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This question has crossed my mind several times. signature campaigns must have paid out hundreds of BTC's by now,but how much profit did they generate to the hosters? what do you guys think?

We should think logically , if they don't make profit then why would they keep giving money to people just like that ? they simply won't .
Bitmixer for example make probably a decent amount because their fees depends on how much BTC you are mixing , same goes for Gambling (I don't know any competitors to PrimeDice myself) .
Now for exchange like Bit-x , It would be hard to tell because personally I don't know any one using Bit-x for Trading , and they shutdown their cloud mining services lately so .. who knows , but if they are running their campaign for more then a year it should be going well for them.

Yea, I think so. For a service to pay for this kind of advertisement, if they are not profiting from it, then why are they even wasting their money on running such campaign.
Afaik, as long as they get some clicks or visits on their site, even if someone does not use the service I think they can still generate income from this.

If im not wrong fastdice posted on his signature campaign and said they received thousands of registered users since the campaign were open ;)
So yeah, it is still profitable and they don't hesitate to pay us hundreds of BTC because in the end they will receive more than they invested in the first place :P
And signature campaigns brings this forum to the top as there are many users here were looking for a work ;)

Why would people run dozen of these ATM on this website, if there was not response to these campaigns?

Sure they work, it s all about targeted market.

They are promoting on the most popular crypt-currency forum with more than 150k daily page views and out of it 50k are unique.They actually cannot get any better deal than this in terms of advertizing and as well as budget cause most of them don't require more than 1 bitcoin a week.
http://www.siteworthtraffic.com/report/bitcointalk.org

Very targeted ads on the most active Bitcoin site, it's hard to see how that wouldn't work.
Unless it's badly managed (I think it would be very unlikely), sites would stop the campaign or the payouts.

The results always varies, so some get good amount of visitors/impressions to their site in exchange for running signature campaigns (if they have an interesting site) and some turn out to be a complete failure (mainly due to unpopular websites). In terms of profit, only those old campaigns could answer since their the only one who have been running their campaign, mostly due to the amount of profit they've earned from advertising in this forum alone but IMO as long as they get passive outcome, they will continue to promote somehow.

I would have to imagine that if they weren't getting a decent ROI, they wouldn't do it.  Add to that this site's high volume of traffic, its target market/demo, etc., and you have a pretty sweet deal as compared to buying text ads, etc. from google or the like.

There've been enough that've fallen by the wayside to prove that it isn't viable for all. I don't understand the economics of somewhere like Bit-x that has been paying out tons for a long time when the less used exchanges aren't exactly going to be rolling in it. They must know something we don't though.

When you consider the cost of professional PR, google ads and online advertising elsewhere then the expense is justifiable for the right operation. You're not going to get a better audience than here for a BTC focused business.

Before I joined the Yobit signature campaign I had never heard of Yobit.  But now I've been to their site several times and would consider using them for trading.  So I can see the benefit to them.  Plus the main benefit is the advertising for all that see the posts with Yobit on it.

Take a look on those signature campaigns that running for over a year now, just like bit-x. Do you think the campaign will be still active if its  not profitable at all? But well if you are still not satisfied with answers here, you can contact those site owners/campaign managers for some technical details that may satisfy you :D As for my experience, sig campaigns really help me to be informed on some sites that I am not aware of and made me try a certain program on the sig ad, I am not the only one like that definitely, on that note that will become profitable for the owners

I think it depends in their budget if the site is earning more than 1 bitcoin per week it will be profitable.
And i think promoting your website here using signature can get high quality backlinks and it helps a lot to spread it fast all over the web.. Because this forum is open source.. So they can make lots of traffic daily by promoting it via signature campaign..

it is all about number of impressions I think with the unit CPM
sometimes signature campaigns are the cheapest way of advertising your service on a forum. just click on the link under your post which leads to the bid page for the ads on forum. here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364664.0

right now the highest bid is 1BTC for 1 slot which means you pay 1BTC so on each page of the forum there is 1 out of 10 chance that your add shows up on that page and only once on top. (which is a good deal for 2.6mil impressions (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats) in comparison to other forums and ad spaces but that is another topic)

meanwhile signature campaigns sometimes pay the same amount, sometimes less, sometimes more for these "impressions".

so it is the question of whether or not advertising in general works for them. not only signature campaigns. and to answer that you should ask them to give you some stats on where is their traffic, or user sign ups come from. and since they keep these kind of stats and signature campaigns are still going on successfully, I have to say they were effective enough.

When I have this question in my mind, i ask myself : why should a famous company advertise itself on tv? It is already known by everyone (Samsung, car companies, famous gambling plateform...etc)
Well all of them is making money so more ads more profits imo, if they didn't make money they would stopped their activities from a  long time  :) (same goes for sig comp)

I was wondering about the same thing, as I've recently joined my first signature campaign. I have known they exists since I joined bitcointalk, I just didn't know it pays that much for doing the thing I do anyway: posting!
And as any other advertising, they wouldn't do it if it wouldn't generate profit.

You could use an existing signature campaign with your own referral link, so you can see exactly how much visitors and possible earnings it generates. Of course you can't do this while you are in an active campaign, as the referral can't be changed when you're in a campaign.

Signature campaigns are usually a very effective form of advertising for advertiser compared to the forum ad slot. The forum ad slot costs 1BTC+ for a week. Signature campaign pays up to 0.0013 per post and the campaign managers would only pay for constructive posts or even posts in specific sections. People would be inclined to read post that are constructive to the topic and take note of the signature. Arguably, it isn't 100% better than ad slots. There are plugins to block those signatures and an option to block all signatures, not all users use them.

For campaigns such as yobit who attracts lots of spam posters, the advertising would likely to have an adverse effect.

In my opinion, if signature campaigns weren't profitable for the company, they will close them. This forum has a very high target of anything related to cryptocoins, also it has a large amount of gamblers. An important part of campaigns are casinos, that earn a lot of money (bitcoins) from its users. If you start a casino and have good games or promotions, you will win users with a signature campaign on this forum.

You can see how much a signature campaign was impact on the company by looking at the continuation of the signature campaign itself, if the company still running the sig campaign that means that it is profitable on their company (even a little). But there's also some company that has stopped their sig campaign because it didn't give a good impact on the company itself, that's why they have to stop them.
The point is, usually signature campaign is profitable enough for the people who host them.

as wins a member of this forum to subscribe to these sites?

they must be profitable for their owners, otherwise they would have stopped a very long time ago. Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns was created in 2014 and they must have been active before that so more than two years of profitability

signature campaigns is all about marketing so you any comapany need promotion so it is very profitable ;) for all of them

There is no guarantee that signature campaigns will give profits, but it is how marketing and promotion works. Site's owner needs to promote their site as effective as they can in order to get visitors. There were some signature campaigns last year, just alive for less than a month. It means that their signature campaign was not profitable for them. But there are also some signature campaigns that running for long time, it means that that the signature campaign is still profitable (at least still give positive effects to the site)

Not only they are profitable, they are getting a better deal than Google, Facebook ad.
What they get here is intended,concentrated audience with high conversion rate.
Also they claim they are supporter of Bitcoin community, which is quite true as well.
It is a win win situation. The only regret I have us I should join one earlier.

Yeah that makes sense. but i wonder how much they profit in terms of %? for example if they pay 1 BTC and get 2 BTC revenue from clicks,if ad campaigns are that profitable maybe every gambling site should host them

We have seen mostly betting and gambling signature campaigns are most fast profitable at the moment (from zero to profit), but also campaigns like bitx and themerkle which I'm currently i think will bring lots of visitors and the popularity of the website and ranking will increase too, so there is a profit.