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Title: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: -XXIII- on February 20, 2016, 08:36:51 PM If it's of any interest to anyone here, I created a betmoose proposition:
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/canada-cannabis-legalized-before-2017-1655 Quote "We will remove marijuana consumption and incidental possession from the Criminal Code [of Canada]" Will the Liberals be able to fulfill their promise before the end of 2016? Place your bets, or argue your speculation below! Quote https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/marijuana/ "We will legalize, regulate, and restrict access to marijuana. Canada’s current system of marijuana prohibition does not work. It does not prevent young people from using marijuana and too many Canadians end up with criminal records for possessing small amounts of the drug. Arresting and prosecuting these offenses is expensive for our criminal justice system. It traps too many Canadians in the criminal justice system for minor, non-violent offenses. At the same time, the proceeds from the illegal drug trade support organized crime and greater threats to public safety, like human trafficking and hard drugs. To ensure that we keep marijuana out of the hands of children, and the profits out of the hands of criminals, we will legalize, regulate, and restrict access to marijuana. We will remove marijuana consumption and incidental possession from the Criminal Code, and create new, stronger laws to punish more severely those who provide it to minors, those who operate a motor vehicle while under its influence, and those who sell it outside of the new regulatory framework. We will create a federal/provincial/territorial task force, and with input from experts in public health, substance abuse, and law enforcement, will design a new system of strict marijuana sales and distribution, with appropriate federal and provincial excise taxes applied." Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Footy on February 21, 2016, 03:49:30 PM You really can bet on anything lol.
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Barbut on February 22, 2016, 11:47:00 AM You really can bet on anything lol. People looking to bet on anything and everything in the world online for real money. Nowadays you can bet on almost anything. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Mist on February 22, 2016, 05:03:35 PM Sadly it won't happen, way too much opposition from high ranking political members. I'm pretty sure the majority of the people are okay with it.
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Zeke2345 on February 22, 2016, 05:10:33 PM Vancouver since the PM came to town has started to crack down on pot shops to close to schools,parks etc.
Think it will be held up as refugees seem to be taking most the focus right now. With Vancouvers sizzling real estate market there is no where for these big families coming over. So they really are going to have to focus on this or its going to blow back and steal all the light for the rest of the year. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Barcode_ on February 22, 2016, 05:50:02 PM Gambling to the max, lol, everything can be gamble :D
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: -XXIII- on February 23, 2016, 02:36:08 AM Vancouver since the PM came to town has started to crack down on pot shops to close to schools,parks etc. Think it will be held up as refugees seem to be taking most the focus right now. With Vancouvers sizzling real estate market there is no where for these big families coming over. So they really are going to have to focus on this or its going to blow back and steal all the light for the rest of the year. I somewhat agree here, and you're right the media focus is on the refugees right now. However, the liberals wasted no time with the motion of importing refugees, so there's always a chance they'll make haste with their other campaign promises; especially one with the potential to provide the government with much needed financial support. On the other hand, the promise to legalize may have been empty to begin with. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Mist on February 23, 2016, 03:32:03 AM Vancouver since the PM came to town has started to crack down on pot shops to close to schools,parks etc. Think it will be held up as refugees seem to be taking most the focus right now. With Vancouvers sizzling real estate market there is no where for these big families coming over. So they really are going to have to focus on this or its going to blow back and steal all the light for the rest of the year. I somewhat agree here, and you're right the media focus is on the refugees right now. However, the liberals wasted no time with the motion of importing refugees, so there's always a chance they'll make haste with their other campaign promises; especially one with the potential to provide the government with much needed financial support. On the other hand, the promise to legalize may have been empty to begin with. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: adaseb on February 23, 2016, 05:15:52 AM It might happen but it probably won't happen this year. Same with the USA. There are just too many politics involved.
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Mist on February 23, 2016, 06:18:13 AM It might happen but it probably won't happen this year. Same with the USA. There are just too many politics involved. USA however has a greater chance as weed becomes more and more common in certain states and we are being desensitized too it. Everyone sees that it's not that bad, the devils lettuce won't kill us all etc. Americans are turning very radical as shown by our support for presidential candidates (Trump far right,Sanders far left) so it could go either way. Major progress or a huge regression depending on our next election. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Zeke2345 on February 23, 2016, 07:00:56 PM The one positive aspect in something happening is this current government has made a lot of promises and need to start delivering.
