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Title: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 21, 2016, 05:46:23 PM
hello
my C is a 240GB SSD
I installed the "Bitcoin Core" yesterday
it's been running about 30 hours and has taken up 42GB of space
I don't think I even have enough space for it to finish syncing up
why is it taking so much space ?
and why is it taking so long to sync up ?
gona be 40-50 hours


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: cr1776 on February 21, 2016, 05:48:55 PM
hello
my C is a 240GB SSD
I installed the "Bitcoin Core" yesterday
it's been running about 30 hours and has taken up 42GB of space
I don't think I even have enough space for it to finish syncing up
why is it taking so much space ?
and why is it taking so long to sync up ?
gona be 40-50 hours

https://bitcoin.org/en/faq#what-does-synchronizing-mean-and-why-does-it-take-so-long
Quote
What does "synchronizing" mean and why does it take so long?

Long synchronization time is only required with full node clients like Bitcoin Core. Technically speaking, synchronizing is the process of downloading and verifying all previous Bitcoin transactions on the network. For some Bitcoin clients to calculate the spendable balance of your Bitcoin wallet and make new transactions, it needs to be aware of all previous transactions. This step can be resource intensive and requires sufficient bandwidth and storage to accommodate the full size of the block chain. For Bitcoin to remain secure, enough people should keep using full node clients because they perform the task of validating and relaying transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 21, 2016, 06:28:13 PM
ive cleared another 10GB of space so it should be able to finish
can I assume it wont hold all the space it's taking on my C drive ?

I have an internet business that brings in about 4-5K a month
iv had bitpay sending all my BTC to my trader but now im trying to get into trading myself so I need my own BTC account
that's why I installed "Bitcoin Core" I knew it would take time to sync in but figured 5-6 hours not 2-3 days
and didn't expect it to fill up my C drive

once I got it installed I got the receiving address from it and put it in my bitpay which had 58EU in it waiting to be sent (today)
I got sic of waiting and setup "Bitcoin Core" on one of my servers and it is moving much faster there then at home
likely be synced up in 2-3 hours
but how do I transfer the BTC account from my home computer to my server ?
I see how to backup a wallet but not how to open one


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: shorena on February 21, 2016, 06:35:43 PM
ive cleared another 10GB of space so it should be able to finish
can I assume it wont hold all the space it's taking on my C drive ?


My blocks and chainstate folders combined have ~65GB currently.

I have an internet business that brings in about 4-5K a month
iv had bitpay sending all my BTC to my trader but now im trying to get into trading myself so I need my own BTC account
that's why I installed "Bitcoin Core" I knew it would take time to sync in but figured 5-6 hours not 2-3 days
and didn't expect it to fill up my C drive

once I got it installed I got the receiving address from it and put it in my bitpay which had 58EU in it waiting to be sent (today)
I got sic of waiting and setup "Bitcoin Core" on one of my servers and it is moving much faster there then at home
likely be synced up in 2-3 hours
but how do I transfer the BTC account from my home computer to my server ?
I see how to backup a wallet but not how to open one

#1 Close core
#2 Put the wallet.dat in the correct place -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory#Default_Location
#3 start core


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: SuperFuture on February 21, 2016, 07:01:07 PM
I have Bitcoind installed on my server and it's around 66GB.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: Indianacoin on February 21, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
You can enable pruning mode while syncing the blockchain.

To start pruning enter this on the command line -

Code:
-prune=N

where N is the size in MB that you want to allot for raw blocks. Minimum acceptable N is 550MB.

