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Title: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2010, 11:01:43 AM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox -http://www.paybox.me/r/bitcoinmedia (http://www.paybox.me/r/bitcoinmedia)

Link fixed for smoketoomuch.

Here is another one for your watchlist - SelfBank https://www.selfbankmobile.com/index.php (https://www.selfbankmobile.com/index.php)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: nelisky on October 05, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)



Hmm, why does this look like a scam to get you to fill surveys and they get paid for it? I mean, $50 for anyone + $5 a day + $5 per referrel *but* the $ does not mean dollar, it is just a virtual representation of nothing. Sure, bitcoins are nothing too, but these guys do specify you can't exchange these for anything, nor will you be able to anytime soon. Also, they have web developers on call if something is messy with the site, but no code developer to help if the internal transfer is not working? wtf? Are they not in development?


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)



Hmm, why does this look like a scam to get you to fill surveys and they get paid for it? I mean, $50 for anyone + $5 a day + $5 per referrel *but* the $ does not mean dollar, it is just a virtual representation of nothing. Sure, bitcoins are nothing too, but these guys do specify you can't exchange these for anything, nor will you be able to anytime soon. Also, they have web developers on call if something is messy with the site, but no code developer to help if the internal transfer is not working? wtf? Are they not in development?


I think its because they are in pre launch and testing mode. I thought it might be good to contact developers of new products before they came to the market.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: nelisky on October 05, 2010, 12:05:58 PM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)



Hmm, why does this look like a scam to get you to fill surveys and they get paid for it? I mean, $50 for anyone + $5 a day + $5 per referrel *but* the $ does not mean dollar, it is just a virtual representation of nothing. Sure, bitcoins are nothing too, but these guys do specify you can't exchange these for anything, nor will you be able to anytime soon. Also, they have web developers on call if something is messy with the site, but no code developer to help if the internal transfer is not working? wtf? Are they not in development?


I think its because they are in pre launch and testing mode. I thought it might be good to contact developers of new products before they came to the market.

I fully understand that, I know what it means to be in pre launch mode, but I'm just collecting the pieces... why the surveys to keep the account active? And more to the point, why only webdevelopers are available for feedback from early birds? Just makes no sense to me, really, but I'm a known and registered paranoid, guess I could be searching for something to complain about.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: idev on October 05, 2010, 12:23:54 PM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)



Hmm, why does this look like a scam to get you to fill surveys and they get paid for it? I mean, $50 for anyone + $5 a day + $5 per referrel *but* the $ does not mean dollar, it is just a virtual representation of nothing. Sure, bitcoins are nothing too, but these guys do specify you can't exchange these for anything, nor will you be able to anytime soon. Also, they have web developers on call if something is messy with the site, but no code developer to help if the internal transfer is not working? wtf? Are they not in development?


I think its because they are in pre launch and testing mode. I thought it might be good to contact developers of new products before they came to the market.

I fully understand that, I know what it means to be in pre launch mode, but I'm just collecting the pieces... why the surveys to keep the account active? And more to the point, why only webdevelopers are available for feedback from early birds? Just makes no sense to me, really, but I'm a known and registered paranoid, guess I could be searching for something to complain about.

The surveys are applicable to paybox developments and are intended for paybox users to give their ideas, suggestions and feedback about paybox services. You don't have to complete any surveys if you don't want to but you will still earn, they are paying you to be active on the site and to login each day and to refer other to earn. So far the developments are going good they have very informative road map which discloses the latest developments and updates associated paybox and they also send out regular updates of their latest features integrated into their platform. Paybox have now implemented member to member transfers into their system so now all earlybird users are able to transfer funds to one and another. Paybox will roll out more features over the coming weeks and months.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox
I registered and filled in one of their surveys. When I got to the question that said "Did you make any payments using a payment system such as PayPal?" I was looking forward to ticking the "other" box and linking to Bitcoin.

Unfortunately, the only option it gave me at that point was yes/no.

