loggers and viruses than any shitty programme on the net, the only difference is that they're not detected as you accept them by taking windows 10 xD

You don't have the choice, you give out your data all the time. Do that or live appart from technology evolution. Or be on Linux ^^


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Jet Cash on February 11, 2016, 08:42:36 AM
Yep! Your computer is the biggest spy. I disabled cortana in Windows 10 a while ago, as this contains a keylogger, and automatic cloud saving services. Despite several unrequested updates, Windows hasn't re-enabled cortana, so I guess the important routines (for them ) are outside cortana.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: youdamushi on February 11, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
Yep! Your computer is the biggest spy. I disabled cortana in Windows 10 a while ago, as this contains a keylogger, and automatic cloud saving services. Despite several unrequested updates, Windows hasn't re-enabled cortana, so I guess the important routines (for them ) are outside cortana.

Pfff, they just don't need only Cortana. Anything else in this OS is spying on you...

And if you're using Google Chrome it's like 10 times worst xD


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: bitsmichel on February 11, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
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Not saying you're wrong, but nowadays EVERYTHING can spy does spy  you.
FTFY. The problem is it's not only your own country spying on you, but it's all countries of the world spying on you. Criminals are spying on you too.
Governments have a duty to protect their citizens, but very little is done on the defensive side.


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You don't have the choice, you give out your data all the time. Do that or live appart from technology evolution. Or be on Linux ^^
Don't be misled. Even if you use Linux on the software level, your router, your ISP, your tv, your microwave is spying on you. Don't forget hardware backdoors either.
Spying does financial damage, also to the United States. The economy is already going down, handing our company and personal lives to foreign countries, terrorists and criminals will only do more damage.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: adverbelly on February 11, 2016, 12:43:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/v9auSXD.jpg

The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys)

<< Can your smart TV spy on you? Absolutely, says the US director of national intelligence. The ever-widening array of "smart" web-enabled devices pundits have dubbed the internet of things [IoT] is a welcome gift to intelligence officials and law enforcement, according to director James Clapper. "In the future, intelligence services might use the [internet of things] for identification, surveillance, monitoring, location tracking, and targeting for recruitment, or to gain access to networks or user credentials", Clapper told the Senate in public testimony on Tuesday.

As a category, the internet of things is useful to eavesdroppers both official and unofficial for a variety of reasons, the main one being the leakiness of the data. "One helpful feature for surveillance is that private sector IoT generally blabs a lot, routinely into some server, somewhere",said Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "That data blabbing can be insecure in the air, or obtained from storage".

There are a wide variety of devices that can be used to listen in, and some compound devices (like cars) that have enough hardware to form a very effective surveillance suite all by themselves. There are, of course, legitimate and tightly warranted reasons for law enforcement surveillance, and there are also companies that take hard lines against turning their users over to the government. But hardware manufacturers often default to crummy security, or don't offer a choice, and consumers often make themselves more vulnerable than they should. >>


this is so scary and it is a definite violation of privacy.. where is the human rights and so -called liberty .. so ridiculous..


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: gregyoung14 on February 11, 2016, 01:01:49 PM
Yep! Your computer is the biggest spy. I disabled cortana in Windows 10 a while ago, as this contains a keylogger, and automatic cloud saving services. Despite several unrequested updates, Windows hasn't re-enabled cortana, so I guess the important routines (for them ) are outside cortana.

Never heard of keylogger issues with this. Geez, thanks for the note. Cortana out..


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: mainpmf on February 11, 2016, 02:06:48 PM
Yep! Your computer is the biggest spy. I disabled cortana in Windows 10 a while ago, as this contains a keylogger, and automatic cloud saving services. Despite several unrequested updates, Windows hasn't re-enabled cortana, so I guess the important routines (for them ) are outside cortana.

Never heard of keylogger issues with this. Geez, thanks for the note. Cortana out..

Lol!
It's not only Cortana or keylogger!
Windows 10 is the same thing as 20 viruses all in one OS!
It can tracks everything you do and type! It can even block hacked programmes xD


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: buddycool on February 11, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
People can track you using your mobile phone... There is a lot of private information in our phones... And there are applications that may spy on us... Think if your account details may get hacked...


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 11, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
How do these newer cars work with wifi,they keep advertising it and imagine the signal must be lost constantly,also another great way to track people.

Its going to be funny when our fridges lock us out if we gained to much weight for the day.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: gentlemand on February 11, 2016, 09:09:40 PM
A Samsung smart tv's privacy policy -  “Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition.”

It's all around already, kids.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: TheIrishman on February 11, 2016, 11:42:22 PM
A Samsung smart tv's privacy policy -  “Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition.”

It's all around already, kids.

I just had to confirm this and what you wrote is 100% accurate:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/31660/20150209/beware-samsung-smart-tv-may-record-your-private-conversations-and-share-them-with-third-parties.htm (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/31660/20150209/beware-samsung-smart-tv-may-record-your-private-conversations-and-share-them-with-third-parties.htm)

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/09/samsung-rejects-concern-over-orwellian-privacy-policy (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/09/samsung-rejects-concern-over-orwellian-privacy-policy)

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2uuvdz (https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2uuvdz)



Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: gentlemand on February 12, 2016, 12:46:14 AM
I would absolutely love to know what they're doing with all those voice recordings. What possible use would it be listening to people abusing assholes on talent shows and threatening their kids?


