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Look out below. Going to be a lot of bag holders who can't sell as liquidity collapses in a mad stampede out the door.

The truth will now come out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13857533#msg13857533).

My point is a long-term HODLer may lose their investment, because Ethereum is fundamentally flawed.

They might want to capture the $14 price whilst they can, if they can.

Disclaimer: I am not giving investment advice. Each person should make their own decisions.

The point is if this crashes back to 30 cents, then it may not be rising again EVER.

I see you are determined to troll this thread with noise and spin.

If I hear from regular investors here who have successfully sold large volumes of ETH, then I can perhaps have some belief that this isn't just the insiders selling to themselves to create fake volume and a fake price, as the dumb investors buy from the insiders at higher and higher prices.

You know damn well that if you can continue to convince people to not sell, then the alleged insider scam can continue unabated. But eventually people need to sell, and that is when the insiders will stop offering bids because they don't want to buy (unless it is from themselves) rather they want to cash out at the highest possible prices sold to the greatest number of bag holders.

These posts are the reason I'm getting sick of the BTC community.
Like BTC is flawless.

Unfortunately the free-fall seemed to stop. Looks like a lot of buy orders saved it from falling further. Let's see though if there'll be more price drops.

How can anyone prove it is not insiders buying from themselves again? Not enough bag holders sustained selling to force the insiders to give up. So they'll pump up the price further and get more bag holders to buy from them at higher prices. They'll only quit when there are more sustained sellers than buyers.

Down we go after a brief defence by insiders at a lower double-top again. Now ETH makes lower lows again.

The truth is coming out now (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13858392#msg13858392).

Double top?  Wtf...  Where?  It's been breaking out and going supernova.

Yesterday when the OP was written there was a double-top. It has since declined and is trying to find support at a lower level.

It seems many speculators are still not understanding that Ethereum can't ever work. Ever. And thus it is going back to $0. But until the speculators realize they are handing Vitalik more $millions to waste by keeping the price high so he can sell more ETH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13858392#msg13858392), then the con game can continue.

Also it seems many speculators such as yourself don't give a rat's ass about the future of Ethereum and alt-coins, and instead you only care if the pump can be sustained and you can mine your fellow speculator taking some of his money from him, while Vitalik takes some money from you all and proceeds to waste it anew.

Wat, you don't love all this trolling and drama?

I will admit, I'm underwater a little bit on some ETH but not much.  Not going to panic sell, but I don't have high hopes.  Then again, what's a little 21% drop in the world of cryptoheadaches?  I'm fucking holding until it BUYS or it FUCKING DIES.

Exactly what is turning the alt-coin arena into a cesspool:

Well yeah, that's the nature of all speculation more or less.  No need to get emotional about it, it's part of human nature to be greedy and to rip off the sucker upon whom you have both ass cheeks folded.  It's part of us whether we want to admit it or not.  Don't know if you're wrong or right, because you (TPTB) know far, far more than me about the fundamentals of cryptocurrency.  I'm just a little sucker in a pool of suckers of varying sizes.

Hahaha The Pharmacist.  :D You made my day with that.  8)


P.S. I of course make mistakes too, but they are often of the more convulted technological/marketing interactions that I missed.

This is still very high for a lot of people.  Alt coins are so fun!

ETH probably the most popular alt coin now, there are so many discussion about it.

I hope you realize that for an alt-coin that is serious and not just hype to take money from you, then it is not "fun" but instead a hell of a lot of pendantic, arduous, painstaking work (which is sort of fun for a young developer due to the challenge of it but I guarantee you it gets exhausting and not always fun if one sticks it through to the nitty gritty end).

So if you award $millions to the those who sell hype and nothing to those who work very hard, then you will get only a cesspool of hype/fraud.

I came to conclusion that the only way to rise above all of this, would be to make a project that was so clearly superior in terms of real user adoption, that there would not require any hype nor discussion whatsoever.

Aren't you the guy who keeps whining that Ethereum plus other alts are scams in the first place?

I like trading first and foremost...  Whether the coin is a scam or not, I don't care. 

Yup that is my point. You don't care.

And you say most of these altcoins are scams anyway...  So what is it to you if I don't care...

Most of the altcoin are scams, maybe 99.9% of them. But Ethereum is not a scam, it has strong development team.

Disputed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13861525#msg13861525).

Why do you post so much in every fucking topic if you don't care?

Fuck off from posting your bullshit opinion you paid troll. Go take some candy from retarded babies somewhere else.

The point is Vitalik built a 500M$ project while you did nothing except trolling a poisened forum.

You are the only one saying ETH is flawed, but there are dozends of people in Ethereum that are much more clever than you are. They will fix all flaws.
In fact you are the only one who thinks that you are clever. Most others see you as just another forum troll.
You have nothing to show. And your behavior is just pathetic.

+1

What do you care if I don't care...  And why do you care so much what I say if you think I don't care...?

Truth is poison  ???

Google for "Ethereum" right now.

The insiders are well connected with MSM and are pumping it hard. Trying to bring enough new fools in to buy.

So this means it will still go up?