There should be a suggestion survey there for suggested features. Just fill out you want them to accept bitcoin as a payment method.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: SmokeTooMuch on October 05, 2010, 12:37:44 PM
Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)
Why don't you tell us about your referral link behind that bit.ly ? ...


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: idev on October 05, 2010, 12:41:08 PM
Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox
I registered and filled in one of their surveys. When I got to the question that said "Did you make any payments using a payment system such as PayPal?" I was looking forward to ticking the "other" box and linking to Bitcoin.

Unfortunately, the only option it gave me at that point was yes/no.

There should be a suggestion survey there for suggested features. Just fill out you want them to accept bitcoin as a payment method.

Already done my friend  ;)

Why don't you tell us about your referral link behind that bit.ly ? ...

You can use mine if you like  ;) http://www.paybox.me/r/ivest


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: SmokeTooMuch on October 05, 2010, 01:56:18 PM
No, I would have clicked it anyway and I don't have a problem with using someone's referal link if he or she is the person that showed me the thing, but hiding a referal link triggers a feel of "bad intention" in me..

Just be open and honest, like bitcoin is :P


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2010, 07:36:05 AM
No, I would have clicked it anyway and I don't have a problem with using someone's referal link if he or she is the person that showed me the thing, but hiding a referal link triggers a feel of "bad intention" in me..

Just be open and honest, like bitcoin is :P

My apologies.I fixed it for you. Some people dont like affiliate links on their forum.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 08, 2010, 03:10:56 PM
Rather than trying to get the large established payment processors such as paypal to accept bitcoin we should focus on ones that are coming to market as they might accept bitcoin in order to get more customers.

Here is one I discovered is in pre release called paybox - http://bit.ly/cLiagE (http://bit.ly/cLiagE)



Hmm, why does this look like a scam to get you to fill surveys and they get paid for it? I mean, $50 for anyone + $5 a day + $5 per referrel *but* the $ does not mean dollar, it is just a virtual representation of nothing. Sure, bitcoins are nothing too, but these guys do specify you can't exchange these for anything, nor will you be able to anytime soon. Also, they have web developers on call if something is messy with the site, but no code developer to help if the internal transfer is not working? wtf? Are they not in development?


I think its because they are in pre launch and testing mode. I thought it might be good to contact developers of new products before they came to the market.

I fully understand that, I know what it means to be in pre launch mode, but I'm just collecting the pieces... why the surveys to keep the account active? And more to the point, why only webdevelopers are available for feedback from early birds? Just makes no sense to me, really, but I'm a known and registered paranoid, guess I could be searching for something to complain about.
It is actually just a way of advertising, if they want to compete with services like paypall, moneybookers,etc. they need active users, they get new users with the referral bonuses and by paying them a small amount to be active (that's why you got to login minimal 1 time every 2 days). They than can convince companys to accept paybox as an payment method with statistics of a large active usersbase.

The surveys are usefull for the further development of paybox.
So instead of paying an extern advertising and research bureau, they pay the users. It seems a lot that they pay, but if they would pay for traditional advertising and an extern firm to get those survey results they probably would pay more for an active user and the surveyresults.

And it's not a bad idea of noagendamarket, convincing new company's like this one to accept bitcoin will be alot easier than something like paypall. And if in the worst case scenario it is a scam or they won't accept bitcoins, we didn't lose anything. If they do accept bitcoins we can only profit from it (and we even got some bucks to put in the bc economy if we change the $ for btc :D)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: BitLex on October 08, 2010, 04:00:09 PM
i fully agree to the topic, but paybox.me looks scammy to me.
my account will be inactive pretty quick, i guess,  :D
i'd even delete it right now, but i couldnt find an option todo so.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 08, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
i fully agree to the topic, but paybox.me looks scammy to me.
my account will be inactive pretty quick, i guess,  :D
i'd even delete it right now, but i couldnt find an option todo so.
Can you sent me your 50$ then, just in case it isn't a scam  :P
Username there is the same as the one I have here  :D


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: idev on October 08, 2010, 05:22:07 PM
i fully agree to the topic, but paybox.me looks scammy to me.
my account will be inactive pretty quick, i guess,  :D
i'd even delete it right now, but i couldnt find an option todo so.
Can you sent me your 50$ then, just in case it isn't a scam  :P
Username there is the same as the one I have here  :D

How much you made so far?