Pot would be a easy jump off point,but most likely the legality issues need to be looked into for workplace/safe driving etc. Getting the economy going is a big problem and in B.C the pot industry brings in a lot of money. If it was to be legalized it would cause a lot of job loses for people. Kind of funny how that would work but I know a guy sweating legalization even though he also has a legal grow as well. The illegal brings into much money and it would cause some gang issues as well as they find new avenues to compete in. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: WhatTheGox on February 23, 2016, 07:42:46 PM Decriminalized in canada already right? ok for medical use? i would like to see it happen but most people who want to smoke it there can already. Love to see UK do it :) Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: -XXIII- on February 24, 2016, 03:31:41 PM Decriminalized in canada already right? ok for medical use? i would like to see it happen but most people who want to smoke it there can already. Love to see UK do it :) I'm certain it's still pretty illegal. You might not get thrown in jail right away for small amounts, supposedly under an ounce, and will definitely walk away with a criminal record. If there's reasonable proof of personal use; ie, not having a bunch of scales and baggies on you, carrying your pipe with your weed, etc.. then there's a high chance of a lesser punishment. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, and even us Canadians are mostly confused about our own cannabis laws. Quote Police Say People Still Confused on Cannabis Law (Barrie/Orilla) http://cannabisincanada.ca/barrie-and-orillia-police-say-people-are-confused-on-cannabis-laws/ I do know for a fact that medicinal use is very much legal, and pretty easy to acquire a license for personal use. Getting legal weed in the mail is boss, 100%. You do need to follow the rules, keep your card on you and only store the weed in it's designated container. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: BTCLovingDude on February 24, 2016, 04:51:39 PM You really can bet on anything lol. this is the funniest thing i have ever see people bet on with bitcoin :D it would be funnier if we got high on marijuana and bet on it then... Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Zeke2345 on February 24, 2016, 04:57:19 PM Ruling goes down today for legal growing purposes,forget to what extent but this should be a signal in which way the smoke is going to blow for this topic.
:) Had a neighbor when I was a kid that had 4-6 plants on his deck and some idiot kids ran into his house and held them up. They tied them up and took her wedding ring and he still called the cops! They told him to hang up and think it through,but he still had them investigate it. Passed on now but he would be tickled to see the ground work being made on this issue. To put people in this scary situation is not right in my eyes and we should have more say over how we live. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: gregyoung14 on February 24, 2016, 05:01:15 PM You really can bet on anything lol. this is the funniest thing i have ever see people bet on with bitcoin :D it would be funnier if we got high on marijuana and bet on it then... Hahaha. But i would that this would have a go and push through. Who will bet against me? Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: EngiNerd on February 24, 2016, 06:49:59 PM Oh whew, I was running out of things to bet on after casinos, dice sites, and sports booking. I'm super excited to know political and legislative gambling is now a thing :D
Imagine the irony of betting on whether some gambling/poker related bill would pass...haha. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: adaseb on February 24, 2016, 07:41:27 PM What would really make it legal in 2016 is if maybe Trump or Obama legalized it in the USA in all states and then Canada would probably follow suit right away.
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Mist on February 24, 2016, 09:11:08 PM What would really make it legal in 2016 is if maybe Trump or Obama legalized it in the USA in all states and then Canada would probably follow suit right away. If trump gets elected marijuana is toast for another few years. If sanders is president then he will most likely fight for legalization.Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: -XXIII- on February 24, 2016, 10:18:41 PM Ruling goes down today for legal growing purposes,forget to what extent but this should be a signal in which way the smoke is going to blow for this topic. Looks like medicinal users won: Quote http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/medical-marijuana-federal-court-ruling-1.3461694 A Federal Court judge has struck down federal regulations restricting the rights of medical marijuana patients to grow their own cannabis and given the Liberal government six months to come up with new rules. [...] Conroy noted that if Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wanted to move quickly on the issue, cabinet could simply issue an order-in-council that would remove marijuana from Schedule 2 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. One small step towards victory for the nation's pot-heads. Betting closes on April 20th, 4:20PM AST Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Patatas on February 24, 2016, 10:25:26 PM Well,never knew you can create your own custom bets .I will give you head up for showing me how to do that.Too sad to see not much bets on the concept as only one has bet against it for 0.005.I'd say the legalization will not be supported in all the states of Canada,since Canada just inherits their laws from the US,we can expect what the outcome of the preposition could be.
Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: -XXIII- on February 24, 2016, 11:12:46 PM I'd say the legalization will not be supported in all the states of Canada,since Canada just inherits their laws from the US I gotta say, this is a pretty ignorant statement. 1. Canada has 10 provinces and 3 territories, not a single state. 2. Canada has it's own very separate laws and constitutions; albeit some may be influenced by the US, we do not simply 'inherit' their laws. 3. Federal regulation is country-wide, provinces have limited power when it comes to writing provincial laws: Quote http://www.thecanadaguide.com/legal-system "Though Canada’s 10 provincial governments have the power to pass laws of their own, these are not allowed to regulate criminal matters and focus largely on the administration of public services such as education, health care, natural resources, transportation and energy or the general regulation of labour and industries." So, if Canada legalizes weed, it'll be 'A Mari Usque Ad Mare' Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: Zeke2345 on February 25, 2016, 06:52:59 PM Find it interesting that London Drugs and Shoppers Drug Mart have been jockeying for position for over 5 years to have it sold through their pharmacies. Think its going to be strange seeing pot heads lined up with methadone users and cold/flu sufferers.
They interviewed a guy on the news that claimed to have a disability and uses pot to relieve the pain. All fine and good till he mentions it costing him $500 a month in hydro to grow his own and it being much cheaper. How much pot is this guy smoking and how can he afford it on disability pension! Might be overthinking it,he could still be working but that was my first thoughts. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: darkangel11 on February 25, 2016, 09:07:22 PM Find it interesting that London Drugs and Shoppers Drug Mart have been jockeying for position for over 5 years to have it sold through their pharmacies. Think its going to be strange seeing pot heads lined up with methadone users and cold/flu sufferers. They interviewed a guy on the news that claimed to have a disability and uses pot to relieve the pain. All fine and good till he mentions it costing him $500 a month in hydro to grow his own and it being much cheaper. How much pot is this guy smoking and how can he afford it on disability pension! Might be overthinking it,he could still be working but that was my first thoughts. He probably sells some to his friends. You can't just keep spending time and money on growing indefinitely. It should be made legal even if the whole pharmacy situation will look ridiculous to some people. Freedom is what counts. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 Post by: rezilient on February 25, 2016, 11:16:11 PM since Canada just inherits their laws from the US. Even if i'm not from these countries but i know for sure that the laws of the U.S. and Canada have many differences. "There are things considered legal in the U.S but not in Canada" * Research first before spreading FUD. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 (Current Pot: ฿0.015) Post by: Zeke2345 on March 06, 2016, 05:41:14 PM Article in the Provincial newspaper mentioned a few points related to thus topic.
Canada is part of a International legal framework on psychotropic drugs. Meaning legalization is not allowed but they can loosen sanctions. Provincial and Federal would also need to get on the same page, that should take time in its self. Title: Re: Bet on Canada's Cannabis Legalization 2016 (Current Pot: ฿0.015) Post by: -XXIII- on March 09, 2016, 01:27:22 AM Article in the Provincial newspaper mentioned a few points related to thus topic. I almost see them just lowering the drug schedule. Trudeau's quoted as saying he'll remove it from the criminal code of Canada, but I'm highly doubtful of this.Canada is part of a International legal framework on psychotropic drugs. Meaning legalization is not allowed but they can loosen sanctions. Provincial and Federal would also need to get on the same page, that should take time in its self. I read yesterday's paper saying the CEO of NB Liquor is spearheading research into selling dope in his stores, which would be cool in a sense; better than the shoppers drug mart IMO, but still not better than having booze and dope separated and keep selling grass in out of dispensaries. It's hard to tell where this is all going at this time, it's interesting to see it unfold, and headlines are still being pressed out so it's not just sitting on the back burner. |