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Title: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 04:16:15 PM
In 2012, out of the 22 billionaires, 13 of then funded the left-wingers and 9 of them funded the right-wingers

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/ (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/liberal-billionaires-fundraising-2013-elections-tom-steyer-mark-zuckerberg-michael-bloomberg-99207_Page2.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/liberal-billionaires-fundraising-2013-elections-tom-steyer-mark-zuckerberg-michael-bloomberg-99207_Page2.html)

http://freebeacon.com/politics/liberal-billionaires-top-donor-list-in-2014/ (http://freebeacon.com/politics/liberal-billionaires-top-donor-list-in-2014/)


Many of their identities are protected by certain rules.

But,

They all make the loudest noise about right-wing billionaires like Koch.

Koch this, Koch that, Sheldon this and that

In reality, majority of billionaires are left-wingers themselves.

And they whine about "The rich are oppressing us"

Even George Soros the guy behind the color revolutions in Ukraine which toppled a legitimate government and protests in Baltimore is a left-winger himself.


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 21, 2016, 04:34:33 PM
Doesn't surprise me much. Most of these billionaires have stashed their money abroad, in Swiss bank accounts and various businesses and other ventures in the third world nations. Even if the left-wingers increase the taxes, they will not be affected. Tax rises only affect the middle-class. The rich are having too many options, to avoid paying tax.


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: Moloch on February 21, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
I think some of this has to do with the fact that certain billionaires, like Bill Gates for example, donate billions of dollars every year to charity...

While other billionaires, like the Koch brothers for example, spend billions of dollars every year lobbying congress for new tax loopholes, etc...


This is why people bitch about the Koch brothers... it has nothing to do with their choice of left vs right, and has everything to do with their generosity vs greed


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: designerusa on February 21, 2016, 05:09:32 PM
In 2012, out of the 22 billionaires, 13 of then funded the left-wingers and 9 of them funded the right-wingers

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/ (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/liberal-billionaires-fundraising-2013-elections-tom-steyer-mark-zuckerberg-michael-bloomberg-99207_Page2.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/liberal-billionaires-fundraising-2013-elections-tom-steyer-mark-zuckerberg-michael-bloomberg-99207_Page2.html)

http://freebeacon.com/politics/liberal-billionaires-top-donor-list-in-2014/ (http://freebeacon.com/politics/liberal-billionaires-top-donor-list-in-2014/)


Many of their identities are protected by certain rules.

But,

They all make the loudest noise about right-wing billionaires like Koch.

Koch this, Koch that, Sheldon this and that

In reality, majority of billionaires are left-wingers themselves.

And they whine about "The rich are oppressing us"

Even George Soros the guy behind the color revolutions in Ukraine which toppled a legitimate government and protests in Baltimore is a left-winger himself.

i didnt surprised at all.. all the riches whether they are leftist or rightist  is sucking middle class's and poor people's blood..


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 06:34:28 PM
I think some of this has to do with the fact that certain billionaires, like Bill Gates for example, donate billions of dollars every year to charity...

While other billionaires, like the Koch brothers for example, spend billions of dollars every year lobbying congress for new tax loopholes, etc...


This is why people bitch about the Koch brothers... it has nothing to do with their choice of left vs right, and has everything to do with their generosity vs greed

Or it is just that when conservative billionaires donate, it doesn't get much media coverage.

Both of them are lobbying for one thing or other

And let us ask ourselves, who are those stashing their billions on foreign countries?

Apple, Microsoft, Google and so on.


http://mic.com/articles/126416/one-chart-shows-how-much-apple-and-google-are-hiding-in-overseas-tax-havens#.EhyguITeA

Facebook specifically is lobbying for more cheap labor from foreign countries and visas.


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 02:00:16 AM
I think some of this has to do with the fact that certain billionaires, like Bill Gates for example, donate billions of dollars every year to charity...

While other billionaires, like the Koch brothers for example, spend billions of dollars every year lobbying congress for new tax loopholes, etc...


This is why people bitch about the Koch brothers... it has nothing to do with their choice of left vs right, and has everything to do with their generosity vs greed

Or it is just that when conservative billionaires donate, it doesn't get much media coverage.

Both of them are lobbying for one thing or other

And let us ask ourselves, who are those stashing their billions on foreign countries?

Apple, Microsoft, Google and so on.


http://mic.com/articles/126416/one-chart-shows-how-much-apple-and-google-are-hiding-in-overseas-tax-havens#.EhyguITeA

Facebook specifically is lobbying for more cheap labor from foreign countries and visas.

Yeah, a lot of companies dodge taxes... they kinda have to in order to stay competitive...

How can you charge the same price for your product, if you pay 35% more in taxes than everyone else?... You can't... The system is broken


"Cheap labor from foreign countries" is a misnomer... first, this is the global age, everything is global... secondly, as more companies move to China, their cheap labor disappears, and they get paid a higher wage (supply and demand)... in 20 years there will be no more "cheap labor" anywhere on the planet


Title: Re: FUN FACT : There are more leftist billionaires than rightist billionaires
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 02:26:29 AM
in 20 years there will be no more "cheap labor" anywhere on the planet

There will be. As long as there are people who give more importance to religion than education, there will be hordes of illiterate and unskilled people who are willing to work for $2 per day. And also, we will be having billionaires such as Gina Rinehart (worth some $11 billion as of now), who will happily employ these people after firing the skilled workforce.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-05/rinehart-says-aussie-workers-overpaid-unproductive/4243866