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: BitLex on October 08, 2010, 06:24:20 PM
if that's already possible, i would.
but i doubt that, else i'm just gonna create a few hundreds of accounts.  :D

update:
done, good luck


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 08, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
i fully agree to the topic, but paybox.me looks scammy to me.
my account will be inactive pretty quick, i guess,  :D
i'd even delete it right now, but i couldnt find an option todo so.
Can you sent me your 50$ then, just in case it isn't a scam  :P
Username there is the same as the one I have here  :D

How much you made so far?
Made $62.07 and sended $1 as a test so at the moment I have $61.07.

If they stick with the planning I can (hopefully) convert those to btc next year in December.  :P
Quote
Stage 10
Target Timeframe: December 5, 2011 - January 9, 2012
Launch PayBox currency exchange, allowing for open exchange with all major world currencies. This will enable users to convert their PayBox account balance (or any portion thereof) to any major world currency for withdrawal, or convert back for deposit.





Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: BitLex on October 08, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
aah, now i got it, it's not USD, its PBD.  ;)
anyway, i sent you my 50whatever$ and 2.21 i "earned" today.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 08, 2010, 06:40:13 PM
if that's already possible, i would.
but i doubt that, else i'm just gonna create a few hundreds of accounts.  :D

update:
done, good luck
Received it, sended you a btc donation, so at least 1 person earned something with it :P


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 08, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
Quote
All account balances are held in PayBox currency. PayBox maintains a currency that is autonomous and independent of all nations and governments. The PayBox currency is denominated in dollars and cents (similar to the currency of the United States and over 20 other countries). The PayBox currency is currently in a closed system, and cannot be exchanged or spent. Before long we plan to open our currency to be spent and exchanged just as you can with any other currency. Our plans include person-to-person transactions (via the Internet and over cell phone text messages), integration with merchants and shopping cart systems, debit card transactions (through an issued debit card linked to your account), and more. The value of our currency is estimated to be close to that of the U.S. dollar. As is the case with any currency, once the PayBox currency becomes openly exchangeable, its value as weighted against other world currencies can and will fluctuate due to forces beyond our control.

yup, they're worthless  :P


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 09, 2010, 12:20:49 AM
I'll send my balance of 50 Paybox dollars to anyone who wants it in exchange for 50 bitcoins.

lol any takers?

http://www.paybox.me/blog/ (http://www.paybox.me/blog/) things seem to be coming along and they might be having a prize contest?

In truth the more competition there is for paypal the better for consumers. Keep submitting answers to their surveys with bitcoin mentions!

This survey is the one where you can mention bitcoin
 The Perfect Online Payment Processor http://www.paybox.me/opinion-surveys.php?id=00005 (http://www.paybox.me/opinion-surveys.php?id=00005)


They also have a job section in case you are looking-
http://www.paybox.me/jobs-employment.php?id=j0004 (http://www.paybox.me/jobs-employment.php?id=j0004)



Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 09, 2010, 11:40:16 AM
I filled in the survey mentioned by noagendamarket with my view of the perfect payment processor, and offcourse mentioned bitcoins. :)

If enough people do this, we make a good change they accept them and like noagendamarket said, the more competition for paypall the better and if we can get one to accept us the rest will follow eventually :)



Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: SmokeTooMuch on October 09, 2010, 02:28:58 PM
there is a survey ?


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 10, 2010, 03:15:45 AM
there is a survey ?

Yes there are a few surveys. The one Im talking about asks you for feedback on the ultimate payment processor.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: SmokeTooMuch on October 10, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
where to take part ?


