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Title: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: sase007 on February 18, 2016, 12:31:42 AM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: onepix on February 18, 2016, 01:51:07 AM
I haven't used the site but it sounds like a scam, did they tell you how they plan to generate 12% annually?


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Amph on February 18, 2016, 07:40:49 AM
it's not among these, but it can be one of those under different name https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928263

so i would avoid it like the plague


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 18, 2016, 10:12:27 AM
It's a scam. I don't know what it is and I don't care, anything giving you out 12% of interest on btc is a scam.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: mocacinno on February 18, 2016, 10:20:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985419.0

Apperantly, it's rumored to be owned by JUA. I've heared mixed things about them.
Personally, i wouldn't use their service (to much risk of a scam/ponzi), but i guess in the end it's up to you.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: twister on February 18, 2016, 10:28:07 AM
The question you have to ask yourself, can I trust this company to not do an exit scam when it has enough funds? The answer to that would be "No, you cannot", sending money to such sites is almost same as handing money to a stranger of which you know nothing about.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: NeuroticFish on February 18, 2016, 10:29:31 AM
It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily.

You may be able to get more than that with rather small effort on Poloniex lending area. And it feels more legit too.



Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 18, 2016, 10:49:22 AM
The question you have to ask yourself, can I trust this company to not do an exit scam when it has enough funds? The answer to that would be "No, you cannot", sending money to such sites is almost same as handing money to a stranger of which you know nothing about.

The question you have to ask to yourself is also "do i need a bank" and the answer is clearly no ^^


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: InceptionCoin on February 18, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
it's not among these, but it can be one of those under different name https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928263

so i would avoid it like the plague
Thank you, nice list.
It's a scam. I don't know what it is and I don't care, anything giving you out 12% of interest on btc is a scam.
Well Poloniex lending service with 70% atm and 20% average profit is not scam. I mean there are risks of insolvency, however you know the source of profits: traders, so at least its not a Ponzi scheme.
Bitfinex lending service is much safer(you even can see on which specificially BTCaddress your funds are, because they store it separately), but there much smaller rates: from 11% to 25% annually.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: HeroCat on February 18, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
It sounds like scam site, there are a lot of many BTC scam sites everywhere. It is very hard to say is it BTC site, which offer profit or scam.  ;)


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: -XXIII- on February 18, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
I don't know if I would trust this. Is the "+220,000.00BTC" raised with "+51,000" investors information that should be publicly available? I don't know, but a company that started mid-2015 that raised over 90millionUSD without anyone knowing is a little suspicious to me.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: romero121 on February 18, 2016, 11:50:18 PM
Most users has quoted the particular site to be a scam. So before getting into it be very cautious. I too personally have never come across such a site. Some one might enter into it searching for bitcoin as the words have close relation.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: gentlemand on February 19, 2016, 02:47:04 AM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Herbert2020 on February 19, 2016, 07:32:14 AM
even if it were not a total scam i would have suggested you to stay away from these type of services. because if they have not planned on scamming ahead, they will turn to scam sooner or later and you will be left without a satoshi and nowhere to go.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Cyaren on February 19, 2016, 07:33:43 AM
Most bitcoin banks are either not worth it for the hassle or ponzi schemes. I suggest you invest in P2P lending, much higher returns.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: ctlaltdefeat on February 19, 2016, 07:42:59 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985419.0

Apperantly, it's rumored to be owned by JUA. I've heared mixed things about them.
Personally, i wouldn't use their service (to much risk of a scam/ponzi), but i guess in the end it's up to you.
I just checked the site, and see several features like interest that they offer reasonable enough, can't see any sign of scam there.
But well according to your thread that you mentioned above , i guess they are scam .
Very unfortunate their domain are really good but used for bad things .


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Patatas on February 19, 2016, 11:10:51 AM
I think they're faking the stats mentioned on their website ,the collected and distributed amounts.If you look at their support and contacts section,they haven't registered themselves as a legal company to suffice the methods mentioned on the webpage.I'm not saying they're cheating or scamming people but they don't have a solid proof why we should trust them.For now I would ask you invest a small amount like very small and see they work,get to know how much they pay back based on your daily intrests .ask other investors on the same site of their experience.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 19, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
I don't know if I would trust this. Is the "+220,000.00BTC" raised with "+51,000" investors information that should be publicly available? I don't know, but a company that started mid-2015 that raised over 90millionUSD without anyone knowing is a little suspicious to me.


Didn't see that xD

That's impossible. If that was the case that would have been known here already ;)


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Kalamsid on February 19, 2016, 12:09:10 PM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.

