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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: davewill750 on February 21, 2016, 12:01:14 AM



Title: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: davewill750 on February 21, 2016, 12:01:14 AM
In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours

Paying back 0.02 btc.

Address:1BvAHaHyVfDBwtwd53VuGPcoxg1t86Nfxz


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
Offer your account as colaterall and I will fund you!


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Cyaren on February 21, 2016, 12:02:40 AM
Offer your account as colaterall and I will fund you!

Remember to request a signed message from the user. Good luck!


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:06:05 AM
Offer your account as colaterall and I will fund you!

Remember to request a signed message from the user. Good luck!

I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Funny on February 21, 2016, 12:10:05 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.

A signed message proves that the account isn't hacked or stolen. You should always request it when doing loans... Otherwise you may end up with a useless hacked account, which you can't sell and the original owner can always get it back.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:12:26 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.

A signed message proves that the account isn't hacked or stolen. You should always request it when doing loans... Otherwise you may end up with a useless hacked account, which you can't sell and the original owner can always get it back.

There is no neg trust from it being hacked!
Therefore it is not hacked, otherwise the previous owner would have left a note.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Lutpin on February 21, 2016, 12:12:51 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?
That's negligent and could lead to a lot of problems, in case the account has actually been hacked.
I just want to recall the issue Altcoins4life/Murderouskirk had a few weeks ago.
Always ask for a signed message from an old staked address.
You might not have had any problems regarding that, but believe me, the moment you do, you wish your standards would have been higher.

There is no neg trust from it being hacked!
Therefore it is not hacked, otherwise the previous owner would have left a note.
Not enough, maybe he didn't notice it yet?



That being said, since the account requested a loan to the same address 7 days ago, I don't think it has been hacked.
But as a general rule, better be safe than sorry.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Funny on February 21, 2016, 12:13:48 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.

A signed message proves that the account isn't hacked or stolen. You should always request it when doing loans... Otherwise you may end up with a useless hacked account, which you can't sell and the original owner can always get it back.

There is no neg trust from it being hacked!
Therefore it is not hacked, otherwise the previous owner would have left a note.

Urghh, no. The owner could be on vacation and forget to check his account for a while.

And yeah, the hacked account thing happened to Altcoin4life a few weeks ago and that didn't go well for him.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:18:36 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.

A signed message proves that the account isn't hacked or stolen. You should always request it when doing loans... Otherwise you may end up with a useless hacked account, which you can't sell and the original owner can always get it back.

There is no neg trust from it being hacked!
Therefore it is not hacked, otherwise the previous owner would have left a note.

Urghh, no. The owner could be on vacation and forget to check his account for a while.

And yeah, the hacked account thing happened to Altcoin4life a few weeks ago and that didn't go well for him.

ERM, all of the posts are from this month or last month.
I'll check the sec log.

Scanned Sec log... nothing.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Funny on February 21, 2016, 12:20:30 AM
You should take all the safety precautions you can to avoid bad things happening on your end. If he defaults on the loan, and you have no signed message from him saying that when he defaults the loan the account will belong to you, then you might be in trouble as well.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
I have advised this user to allow me to posess the account as colaterall. However, we can use an escrow if necessary (probably one of the trusted four).

I have advised this user to send me an email address or create another account in order or this deal to go ahead.

If/once I posess his account, I will list it here (posting from that account).


I hope this information is correct, any improvements?


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:22:15 AM
You should take all the safety precautions you can to avoid bad things happening on your end. If he defaults on the loan, and you have no signed message from him saying that when he defaults the loan the account will belong to you, then you might be in trouble as well.

It is £3! I don't really care. I would take his colaterall to ensure I am not giving agiveaway, but don't really care about 15mbtc.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Funny on February 21, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
You should take all the safety precautions you can to avoid bad things happening on your end. If he defaults on the loan, and you have no signed message from him saying that when he defaults the loan the account will belong to you, then you might be in trouble as well.

It is £3! I don't really care. I would take his colaterall to ensure I am not giving agiveaway, but don't really care about 15mbtc.

It's your choice in the end. Good luck with the loan then.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: davewill750 on February 21, 2016, 12:26:37 AM
THIS IS SASE007.

I HAVE POSESSED THIS ACCOUNT AS COLATERALL.

Changing the username and password accordingly.

The money will be sent to this user shortly.

The TXID will be posted when this happens.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: whywefight on February 21, 2016, 12:28:05 AM
I don't really care about signed message. Not sure I understand its importance.
All it proves is that an account was not hacked?

A lot of users won't know what signed messages are under Full Member rank I don't think.

A signed message proves that the account isn't hacked or stolen. You should always request it when doing loans... Otherwise you may end up with a useless hacked account, which you can't sell and the original owner can always get it back.

There is no neg trust from it being hacked!
Therefore it is not hacked, otherwise the previous owner would have left a note.

please educate yourself BEFORE you start to give loans to people.

signed message is a MUST!

Things you need to know:

[EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0)
How to sign a message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0)
Bitcointalk Escrows (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0)

i cant belive you gave a loan without a message... people scam for 1 cent. you just helping scamers...


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: DaveWill501 on February 21, 2016, 12:34:26 AM
Forwarded the account to: sase007

Waiting for the funds.

I can signed btc address if you need to.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: DaveWill501 on February 21, 2016, 12:41:43 AM
THIS IS SASE007.