That´s not truth, that´s trolling again. Where are the facts?

And Vitalik is not dealing with trolls, he is too busy. Just like you want to but you can´t, cause you are a forum addicted troll.

 ;D nice one

The problem is that the project was started with absurdly unrealistic expectations out of the gate, so even ignoring any show stopper problems that you could categorize as technical glitches to be fixed, it just can't be commercially viable.  The fact that you never saw anyone from Ethereum even mention the word "sharding" until long after it had been released, when partitioning would be required for the thing to be used by more than 2 people (yet won't even work and is the antithesis of computational redundancy anyway), is a wtf red flag itself.  They're trying to solve LOL Insane computer problems on the fly like it's a fast food restaurant.

That was my point.

Ok.

Your idols have just been REKTED (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13870882#msg13870882).

You can go cry under a rock now.

still kinda surprise me how long it took for that dump to finalize...

This is just a second chance to get in cheap.

Still, 7 days ago, 1 ETH = 2.50 USD. Today, 1 ETH = 4.23 USD. Almost 70% gains.

But still we woudn't know if ETH is done for good or what. There could be another pump though.

Notice how the vertical dump happened right after I made the post linked above. I don't know if there is a correlation. Perhaps many speculators are trying to figure out if it is really true that ETH is REKTED. I was also checking my technical analysis again to make sure I hadn't screwed up.

What is that like $150 million erased from the ETH market cap in the past 24 hours or so. Any way the market cap has to be fake. No way that writing on this forum could move $150 million in actual liquidity. Market cap obviously includes the value of all the coins, not just the volume that was traded (and I think most of the volume is insiders selling to themselves, although I can't prove that).

Wait for the sideways action before getting in.

Ok bob surplus.. Thanks for the investment advice.

Hahahahaha.  Wow...  Whatever you say bro.

What ever i say huh, ok.

How about you should be cautioning people that
1. They migt be getting into an illegal security offering and supporting it could be dangerous.
2. It is HIGHLY likely etherium will never work

Self righteous hypocrite.  You're just sourgrapes.

Damn it man, stop responding so fast.

Self Righteous Hypocrite.

Looks like the manipulators are going to be able to defend the 0.011 BTC price level. Buy the dip!

Have fun guys with this nonsense. Give Vitalik some more monopoly money to play with.

Dead cat bounce before crashing fully.  Textbook bubble.  Open your eyes guys.

Ethereum might drop a little bit. But it has risen a lot in the last month. I noticed the Monero is rising. It is quite high price now.

fluffypony et al have worked hard. Good to see the truth I revealed about ETH may be giving XMR a little boost. I am not positioned long nor short either one.

I wrote double-top then down -30%, then I wrote "buy the dip!" and it is up 25%, and get ready to sell again so we can go down again.

Isn't this yoyo fun. We are building the future for our grandchildren here. Serious accomplishments.

Sure you did...  ::)

Not yet.  But not discounting this in the future.  This is unchartered territory for ETH, so be open to any possibility.

And again my bolded prediction was true. I am controlling the price of ETH with my posts. Not very amazing, because the insiders can't pump it up when readers here are selling, which indicates there isn't much real volume (other than insiders buying from themselves) that isn't coming from this forum. Just goes to show what a cruel joke (i.e. pitiful useless PoShit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13878428#msg13878428)) this Ethereum is.

Sure you are...  ::)

oh yeah i am soooooooooooo sure that most guys paid 30 cents each ROFL

i take it you new here because you don't seem to grasp how trading works.

The simple fact that the price increased so much is crystal clear concrete proof what i just said is a fact !
It's called math kid.
Try it some time while trading it helps ;)

Hey NEWS Flash !
There is winners and losers when trading.
I know right = mind blown !

And guess what percentage of people are winners ?

Hey i am all for talking about Coin'z but please stop saying stupid shit about ETH non stop.
You guys are embarrassing yourselves..
In your glee for fanboyism and thirst for profit'z you fail miserably at your little hype campaign.

When it was launched there were tons of scammy transfers going in.. a million dollars worth.
And funny enough nobody had heard of it yet !
hmm who is that by chance ?

2 years later it explodes in price over night.. aka: a pump.

then you all join in with the paid hype advertisers shilling here because you think you can jump in & make a buck..
But problem is the way this all works is most of you will be lucky to break even.

I have seen it time after time with every bloody coin that comes along.

I also have no respect for deceitful shit peddlers who make knowingly false claims about a Pyramid Scheme coin.
Get on it scam aficionado's ..
make your bed's.
Because you will be sleeping in them soon enough Kidiots.

Hey i got a great idea !
How about i put 2 dollars in your hand so you feel confident
while i take ALL of your money later hahahahah

You guys are morons who gamble with a rigged game with seriously bad odd's.
You greedy little brats think your smarter than the pump groups ?
puuuuuhlease  ::)

Investards™ are Whale food .

Let's see how many of you line up later to say you lost money on ETH  ::)
..you deserve it idiots.

Just curious, are you buying the Ethereum when your comments suppress the Ethereum price? So that you can buy more?

He's trying to look smart.  No one here takes him seriously that's why people love trolling him.