For now block pruning disables block relay and is incompatible with running a wallet due to the fact that block data is used for rescanning the wallet and importing keys or addresses. However these features will be included in version 0.12.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: pedrog on February 21, 2016, 07:28:35 PM
I've been running 0.12 with a 5GB pruned block chain, it's great if you don't have much space in that machine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 21, 2016, 07:59:17 PM
please explain this prune thing more
im unable to get it to work
http://prntscr.com/a68vev


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: achow101 on February 21, 2016, 08:11:36 PM
please explain this prune thing more
im unable to get it to work
http://prntscr.com/a68vev
Pruning is not done through the debug window, but rather the start up command. What you need to do is right click the shortcut to start Bitcoin Core and select properties. In the box that appears, add -prune=N to the end of the string in the box labeled "target". Make sure you have a space between what was already in that box and the prune option.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 21, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
thanks  http://prntscr.com/a6a0fh
seems to be working
has cleared up 40GB


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: shorena on February 22, 2016, 05:45:58 AM
thanks  http://prntscr.com/a6a0fh
seems to be working
has cleared up 40GB

Didnt you want to run it as a wallet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: watashi-kokoto on February 22, 2016, 05:48:31 AM

Didnt you want to run it as a wallet?

can use 0.12 beta to get wallet and pruning


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: target on February 22, 2016, 05:51:30 AM
Although its safer to use it, synchronizing and size are just reasons why i don't use bitcoin core.
I'm comfrtable using blockchain so far i don't store much anyway as i kept spending my btc every now and then.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: shorena on February 22, 2016, 08:49:30 AM

Didnt you want to run it as a wallet?

can use 0.12 beta to get wallet and pruning

I know, does OP know? Did they get 0.12 before just pruning away the information the wallet needs?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: 7788bitcoin on February 22, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
Full version is always better than the pruned version, IMO. 240GB should be able to last you quite a while.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: calkob on February 22, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
what is the point of running core in pruned node without the wallet function, surely its not a full node then?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: nichu on February 22, 2016, 10:40:55 PM
ive cleared another 10GB of space so it should be able to finish
can I assume it wont hold all the space it's taking on my C drive ?

I have an internet business that brings in about 4-5K a month
iv had bitpay sending all my BTC to my trader but now im trying to get into trading myself so I need my own BTC account
that's why I installed "Bitcoin Core" I knew it would take time to sync in but figured 5-6 hours not 2-3 days
and didn't expect it to fill up my C drive

once I got it installed I got the receiving address from it and put it in my bitpay which had 58EU in it waiting to be sent (today)
I got sic of waiting and setup "Bitcoin Core" on one of my servers and it is moving much faster there then at home
likely be synced up in 2-3 hours
but how do I transfer the BTC account from my home computer to my server ?
I see how to backup a wallet but not how to open one

since you wanted your own bitcoin wallet and for business use,why dont you use a light weight wallet without all these hassle of downloading everything. i use electrum FYI


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 23, 2016, 02:59:11 AM
because my problem had drifted away from my topic here I made a new thread

turns out in pruned mode it CAN"T load a wallet
and when you disable Pruned mode it has to re download everything
also the new copy isn't actually out yet (in a few days im told)
and it would also need to do a full re download (yet more days)

I had a second copy running on my server that finished setting up today
I just aplied the data file to it and got it working correctly
nearly 2TB free on that drive so will never be an isu
the 240GB at home is not free it is the full size of my C drives SSD
and it was full cause of the BC core

anyway guy advised electrum
from what I understand it is not a standalone product
you need to have something else running on a server for it to connect to
I was told I can use the BC core that I have running on my server for that
also from what I understand most people have someone else running there real BC account and "electrum" just connects remotely
if I understand that correctly using a third party for this would mean your money isn't secure

I may have a few things wrong here since im just learning how the system works
but my plan is to run the BC core on one of my servers and run electrum on my home computer


Ps
thanks for all the help
im learning a lot in a hurry here


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: Jet Cash on February 23, 2016, 07:30:39 AM
Can you wait for 0.12 and use a USB stick to start to build a pruned node. I'll probably try this on an old computer when it's available. It seemed like a good way to make a type of hardware wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: amartin99 on February 23, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
perhaps if your using public computers
im using only a private one so a usb still is not needed


Title: Re: Bitcoin Core (42GB and climbing)
Post by: jonathgb25 on February 23, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
Or you can use a lightweight bitcoin client. You can find some of them here: https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet