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Title: [SOLD] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
I am looking to sell my 100BTC Casascius bar. These were never loaded with BTC.

There were only 8 made that were non loaded.

To comfortably sell the 100's non loaded non 2FA as not to confuse folks, which was never done before, Mike brainstormed and came up with the idea to add a zero btc holo, place it upside down, and place a small red dot over the prefix. The hologram actually says zero btc if you look closely.

There are not many Casascius bars that come up for sale so don't miss your chance to own one.

The picture below is pulled from google, I will be getting a picture of my exact bar in the next few days when I can take a trip to where it is stored. Feel free to post or PM questions or offers.  :)

https://i.imgur.com/tcfFeR4.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/tcfFeR4.jpg)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 01:09:32 PM
I don't know of any that have been sold on bitcointalk. The bars on Ebay were sold and that seller does not have any more that will be sold from my understanding  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: yugo23 on February 12, 2016, 01:14:14 PM
Have there been other sales recently??

I know there were 2 on ebay a while back, but I do not think they sold.
They were priced around $2000.  :o

I don't understand, why would it be sold 2k$? What is the point of buying that at such a price?  :o


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: bithalo on February 12, 2016, 01:16:16 PM
Have there been other sales recently??

I know there were 2 on ebay a while back, but I do not think they sold.
They were priced around $2000.  :o

I believe miffman is selling one as well.  These bars were originally acquired by bitguy101 last year I believe direct from Casascius.  These are indeed very rare.  They are given their own page and mentioned in the upcoming Encyclopedia.

Eodguy149...any idea of price you're looking for?


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 01:25:04 PM
Have there been other sales recently??

I know there were 2 on ebay a while back, but I do not think they sold.
They were priced around $2000.  :o

I believe miffman is selling one as well.  These bars were originally acquired by bitguy101 last year I believe direct from Casascius.  These are indeed very rare.

Eodguy149...any idea of price you're looking for?

Correct, I have some provenance that can be included, he got them directly from Mike as you said.

I'm not exactly sure on a price yet but I am open to offers.   :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: miffman on February 12, 2016, 01:54:32 PM
There has been one of these sold here for sure...not mine though  ;D can't remember who had one, but I'm sure there was a sale.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: mindtrip on February 12, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
what are you asking for the bar?


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 02:23:30 PM
what are you asking for the bar?

I haven't settled on an exact price yet, there aren't a ton of public sales. Feel free to make an offer and we can go from there  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: gravitate on February 12, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
what are you asking for the bar?

I haven't settled on an exact price yet, there aren't a ton of public sales. Feel free to make an offer and we can go from there  :)

I will give you 500 US for it?

Been lopoking for one for a while. Had the chance to buy one for 300 but declined a year ago.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: mindtrip on February 12, 2016, 04:19:31 PM
I can offer $525  ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: monkeynuts on February 12, 2016, 04:30:30 PM
what are you asking for the bar?

I haven't settled on an exact price yet, there aren't a ton of public sales. Feel free to make an offer and we can go from there  :)

I will give you 500 US for it?

Been lopoking for one for a while. Had the chance to buy one for 300 but declined a year ago.

I doubt anyone was selling one of these for 300 ... maybe a redeemed 100BTC bar at that price ?

I know bitguy did not sell any of these any where near that low, and he had them all to sell. I traded for a few from him as soon as he got them.

Only 12 total existed of unfunded 100's. 8 like this, and 4 that were 2FA variants

(and there was also 1 1000BTC bar that was unfunded as well)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Poloherb on February 12, 2016, 04:31:07 PM
$600 ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: bithalo on February 12, 2016, 06:19:22 PM
$650


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Poloherb on February 12, 2016, 06:28:39 PM
700$


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: mindtrip on February 12, 2016, 06:31:45 PM
$750


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Michail1 on February 12, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
$775  (Just to get in on the thread)