Given that his assessment lines up with some of the smartest people in the room, I'd be careful making proclamations like that--I'd also be wary of Eth's price reflecting his and other's assessments of Eth's possibility of doing what it claims it will be able to do. Sooner or later expectations get measured against reality and playing the market (when over exuberant expectations are likely in play) is like a game of chicken with Reality in a snow storm--you know it's probably coming, but do you WHEN to change lanes?

Yep.  Plan your trades and trade your plans.

Crying Troll ..AGAIN to change the perception of reality ?
DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THAT WORKS ?
If it did work there would be far more people here.

You can't circumvent an intelligent comment with some failed half ass attempt at a witty jab at someone.
Sorry but that just doesn't invalidate someone's assertions.
The fact that you guys would even attempt that whole cliched Shitcointalk routine is hilarious.
It never fails though you guys just keep doing it.
When are going to get smart ?
When are you finally after all these years realize that calling someone names or insulting them
doesn't magically make what they said wrong ?

When you guys do that it makes you look bad.
And some of you do it a lot.. making yourself look worse & worse in time.

It's cute how the guys who spout off about others* having a bad reputation have themselves an obviously one.

You guys are a joke and the general public out there can see it clearly !
Your little veiled attempts to discredit someone as a means of invalidating their point game is never going to work.. EVER !
Yet you plow on digging..

It really doesn't matter if i am ugly and my mother dresses me funny it doesn't make your shit coin good.

All the public sees is someone bringing up a criticism and the response from Fanboys is to insult the person.
And i think you guys do that because you have the intellect of a mittful of Twigs.

As usual at Shitcointalk.org trying to have a mature meaningful conversation with greedy children is not going to work out too well.
We're gonna hear about shit coin 7,033 being Moon rise chicken lambo's from Kidiots..
And the person that does not drop to their knee's and blow the scamtards ?
Cop out time.. flop on your back & cry Troll.

I say again..

Shitcointalk.org crying Troll / FUD for bucks $$$
That is all this place is .

Make shit coin.. cry FUD / Troll and collect profits and cash out $$

You guys wonder why the general public doesn't want to get involved with this shit yet ?
I'll give you a hint.. it has nothing to do with "Potentital App's" or "Anon" features.

^ Again you speak the truth.  But at the end of the day, it's the trading game that prevails.  Why?  Because everyone in this forum is out to make some BTC.  Even the ones that appear smart and who 'care'.  And the reality is they're nothing but sourgraping, self righteous hypocrites bagholding their mined scamcoins still hoping the money will get to their direction somehow.

Everyone loves discussing ETH. I wonder who will be proven right in the end.

WRONG.

Don't assume all of us here are chasing "profits"

i'm not.. which is why i am the only guy who seems to care about honesty.
The rest of you just wan tot count your money..

PS:

Mined ?
ETH is an IPO scam coin launched unfairly .

I don't know if this is a scam/pump but all I know is I have done very well from ETH in the last week or so, been selling off at a nice profit and still holding a good stash in case things go higher.

Not all but most.  Those hypocrites should get off their high horse trying to pretend they're not chasing profits.

And yes.  Those sourgrapes who mined or bought BBQcoin or whatever stupid, worthless coin they're bagholding should stop whining crying scam this or scam that when they clearly missed the train all in the name of 'honesty'...  Please...  It's clear that most people who come here are for the profitzzz.

What a bunch of hypocrites.

The pump has increased the value of Ethereum. The foundation has more money to spend on development now. So it could be good.

It doesn't really matter if you bough yours for $5.5 or $1.5 - just keep them:
in a year from now I see the eth price around $60 (now you can laugh).


ps. I'll quote myself on Feb 16, 2017 in this thread.
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eth-price.com: eth price in USD, simple & minimal

I completely disagree.  Although it would be sweet if it continues to go up and up, it just doesn't work that way.  Your advice is a sure fire ticket to bagholder's land like what most of the people in this forum did by buying illiquid, low volume coins.

The pump has increased the awareness of Ethereum, that could in turn increase the price. But if it is too high, the price will drop.

I agree with someone else who speculated the price will probably dump down to roughly the 0.045 BTC level (half the current price) or below (probably not to $0.30 cents but maybe), then find support until the upgrade to the next version. Then they will probably hype pump it again.

It doubt anyone is going to try to challenge Ethereum in the interim time to their next upgrade. I speculate Ethereum challengers will come later in the year or next year.

I place 90% odds on ETH never being the most popular crypto currency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13916059#msg13916059), so the long-term future price of ETH is bleak.

You can create a prediction market on that in Augur when it goes online.  :D

If you really just wanted to make money, you would have shorted when I made the OP at exactly the top at double the current price. You say you don't care and just want to make money, but seems to me not. Rather you have some vested interest that the price needs to always go up.

When Augur goes on line, the price of Ethereum will rise a lot. I think that is the first big app for Ethereum.

Maybe so just because speculators are dumb or chase the price movement of the dumb herd, but fact is Augur is useless because (for as long as) Ethereum is not scalable:

You could create a prediction market for that as well.  :D