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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: ps_jb on February 13, 2016, 08:28:49 AM



Title: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 13, 2016, 08:28:49 AM
Following up the transaction with dina76:

Original Topic is here: WTS Selling 0.203 BTC for WU or PAYPAL (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1356388.0)

Upon agreement with seller I've sent by Paypal 81USD (paypal transaction fee were paid by me) for 0.22BTC offered in exchange

After getting the money seller dina76 stopped to respond on PMs and closed original topic.

I'm waiting for his response and money he is owing me



Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mexxer-2 on February 13, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
Smells like another "Send PP to me first, because you can reverse transaction if I scam" but then the seller cashes out the PP and you can't recover them, scam to me.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: Jstalk on February 13, 2016, 08:32:46 AM
You were scammed.File a PP dispute.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 13, 2016, 08:37:45 AM
You were scammed.File a PP dispute.

Looks like


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: markj113 on February 13, 2016, 08:46:52 AM
Just left him some default negative trust.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 13, 2016, 08:49:28 AM
Just left him some default negative trust.

Thank you, bro


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: target on February 13, 2016, 09:10:47 AM

Someone is selling paypal account just for $25-50 so if he bought that paypal account he then still gains few bucks after scamming.
he could once again buy a paypal account and then lure someone to pay via paypal account for more than its value of a throwaway account.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mexicantarget on February 13, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
WHY DO YOU DEAL WITH NEWBIES?

I really can't understand why in the world would people trust someone who has 10 posts in ANY forum and go first.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 13, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
WHY DO YOU DEAL WITH NEWBIES?

I really can't understand why in the world would people trust someone who has 10 posts in ANY forum and go first.

Just to clarify:

1) Status means nothing - all those scammers can make "member" for 2 weeks
2) It was a my persobal bad - do not overimpost to everybody :)


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mexxer-2 on February 13, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
1) Status means nothing - all those scammers can make "member" for 2 weeks
2) It was a my persobal bad - do not overimpost to everybody :)
1) Lol no, it takes over a month or two of constant posting to get Member. Its not posts that determine your rank, but the activity period which you made those posts in
2) Soo.. you can reverse the transaction?


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: zazarb on February 13, 2016, 05:01:27 PM
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1) Lol no, it takes over a month or two of constant posting to get Member. Its not posts that determine your rank, but the activity period which you made those posts in

not exactly.. I think between the scammer popular buy in newbie or jr. with potential activity, so theoretically two week enough to reach member rank.
   


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mexxer-2 on February 13, 2016, 05:02:39 PM

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1) Lol no, it takes over a month or two of constant posting to get Member. Its not posts that determine your rank, but the activity period which you made those posts in

not exactly.. I think between the scammer popular buy in newbie or jr. with potential activity, so theoretically two week enough to reach member rank.
   

True, but that does come with a cost. Most "unexperienced" scammers don't bother with buying an account.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: zazarb on February 13, 2016, 05:18:59 PM

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1) Lol no, it takes over a month or two of constant posting to get Member. Its not posts that determine your rank, but the activity period which you made those posts in

not exactly.. I think between the scammer popular buy in newbie or jr. with potential activity, so theoretically two week enough to reach member rank.
   

True, but that does come with a cost. Most "unexperienced" scammers don't bother with buying an account.
Well yes I talked about "more advanced" scammer ;D besides a cost such account few bucks
very little investment compared to the potential profits.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: Bestwishes745 on February 13, 2016, 07:29:41 PM
Oh shit, you just sent money to an account which was there from about a few days!!!
Only try to deal with high activity people , Try to trust on that who have at least some trust points.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: james.lent on February 14, 2016, 01:38:25 AM
Now you got to be thankful that you didn't send the funds to him via WU. Since it was paypal, you can file a charge-back.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 14, 2016, 01:57:54 AM
Now you got to be thankful that you didn't send the funds to him via WU. Since it was paypal, you can file a charge-back.
How easy is it to charge back if sent as a gift?
You hear of scammers insta-recovering their gifted $$, but they must have a trick or something to do that right?
 Your honest paypal user cannot file a complaint on a gift right?


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: james.lent on February 14, 2016, 01:59:37 AM
Now you got to be thankful that you didn't send the funds to him via WU. Since it was paypal, you can file a charge-back.
How easy is it to charge back if sent as a gift?
You hear of scammers insta-recovering their gifted $$, but they must have a trick or something to do that right?
 Your honest paypal user cannot file a complaint on a gift right?

Be it gift, or business, paypal can always be reversed. Wouldn't want to give out the techniques here as scammers would get an idea then.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: mnightwaffle on February 14, 2016, 02:02:41 AM
Well if ps_jb doesn't know how to, i'd atleast pm him how to recover it.

I need to do some research myself. I was scammed out of ~$20 paypal for digital goods (mmorpg related) a few months ago; i think it's too late to resurrect that mess,,, but just for future reference. I tried to figure out how to chargeback through navigating paypal and it appeared impossible.

If you can recover after noting payment as "For a virtual item".... that'd be a feat.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: james.lent on February 14, 2016, 02:07:01 AM
Well if ps_jb doesn't know how to, i'd atleast pm him how to recover it.

I need to do some research myself. I was scammed out of ~$20 paypal for digital goods (mmorpg related) a few months ago; i think it's too late to resurrect that mess,,, but just for future reference. I tried to figure out how to chargeback through navigating paypal and it appeared impossible.

I'll shoot you a pm.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 14, 2016, 08:15:36 AM

1) Lol no, it takes over a month or two of constant posting to get Member. Its not posts that determine your rank, but the activity period which you made those posts in
2) Soo.. you can reverse the transaction?

1) Got you

2) I'm trying. But you know PP - piece of crap


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 14, 2016, 08:16:42 AM
Oh shit, you just sent money to an account which was there from about a few days!!!
Only try to deal with high activity people , Try to trust on that who have at least some trust points.

Yes - I did

It was a big mistake

Never again


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 14, 2016, 08:19:20 AM
mnightwaffle

james.lent


Guys - please share your experience with fighting PP

Thank you!


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: james.lent on February 14, 2016, 08:47:25 AM
mnightwaffle

james.lent


Guys - please share your experience with fighting PP

Thank you!

Check your pm buddy. Best of luck recovering it back.


Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: ps_jb on February 14, 2016, 09:25:52 AM

Check your pm buddy. Best of luck recovering it back.

Got a quite useful advice from james.lent - do appreciate the help, bro!



Title: Re: Dealing with Seller dina76
Post by: james.lent on February 14, 2016, 09:36:11 AM

Check your pm buddy. Best of luck recovering it back.

Got a quite useful advice from james.lent - do appreciate the help, bro!



Glad to help, try to be a lil more cautious next time during trades.