For the time being, the "bitcoin banks" are not regulated, so they are mostly scams. In the future, we will have proper banks.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 19, 2016, 12:12:10 PM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.

For the time being, the "bitcoin banks" are not regulated, so they are mostly scams. In the future, we will have proper banks.

BUT WHY??

Why do people want to have banks this much?? Why would you need it? Oo


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: ranochigo on February 19, 2016, 12:15:32 PM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.

For the time being, the "bitcoin banks" are not regulated, so they are mostly scams. In the future, we will have proper banks.
"Bitcoin Banks" are either a ponzi scheme or scam which is pretty much the same. Banks based on Bitcoins are very hard to regulate and it is hard for them to lend out without the extremely high chances of borrowers defaulting. This would only change if those banks are allowed to have secure loans. They would still not be called a bank, they would be called lenders.

Bitcoin itself is a bank, there is no need for a service to act as a bank.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Lutzow on February 19, 2016, 12:24:31 PM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.

For the time being, the "bitcoin banks" are not regulated, so they are mostly scams. In the future, we will have proper banks.
"Bitcoin Banks" are either a ponzi scheme or scam which is pretty much the same. Banks based on Bitcoins are very hard to regulate and it is hard for them to lend out without the extremely high chances of borrowers defaulting. This would only change if those banks are allowed to have secure loans. They would still not be called a bank, they would be called lenders.

Bitcoin itself is a bank, there is no need for a service to act as a bank.

Any bitcoin doubler can run a virtual bank and give you interest . Invest at your own risk, bitcoin bank is not needed for now.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: gregyoung14 on February 19, 2016, 12:38:14 PM
bitcoin + bank = scam pretty much without fail. Stick interest levels like that on top then it's in the goddamn bag.

For the time being, the "bitcoin banks" are not regulated, so they are mostly scams. In the future, we will have proper banks.
"Bitcoin Banks" are either a ponzi scheme or scam which is pretty much the same. Banks based on Bitcoins are very hard to regulate and it is hard for them to lend out without the extremely high chances of borrowers defaulting. This would only change if those banks are allowed to have secure loans. They would still not be called a bank, they would be called lenders.

Bitcoin itself is a bank, there is no need for a service to act as a bank.

Any bitcoin doubler can run a virtual bank and give you interest . Invest at your own risk, bitcoin bank is not needed for now.

Really am tempted now to signup. Thanks for the note btw. Bitcoin banks are not needed, not now atleast.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: EdenHazard on February 21, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
its just a website,not like konvenstional banks,take a risk to invest on untrusted site is not my choice,need more than 2 years experience to make sure i'm invest in good and legit site.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: erikalui on February 21, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
Ponzi website. Nobody will offer 12% interest as that's an amount banks cannot afford and mostly HYIPs offer such a rate to get more customers. I wouldn't trust any online bank for my money (not even payment processors) and keep my money for a year. Had a bad experience with LR already.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: elloco4ever on February 21, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
its just a website,not like konvenstional banks,take a risk to invest on untrusted site is not my choice,need more than 2 years experience to make sure i'm invest in good and legit site.

Yes dont take risk and make sure you dont invest on any untrusted entities and there are hell lot of scammers


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: redsn0w on February 21, 2016, 06:05:29 PM
This sticker is worth more than thousand of words :

https://telegram.org/file/811140750/1/KwtOAxwo1SA/452620c767366798d3


Bitcoin bank  ;D  ?


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Supercrypt on February 21, 2016, 07:08:39 PM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
its just a website,not like konvenstional banks,take a risk to invest on untrusted site is not my choice,need more than 2 years experience to make sure i'm invest in good and legit site.
Even if the website is working for 2 years, how can trust it to invest your money? Through online reviews? Online reviews are mainly fake and even images, proofs can be easily faked. It took me a long time to trust even PayPal when it's recognized by my bank and hence I would trust a bitcoin bank when bitcoins aren't themselves recognized.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 22, 2016, 12:30:15 AM
This sticker is worth more than thousand of words :

https://telegram.org/file/811140750/1/KwtOAxwo1SA/452620c767366798d3


Bitcoin bank  ;D  ?

What? Do you think it's stupid because btc was invented with the main purpose of no longer needing unreliable third party that keep sucking your possession while using your own money to grow their capital? Well, maybe :3


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: redsn0w on February 22, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
This sticker is worth more than thousand of words :

https://telegram.org/file/811140750/1/KwtOAxwo1SA/452620c767366798d3


Bitcoin bank  ;D  ?

What? Do you think it's stupid because btc was invented with the main purpose of no longer needing unreliable third party that keep sucking your possession while using your own money to grow their capital? Well, maybe :3


Yeah, exactly.... I don't need a bank when I have/own bitcoin ;).


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: gentlemand on February 22, 2016, 08:33:57 PM

Really am tempted now to signup. Thanks for the note btw. Bitcoin banks are not needed, not now atleast.

So bitcoin banks aren't needed, but blatant ponzis are.

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Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: mtnsaa on February 22, 2016, 10:52:28 PM
Dude, that's a complete scam and every other site like that it's a sure way to lose money, sooner or later, I would say sooner. If you want to get some interest out of your BTC stash I suggest lending it on Poloniex. I know having money on exchanges is not advisable but daily traders have to do it all the time. They are very reliable but I know, all exchanges are reliable until they are not.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: DropsOfJupiter on February 23, 2016, 08:59:29 AM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
The website is registered by a Chinese company based in Guang Dong, China.
Bank of China prohibits any banking or financial institutions from providing any Bitcoin related services. So to answer your question, this appears illegitimate.



Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 23, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
Dude, that's a complete scam and every other site like that it's a sure way to lose money, sooner or later, I would say sooner. If you want to get some interest out of your BTC stash I suggest lending it on Poloniex. I know having money on exchanges is not advisable but daily traders have to do it all the time. They are very reliable but I know, all exchanges are reliable until they are not.

Do you earn a decent amount with poloniex lending?


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Haswell on February 23, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
The website is registered by a Chinese company based in Guang Dong, China.
Bank of China prohibits any banking or financial institutions from providing any Bitcoin related services. So to answer your question, this appears illegitimate.



There is no regulated bitcoin "bank" in the world. A bank has to be insured. If an entity calls it a bank, it is a scam.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: tiggytomb on February 23, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
Stay away, just like many other sites offering interest on your bitcoin they simply cannot do it and will at some point fold up and run away with your hard earned BTC


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: craked5 on February 23, 2016, 04:05:52 PM
Stay away, just like many other sites offering interest on your bitcoin they simply cannot do it and will at some point fold up and run away with your hard earned BTC

Well the only fair and reliable bank here are the trading plateform with a margin funding service :p


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: gentlemand on February 23, 2016, 04:09:20 PM

Well the only fair and reliable bank here are the trading plateform with a margin funding service :p

Coinbase, Gemini and Itbit are the only exchanges as far as I know that insure your coins if they're hacked at their end. Funnily enough none of the margin sites are.

They do have an incentive not to disappear with your coins but hacks happens and you'll be relying on their goodwill and profitability to get them back. They're not risk free.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: ashkanb on March 21, 2016, 09:26:32 AM
i did some digging on them a few months ago but i don't remember much details.

all i remember is that bitbank, jua and bw.com are all affiliates of the CHBTC.com a big chinese exchange.
i have no clue to how safe and reliable they are but i've been keeping a bit of coins at my bw.com wallet which gives penny worth of interest daily.
it seems to be ok but its not worth the risk;
for a while now i've been considering moving what i have on bw to poloniex and lend it, just haven't had the time to look into it;


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: alyssa85 on March 21, 2016, 05:36:11 PM
12% interest falls into the Too Good To Be True category.

In order for someone to pay you interest, they need to be able to generate that money. Does their website say how they do it?


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 25, 2016, 02:14:23 PM
I found a site bitbank.com while fiddling with domain names through boardom. It offers 12% interest on annual fixed amounts or 0.02% daily. Is this site a scam or leitimate.

I want to know of only people who have used it or can offer advice on its validity.
look like nice and great site,but i dont think if they offer 12% interest on annual fixed amounts,then they will long life,maybe sometime the offers going down. i just suggest you to beware and keep deposite with small amount.


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: Straux on March 26, 2016, 01:43:52 AM
You don't need a bitcoin bank. To be honest, if you use a cold wallet or a trezor/Ledger wallet, it will be as safe as a bank.

Invest in bitmixer.io if you have the funds


Title: Re: I found a bitcoin bank but want to check its validity.
Post by: lissandra on March 26, 2016, 02:10:44 AM
You don't need a bitcoin bank. To be honest, if you use a cold wallet or a trezor/Ledger wallet, it will be as safe as a bank.

Invest in bitmixer.io if you have the funds

This is probably the best advice.

Most people miss it too, since on their homepage its overlooked. They are always looking for investors.. so yeah better that then a new site.

But know their starting minimum is 100 btc.