Of course this isn't firm and I want to see actual pictures.   I am not interested if removed from plastic, fingerprints, scratches, dings, and obviously if the sticker is removed.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: gravitate on February 12, 2016, 07:49:33 PM
I concur with Michail but offer 900 :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: wheelz1200 on February 12, 2016, 08:55:05 PM
thinking of putting a price on it, but wondering why the price bidding is lower than a bought "void" .5BTC brass coin....just dont know how to value this with not many sales.

watching for now


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: bithalo on February 12, 2016, 09:20:38 PM
thinking of putting a price on it, but wondering why the price bidding is lower than a bought "void" .5BTC brass coin....just dont know how to value this with not many sales.

watching for now

Good question.  There 'may' have been around 12 void coins made, but of them, there are likely fewer still around that didnt get lost, thrown out, etc.  Maybe 6 left, give or take.

There were 8 of these bars made, all of which likely still remain intact, due to the fact they're unfunded and they were made about a year or so ago.

They're both very rare items and difficult to price without other previous sales.  But for reference, bitguy101 was selling his remaining non 2FA bars for about $1699 on ebay, and they all sold.  The rarer 2FA bar (only 4 made) sold for $1999 each.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Michail1 on February 12, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Have there been other sales recently??

I know there were 2 on ebay a while back, but I do not think they sold.
They were priced around $2000.  :o

Yes, about 2+ months ago.
The ones on ebay were $1500 and $1600.   They did not sell on ebay.  Seller did sell them privately, but don't know the amount, and I did offer significantly less.  (The confusion people have is ebay drones might actually think they are funded and overbid.)


I don't understand, why would it be sold 2k$? What is the point of buying that at such a price?  :o

There isn't a point.  It's just a high priced piggy bank in which you might as well get a bearer bar since these say 100BTC on them.  You wouldn't want to put more or less since it indicates 100BTC, although I doubt anyone would even put any coins into it.  So, it's a piggy bank that no one would actually use.

I concur with Michail but offer 900 :)
I would up my offer, but honestly, that is what I offered on the ebay coins.  So, without this being an auction and can't see the bar yet, I will not offer more.  :)

thinking of putting a price on it, but wondering why the price bidding is lower than a bought "void" .5BTC brass coin....just dont know how to value this with not many sales.

watching for now

More void coins made than bars.   People like coins better since they can be graded (encased).  No one really wants an unfunded 100BTC bar since they nearly have to put 100BTC in it to be called funded.  Many reasons.   VOID coins were made public and fewer people know about the bars.  Problem with pricing on the bars is that only one person got them so no real public sales.  One buyer having all of one thing means they are pretty much worthless and priceless.  He is/was smart to sell off to various people as it puts value into as being obtainable.   Various other reasons.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
thinking of putting a price on it, but wondering why the price bidding is lower than a bought "void" .5BTC brass coin....just dont know how to value this with not many sales.

watching for now

Good question.  There 'may' have been around 12 void coins made, but of them, there are likely fewer still around that didnt get lost, thrown out, etc.  Maybe 6 left, give or take.

There were 8 of these bars made, all of which likely still remain intact, due to the fact they're unfunded and they were made about a year or so ago.

They're both very rare items and difficult to price without other previous sales.  But for reference, bitguy101 was selling his remaining non 2FA bars for about $1699 on ebay, and they all sold.  The rarer 2FA bar (only 4 made) sold for $1999 each.

Oh wow, I came back to quite the bidding war!  ;D

The bar is still in the plastic wrapping. The assumption is that there are no finger prints or scratches with the protective wrapping still on the bar unless they are from Mike himself.

Considering that all of the bars sold for $1699 and are exceedingly rare that is probably around what I'm looking for. I think that 5BTC is a fair price.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Michail1 on February 12, 2016, 11:14:58 PM
They did not sell for $1699.

Good luck.    I'm out.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 12, 2016, 11:24:23 PM
They did not sell for $1699.

Good luck.    I'm out.


You purchased them?

Several unfunded bars have sold for around 5BTC. I don't think that's an unreasonable premium for a 1 of 8 Casascius.