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 12, 2016, 02:18:22 AM
This is frightening, not going to lie.  I'm thinking all these smart products are just to keep us distracted whilst governments are putting up the microsurveillance systems all around town to really spy on us.  Ever see footage of the Boston Marathon bombing suspect doing everything he did?  Cameras tracked him everywhere, and that's not the only example.  It's crazy.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: yenxz on February 12, 2016, 09:17:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/v9auSXD.jpg

The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/internet-of-things-surveillance-smart-tv-cars-toys)

<< Can your smart TV spy on you? Absolutely, says the US director of national intelligence. The ever-widening array of "smart" web-enabled devices pundits have dubbed the internet of things [IoT] is a welcome gift to intelligence officials and law enforcement, according to director James Clapper. "In the future, intelligence services might use the [internet of things] for identification, surveillance, monitoring, location tracking, and targeting for recruitment, or to gain access to networks or user credentials", Clapper told the Senate in public testimony on Tuesday.

As a category, the internet of things is useful to eavesdroppers both official and unofficial for a variety of reasons, the main one being the leakiness of the data. "One helpful feature for surveillance is that private sector IoT generally blabs a lot, routinely into some server, somewhere",said Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "That data blabbing can be insecure in the air, or obtained from storage".

There are a wide variety of devices that can be used to listen in, and some compound devices (like cars) that have enough hardware to form a very effective surveillance suite all by themselves. There are, of course, legitimate and tightly warranted reasons for law enforcement surveillance, and there are also companies that take hard lines against turning their users over to the government. But hardware manufacturers often default to crummy security, or don't offer a choice, and consumers often make themselves more vulnerable than they should. >>

not relize that this thing can be happen,but as long we dont have any that must be keeping tight,we dont have to worry,more worry if we have share anything in social media,its must be concern.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: mainpmf on February 12, 2016, 10:15:30 AM
A Samsung smart tv's privacy policy -  “Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition.”

It's all around already, kids.

Cool. Didn't know that. It's really the Big Brother era xD


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 12, 2016, 12:41:15 PM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: darkangel11 on February 12, 2016, 01:31:20 PM
I would absolutely love to know what they're doing with all those voice recordings. What possible use would it be listening to people abusing assholes on talent shows and threatening their kids?
They are looking for something interesting to find like a casual conversation of 2 politicians that can be used against them later ;)


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: youdamushi on February 12, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.

Problem is not with companies doing this but government letting companies doing it :/


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 14, 2016, 12:19:33 AM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.

Problem is not with companies doing this but government letting companies doing it :/

Its both, you can not run a cell phone companie without backdoors for government in North America. Some of these companies are also big enough to dictate policy.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Tyrantt on February 15, 2016, 01:49:50 AM
Sometimes I'm really glad I live in a time forgotten land, Serbia. No one really gives a shit about anyone.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: youdamushi on February 15, 2016, 12:46:13 PM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.

Problem is not with companies doing this but government letting companies doing it :/

Its both, you can not run a cell phone companie without backdoors for government in North America. Some of these companies are also big enough to dictate policy.


They dictate policy only because we have shitty governments with shitty election of people needing the money of big companies to run a campaign because people are too dumb to look themselves who's the more suited for the job and have to be convinced through expensive propaganda.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: mainpmf on February 15, 2016, 02:24:18 PM
Sometimes I'm really glad I live in a time forgotten land, Serbia. No one really gives a shit about anyone.

Yeah I understand you dude, I'm thinking about moving to Iceland right now ^^


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: Zeke2345 on February 15, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
Governments do not bring change, its the people that bring in serious change.
Problem now is how powerful these companies have become and how reliant people are on their products.
1984 will continue till we out right riot. Companies now submit to the people till the issue fades and try again.
One aspect for these products listening in could be faster evolution of the product. Least that would be the argument.


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: hugoworld on February 15, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
I would absolutely love to know what they're doing with all those voice recordings. What possible use would it be listening to people abusing assholes on talent shows and threatening their kids?
They are looking for something interesting to find like a casual conversation of 2 politicians that can be used against them later ;)

i think they are want to prove how the mankind is the dumpest living creature in this world..


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: youdamushi on February 16, 2016, 09:09:05 AM
Governments do not bring change, its the people that bring in serious change.
Problem now is how powerful these companies have become and how reliant people are on their products.
1984 will continue till we out right riot. Companies now submit to the people till the issue fades and try again.
One aspect for these products listening in could be faster evolution of the product. Least that would be the argument.
Hope you're right and we will indeed riot buddy. But I'm afraid it will never happen.
They're not even thinking about it. Most people are just stupid consumers bending in front of the glorious capitalism


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: designerusa on February 16, 2016, 05:53:21 PM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.
Problem is not with companies doing this but government letting companies doing it :/

i totally agree with you.. all the government wants to surpress their public with different ways.. spying via these technological devices are one of them and the most dangerous ones i guess..


Title: Re: The internet of things: how your TV, car and toys could spy on you
Post by: mainpmf on February 16, 2016, 06:29:33 PM
Not so much big brother but more the issue of tech companies exploiting all possible holes. Seems to attract people that are a little less connected to people.
Data is just to important these days for them not to try exploiting us.
Problem is not with companies doing this but government letting companies doing it :/

i totally agree with you.. all the government wants to surpress their public with different ways.. spying via these technological devices are one of them and the most dangerous ones i guess..

Yeah and with the data collected they also get the money don't forget it!