I HAVE POSESSED THIS ACCOUNT AS COLATERALL.

Changing the username and password accordingly.

The money will be sent to this user shortly.

The TXID will be posted when this happens.

Quoted for reference.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 21, 2016, 12:42:56 AM
Forwarded the account to: sase007

Waiting for the funds.

I can signed btc address if you need to.
Sase may not require it, but you probably should just go ahead and sign one in case something goes awry.  It wouldn't be a bad idea.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:48:00 AM
Forwarded the account to: sase007

Waiting for the funds.

I can signed btc address if you need to.
Sase may not require it, but you probably should just go ahead and sign one in case something goes awry.  It wouldn't be a bad idea.

I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: DaveWill501 on February 21, 2016, 12:49:14 AM
Forwarded the account to: sase007

Waiting for the funds.

I can signed btc address if you need to.
Sase may not require it, but you probably should just go ahead and sign one in case something goes awry.  It wouldn't be a bad idea.

I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?

Im ok with 0.0101 btc. Just send the rest later.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: Lutpin on February 21, 2016, 12:50:40 AM
I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?
Im ok with 0.0101 btc. Just send the rest later.
This is getting more and more strange.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 21, 2016, 12:52:13 AM
I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?
Im ok with 0.0101 btc. Just send the rest later.
This is getting more and more strange.
Well I can confirm that sig campaign withdrawals are stuck at Yobit just like they were last week, and it might be more than 48 hours until Sase007 can send the rest of the bitcoin.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 12:54:36 AM
Forwarded the account to: sase007

Waiting for the funds.

I can signed btc address if you need to.
Sase may not require it, but you probably should just go ahead and sign one in case something goes awry.  It wouldn't be a bad idea.

I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?

Im ok with 0.0101 btc. Just send the rest later.

Sent from my Coinbase Account, it is confiming.
Can someone please post the TXid and everything, I need to sleep (it's 01:00 am)! I will launch a complaint with Yobit's support and try to withdraw my coins asap.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: DaveWill501 on February 21, 2016, 12:57:23 AM
Confirmed received. Thank you.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: davewill750 on February 21, 2016, 12:59:50 AM
I am really sorry, I realised that there is just a problem with Yobit withdrawals.
I would be able to send 0.0101BTC now or return your account to you?
Im ok with 0.0101 btc. Just send the rest later.
This is getting more and more strange.
Well I can confirm that sig campaign withdrawals are stuck at Yobit just like they were last week, and it might be more than 48 hours until Sase007 can send the rest of the bitcoin.


Money sent from Sase007.
TXid: 5341bfcd831bfa55423e05e8fa4b21744fc23092b86bf32369abf4d991341a86


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 21, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
It SHOULD take 6 hours. I have taken different measures in order to get the coins out (I won't release it as you will slow me down if you try it too - contacting support to make a manual withdrawal).

Please quote the txid on the previous post (for reference). Thank You


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: davewill750 on February 22, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
[THIS IS SASE007 - START MESSAGE]

Last payment just sent direct from Yobit account.
Keep the 0.0001BTC I sent extra as a componsation payment.

I expect a 0.02 BTC payment by 48Hours.
If not, contact me. (If you do not contact, I will sell this account).
Thank you
Sase007
(THE YOBIT ERROR WAS RESOLVED)
[END MESSAGE]

Payment information:
TXid = 8c88a59c07606347978774b7478f35765de51332e92d54c894ac1e2f5c5166b7
Sending Address(es) =
18kwKE1TRCA2nL7fm93mwEhm7sgPhgqfT1
18g1BSJWLw2EZfK4Vxiq8JybphgjvTeV57
1JW4AwkGNsyHuSXXV7ChCXDtCjP3MfMEux
18i8yE5ptQhnBjpniW8joA7ekXEDgEMAJ9

Receiving Address = 1BvAHaHyVfDBwtwd53VuGPcoxg1t86Nfxz

(seems to be using a bitcoin mixer type item to send).


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 22, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
Yes luckily the error was resolved.
I will go and close my ticket with them that I opened, seems that they did not reply to it but I may be wrong.

EDIT: they did not respond to the ticket but did fix the error.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 22, 2016, 04:28:24 PM
I got negative trust for not asking for s=igned message?

IT SHOUDL BE THE JUDGEMENT OF THE LENDER TO DECIDE WHAT IS NECESSARY, NOT TWO PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THAT FEEL IT NECESSARY TO GIVE A USER NEGATIVE TRUST FOR TRUSTING ANOTHER FORUM MEMBER.

Reserve your paranoia for yourself and please remove my neg rep (it isnt my fault for not knowing a signed message was required for EVERY transaction (even small ones).


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 22, 2016, 04:44:04 PM
Yes luckily the error was resolved.
I will go and close my ticket with them that I opened, seems that they did not reply to it but I may be wrong.

EDIT: they did not respond to the ticket but did fix the error.
Of course they didn't respond,  this happens about once a week.

And yeah I think people are being far too overzealous with their feedback.   Leaving you negative or even neutral trust for not asking for a signed message is just obnoxious.


Title: Re: In need of 0.015 btc loan Payment in 48 hours
Post by: sase007 on February 26, 2016, 08:33:28 PM
I have not reveived payment and that user has not been back online.
I have left a note on their trust.
I will hold this account for another day and ten ask the users to remove their negative trust so that I can sell on the account (in an auction or to a trusted account selle ).