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2010, 03:29:27 AM
where to take part ?


If youre signed in you can use this link to find it I think.
http://www.paybox.me/opinion-surveys.php?id=00005


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2010, 03:21:29 AM
This one is coming soon-

https://www.selfbankmobile.com/index.php (https://www.selfbankmobile.com/index.php)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Gavin Andresen on October 19, 2010, 02:30:27 PM
This looks pretty interesting (in the US):  http://www.paynearme.com/
Print out a payment slip on a website, walk into a store and finalize payment in cash, website merchant gets immediately notified.

From their Terms of Service:  "Please do not confuse our PayNearMe payment service with use of a credit card, debit card or pre-paid/loaded card. There is no extension of credit. And since there is no credit extended, there is no ability to challenge or cancel the transaction through a chargeback procedure."


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: nelisky on October 19, 2010, 02:48:44 PM
This looks pretty interesting (in the US):  http://www.paynearme.com/
Print out a payment slip on a website, walk into a store and finalize payment in cash, website merchant gets immediately notified.

From their Terms of Service:  "Please do not confuse our PayNearMe payment service with use of a credit card, debit card or pre-paid/loaded card. There is no extension of credit. And since there is no credit extended, there is no ability to challenge or cancel the transaction through a chargeback procedure."


Although it is US only, afaict, if someone is willing to accept PP from us not US based but with good rep (or wire, but I'm assuming 0% fee personal PP transfer from PP balance) and convert to this with a fee, or the other way around, I'm certainly interested in seeing it supported.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2010, 01:37:29 AM
http://www.paysafecard.com/uk/ (http://www.paysafecard.com/uk/)

http://www.ukash.com/au/en/home.aspx (http://www.ukash.com/au/en/home.aspx)




These are all possible ways to expand the service.


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Drifter on October 20, 2010, 01:39:45 AM
https://www.moneypak.com/ Can be used online to reload prepaid debit cards OR load onto Paypal.

Paypal without the chargeback ;)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2010, 02:09:32 AM
https://www.moneypak.com/ Can be used online to reload prepaid debit cards OR load onto Paypal.

Paypal without the chargeback ;)

Oh Nice! These payment methods would be great integrated into one website which let people sell their bitcoins. They could get the cash out using paypal....and the site would get cash in via these methods to stop chargebacks.

*pokes mt gox


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2010, 07:52:57 AM
Just discovered this from paybox-

http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php (http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php)

Looks like a classifieds site for spending paybox.me dollars ?   :)

Would anyone sell paybox dollars for bitcoins or vice-versa?



Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: idev on October 20, 2010, 10:46:33 PM
Just discovered this from paybox-

http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php (http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php)

Looks like a classifieds site for spending paybox.me dollars ?   :)

Would anyone sell paybox dollars for bitcoins or vice-versa?



I was thinking about this too,  ;)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: skull88 on October 21, 2010, 08:31:57 PM
Just discovered this from paybox-

http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php (http://www.paybox.me/shop/index.php)

Looks like a classifieds site for spending paybox.me dollars ?   :)

Would anyone sell paybox dollars for bitcoins or vice-versa?


I would buy bitcoins for paybox dollars, just not the other way around.  :)


Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 04:19:49 AM
If anyone's still interested in paybox.me I'll send them my PB $170 balance in return for 17 bitcoins.

Deal!  :D   Where do I send the coins?
I just want to say Im the first to buy paybox cash with bitcoins lol.

They have a new competition to design a debit card http://www.paybox.me/debit-cards/ (http://www.paybox.me/debit-cards/)

   1. $1,000 prize to the user with the top voted design.
   2. $100 prize for voting. Improve your chances with each vote.


Perhaps one of the graphic designers on this forum could come up with something and we could all vote for their design?











Title: Re: New payment processors coming to market.
Post by: thomas_kunkel on July 18, 2018, 11:45:46 AM
This looks like an advertising of a scam site.