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What is that supposed to be?

Here's my take: The "backdoor" already exist on Apple devices, but Apple is publicly alluding that such doesn't already exist so to appease its current and future customer base. Brilliant!

No idea? But I would resist forced decryption or "back dooring" software with all my might. If we loose encryption we loose everything.

"Trump argued vehemently that Apple should help investigators crack the phone’s encryption system"
F-ing Nazi.

so far i thik just Donald Trump who mentioning bitcoin when he campaign,and ts make some people start to believe it,and i'm sure many people who love bitcoin start to consider for support trump,but i think its not guarante anything,we still dont know,is trump will keep his word until he elected,or just his promise with bitcoin,only for campaign.

This guy is a danger for the world peace. If he become president then he will order to implement a backdoor in each technical device.
It would probably help Bitcoin and co but most people do not know about such alternatives.

Two things:

1)  I believe (could be wrong) that the FBI wants access to iPhones when there is a court order.  The iPhone in question was used by a San Bernardino terrorist.  Apparently (?) the FBI cannot get in...  With a court order, I have no problem with the FBI on that.  Apple should be allowed, however, to encrypt however they want.  Look at what happened to CISCO (losing the confidence of overseas customers) once they gave away their encryption keys to .gov.  Note that the FBI/Apple issue NOW is this case, not a BACKDOOR (allowing an easy automatic system for .gov to get in).

2)  The time will be coming soon when each of us may have to (or want to) do some encryption of our own.  Different means of encryption would make it harder for our privacy to be invaded.

Unfortunately what they want would jeopardize every iPhone. There is no breaking just one phone, it's all or nothing.

IMO, that time is here. I only buy unlocked phones then use strong encryption. Tools like surespot are awesome!

I think you are correct. I saw the notice from the Apple CEO, and my take is that the FBI wants a tool that could be used on every Iphone, and we're just supposed to trust them to abide by legalities and not abuse their power. Once Apple created such a tool and handed it over to anyone else, of course, it would be out of Apple's control how the software gets used. Or even copied and given to other parties, intentionally or by theft. Think of where this can of worms could go. I have a lot of problems with Apple, but I am glad they are resisting the American regime on this one.

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If the FBI (NSA, etc.) does indeed want a General Backdoor (that would allow them to remotely unlock any iPhone at will for example), well then of course I would be strongly against that.  They have no business having such access just so they can go on fishing expeditions...  Or harass any opponents, real or imagined. 

Also, if Apple gives ANYONE a key to the Backdoor, then they would give it to the Russians and the Chinese as well.  Apple would thereby eliminate some of their market.

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I agree that the time comes when ordinary citizens ought consider getting educated in basic encryption (and using it), and the more variation the better.

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In the case of Bitcoin, the more people protect themselves, and the more services offering some protection (bitmixer.io for example), the better.

Its the same vibe I get when Apple grandstands in the public forum. Majority would eat it up till told different.
Is it even possible to hold out!

North Korea developed its own operating system that sends details of everything someone does on his computer back to the state, including sending selected files. A General Backdoor in an iPhone is one small step towards the same big brother system that North Korea's using. There are more bad totalitarian reasons for adding a backdoor than good law enforcement ones.

We haven't seen the government really go after bitcoin or bitcoin service providers.
If more and more services lean towards the 'dark' side, we might force the government to take a call.

If Gavin and Mike Hearn had their way with XT, we would have had these backdoors in place already with Bitcoin. Luckily common sense won out at the end, and people were warned early to steer clear from that implementation. We should guard against these things and not trust proprietary third party services doing this without our knowledge.

Mr Mc Donald's Trump should seriously look into the real value of Bitcoin, namely transparent governance / tenders.     

Even if he will become president I still don't think Bitcoin will be first priority.

Those are my thoughts and concerns also. I think advocates for breaking encryption have been very disingenuous and deliberately confusing about this. I keep hearing that this is about one phone and one piece of software, but ask them if you can have that one piece of software when they are done and see what happens.
What happens when China wants my phone? Only they can protect me from the terror that is freedom. They should get my phone also. And what about pedophiles? Am I one? How will you know until you can access all my phone calls and messages?
The governments assertion that I have no right to have a private conversation is ludicrous and unconstitutional. I actually saw someone on the news defending the government by noting that the constitution only protects your "papers" and since these are not on paper it's ok to steal them. 

I just printed out my passwords on paper. How do you like me now?  >:(

These people are scared into submission with scare tactics used in mainstream media. You see terrorist headlines in every newspaper and millions

and even billions are spend to stop them... but so far they still succeed in using gorilla tactics to blow up buildings and shooting people in the streets.

There has been no physical proof that Bitcoin was connected to terrorists, but you have seen several articles and websites saying there is a link.  ::)

There are already backdoors in Apple and Microsoft products. Look it up. If you want privacy and security, get and use Linux. Many kinds are very user-friendly. My grandmom uses Linux Mint, which has the look and feel of Windows 7, but is much more secure and doesn't have MS backdoors.

Government intrusion is going to be a growing problem. Obama, under his "I will have the most transparent administration ever" promise, has led the most intrusive government spying effort on US citizens in the history of the US. Bush (a moderate) did it too, but Obama has vastly expanded its scope.

If you want politicians who hate big banks and like Bitcoin, Ron Paul and Rand Paul are your guys. Pretty much any libertarian will like Bitcoin. The most resolutions and/or statements favoring Bitcoin from US politicians have come from libertarians and anti-establishment conservatives (since they hate big goverment and control systems, like the Fed banks).

As for Trump, he's in this for himself. He's saying what people want to hear in order to get elected (who would have thought?). He was a liberal 2 years ago, and now he's conservative? Doubtful. Conservatives don't like big government or big banks. Republicans might, but conservatives don't. They are not the same.

Regarding the backdoor on Apple devices and Windows OS, it is very dangerous because criminals/foreign secret services can get easy access to these devices as well should the access keys be stolen/leaked. Actually if you can prove it already exist, you can sue Apple or Microsoft for a lot of money succesfuly world wide imo.

I don't even need to click on that link to know that it has nothing to do with Bitcoin and he doesn't explicitly mention Bitcoin, so this is just a clickbait title by OP.

Drump is a fool and only wants to gain fame, anyone voting for him is an idiot and im not saying the alternatives are a lot better with that.

Remember The Fappening?  yes that's probably proof backdoor already exist. Trump may just want to check the penis of that terrorist whether its circumcised or not.

Well, Donald Trump clearly needs to do more research on the matter in my honest opinion.

For clarification, here is the request. Obviously much more is being sought than access to a single cell phone.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/C6F4/production/_88323905_69c5da3b-1a01-4748-b10a-2ce6e9319284.png

And this from the same people who have regularly broken the law and violated our right to privacy. I am no longer willing to take our intelligence apparatus at their word. They have violated the public trust and should have their efforts resisted. All this is their own damn fault. It is their wrongdoing, as shown by Edward Snowden and others that destroyed the public's faith in law enforcement.

Now is the time for us to go dark. 

I guess public ledger. You know that all transactions in bitcoin are public, and bitcoin is pseduo-anonymous, not anonymous as many think?