The most recent public sale is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171146.0 that sold in less than two days for 5BTC.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: mindtrip on February 12, 2016, 11:53:55 PM
I can offer 3.5 BTC


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 13, 2016, 12:33:04 AM
I can offer 3.5 BTC

PM Sent  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Michail1 on February 13, 2016, 01:31:35 AM

You purchased them?

Several unfunded bars have sold for around 5BTC. I don't think that's an unreasonable premium for a 1 of 8 Casascius.

The most recent public sale is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171146.0 that sold in less than two days for 5BTC.


around 5BTC != 5BTC
Saying something was sold doesn't mean he got 5BTC.

Also, 5BTC less than 2 months ago would have been on target with my offer, but the BTC price has gone up since then.  Issue is you are comparing cash sale vs bitcoin sales now.

If you want 5BTC, then stick to your guns and get it.   Asking for 5BTC and then entertaining an offer of 3.5 is confusing.   I was offering cash like everyone else, but if BTC, I would have offered more.  (Not as much as mindtrip did though.)  :)

I hope you get what you want.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 13, 2016, 01:50:46 AM

You purchased them?

Several unfunded bars have sold for around 5BTC. I don't think that's an unreasonable premium for a 1 of 8 Casascius.

The most recent public sale is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171146.0 that sold in less than two days for 5BTC.


around 5BTC != 5BTC
Saying something was sold doesn't mean he got 5BTC.

Also, 5BTC less than 2 months ago would have been on target with my offer, but the BTC price has gone up since then.  Issue is you are comparing cash sale vs bitcoin sales now.

If you want 5BTC, then stick to your guns and get it.   Asking for 5BTC and then entertaining an offer of 3.5 is confusing.   I was offering cash like everyone else, but if BTC, I would have offered more.  (Not as much as mindtrip did though.)  :)

I hope you get what you want.

I'm well aware but I happen to know that it sold for the asking price in this case.

I apologize for starting the thread out with a fiat value, I was simply continuing the conversation started by bithalo. I am all in BTC personally and value all of my purchases and sales on this forum in BTC. It is easier that way since the fiat value can fluctuate so quickly especially when trying to compare historic sale prices. This forum is one of the few closed BTC systems and I like it that way.

I am not entertaining the idea of selling for 3.5BTC but if someone is willing to offer 3.5BTC perhaps there is some middle ground that can be found such as 4.5BTC + shipping. Making a counter offer to an offer is simply good business.

I'm always open to opinions or suggestions. It will be interesting to see what the market is currently willing to pay for one of these, I might be way off base.  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Michail1 on February 13, 2016, 04:47:09 AM
Making a counter offer to an offer is simply good business.

I'm always open to opinions or suggestions. It will be interesting to see what the market is currently willing to pay for one of these, I might be way off base.  :)


Yes, I am sure it sold on the high end for the bar you know of.

I agree that it's great business.

I believe you will get what you want for the bar.  :)



Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: mindtrip on February 13, 2016, 05:28:17 PM
I can offer 4.25 BTC for the bar


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: wheelz1200 on February 13, 2016, 05:51:28 PM
I can offer 4.25 BTC for the bar

solid offer.  at that price, im out


Title: Re: [SOLD] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 14, 2016, 06:34:35 AM
Sold thank you all  ;D


Title: Re: [SOLD] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Fortify on February 14, 2016, 09:24:16 AM
Sold thank you all  ;D

Well done on the sale. I was actually thinking about offering more, but didn't know you were going to choose a bidder so soon  :-[


Title: Re: [SOLD] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: Eodguy149 on February 14, 2016, 07:15:56 PM
Sold thank you all  ;D

Well done on the sale. I was actually thinking about offering more, but didn't know you were going to choose a bidder so soon  :-[

I was planning on waiting to sell it but I received a PM offer I couldn't refuse!  ;D


Title: Re: [SOLD] 100 BTC Casascius unfunded
Post by: TookDk on February 14, 2016, 09:08:19 PM
I personally think this item is very cool because it is so rare and relative "unknown".
Congrats to the new owner!