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Title: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
I have a transacation which is pending since I sent it, at around 11:30 CET (UTC+1). Is this slowness related to the high current price, which make people transact more, or are we under another stress test ?


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: pedrog on February 22, 2016, 03:40:15 PM
10k backlog transactions?

It looks normal to me, what are you talking about?


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Jemzx00 on February 22, 2016, 04:36:17 PM
Trasanction time depends on how fast blockchain confirms your transaction.. And its pretty normal that you receive btc in 1-3hours delay and sometime just 1-3minutes delay ..


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: btcltccoins on February 22, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
Sometimes it take around 24 hrs to get the transcation complete.
It can be due to network congestion.
You just wait for 24 to 36 hrs and your transaction will be completed.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 04:38:06 PM
Trasanction time depends on how fast blockchain confirms your transaction.. And its pretty normal that you receive btc in 1-3hours delay and sometime just 1-3minutes delay ..

8 hours for now. I don't think that it is normal. That's pretty long, especially for the guy I lent my bitcoins to :-\...


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: btcltccoins on February 22, 2016, 04:41:54 PM
Ya the person waiting to get the money would be worrying.
But you have to wait more hour i guess. Sometimes it happens but eventually transaction is complete.

Maybe you are doing transaction of a very high amount..


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 04:44:25 PM
Ya the person waiting to get the money would be worrying.
But you have to wait more hour i guess. Sometimes it happens but eventually transaction is complete.

Maybe you are doing transaction of a very high amount..

Hopefully he had a second way to contact me, so I kept him calm. No, I'm not sending a big amount, just a little 0,04BTC.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Jet Cash on February 22, 2016, 04:45:37 PM
And I was told that I was talking rubbish when I said that some transactions could take 30 minutes to confirm. :)


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: pedrog on February 22, 2016, 04:46:27 PM
Trasanction time depends on how fast blockchain confirms your transaction.. And its pretty normal that you receive btc in 1-3hours delay and sometime just 1-3minutes delay ..

8 hours for now. I don't think that it is normal. That's pretty long, especially for the guy I lent my bitcoins to :-\...

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

It has been like this for quite some time, people making transactions now will pay a bigger fee than you and their transactions will confirm ahead of yours, this is no FIFO, you'll need to wait transaction volume goes down so backlog can be cleared, that can take days.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: SFR10 on February 22, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
AFAIK where not under any stress test at the moment and I also doubt that, the recent spike, have anything to do with the delay in confirmation of your transaction. Might help if you could post the transaction address so we could evaluate it properly.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: NorrisK on February 22, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
I'm not really sure why so many people are experiencing problems with their transactions. Made a few today and they were all included in the first block after the transaction.

Just make sure the size is low for the amount you are sending and that you send a sufficiently large fee and you should be able to get it included in the next block.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: pedrog on February 22, 2016, 05:04:05 PM
I'm not really sure why so many people are experiencing problems with their transactions. Made a few today and they were all included in the first block after the transaction.

Just make sure the size is low for the amount you are sending and that you send a sufficiently large fee and you should be able to get it included in the next block.

Here's why: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: pawel7777 on February 22, 2016, 05:13:38 PM
Trasanction time depends on how fast blockchain confirms your transaction.. And its pretty normal that you receive btc in 1-3hours delay and sometime just 1-3minutes delay ..

8 hours for now. I don't think that it is normal. That's pretty long, especially for the guy I lent my bitcoins to :-\...

This happens from time to time.

Have you included sufficient fee? Maybe you should check whether your wallet is RBF enabled? I recently discovered that my android wallet allows to increase the fee after the tx is made (but only let you choose increase to fixed 0.001, which is a bit high).


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: shorena on February 22, 2016, 05:36:30 PM
Ya the person waiting to get the money would be worrying.
But you have to wait more hour i guess. Sometimes it happens but eventually transaction is complete.

Maybe you are doing transaction of a very high amount..

Hopefully he had a second way to contact me, so I kept him calm. No, I'm not sending a big amount, just a little 0,04BTC.

You really need to be careful with the nonsense[1] people post here for a few satoshi. Without a transaction ID or more information about the transaction every single post here (except for maybe the number of unconfirmed transactions) is speculation. If you dont want to share the TX ID in order to give you a good estimate we need to know:

#1 how much fee do you pay per byte
#2 whether any of the outputs are below 2730 satoshi (considered dust)
#3 which wallet do you use (some like core constantly rebroadcast the TX which helps)
#4 whether any of the inputs are unconfirmed.

If you share the TX ID I and others can help rebroadcasting it so the network does not forget about it. This can help with low fee transactions to some extend.

[1] :
Trasanction time depends on how fast blockchain confirms your transaction.. And its pretty normal that you receive btc in 1-3hours delay and sometime just 1-3minutes delay ..

Blockchain does not confirm anything, neither the service blockchain.info nor the blockchain. Transaction time is instant with bitcoin, we are talking about confirmation times.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Lauda on February 22, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
If you dont want to share the TX ID in order to give you a good estimate we need to know:
I'll wait for this,however I can state that there is a high chance of something artificial going on. There was also a small wave of unusually big transactions. (e.g. Block 399508 (https://blockchain.info/block-index/1074950/00000000000000000430e129a4cf10b3101fcd0dbd7b91a216b1c51abaaa8da3)). 11 out of the last 89 blocks were under 900 kb which is also unusual (if counted correctly).

10k backlog transactions?

It looks normal to me, what are you talking about?
Data taken in a small time-period tells us nothing. A few days ago the backlog was only 1k transactions. Shorena might have more data (from the past) on this. I recall them posting some charts or something.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 06:30:44 PM
So as it has been answered many times, here's the txID : fa9ba39ddd493336d62752710ad12546aebff801f7518adb64426779a87edc66. I hope that the guy would still need it :-\.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: shorena on February 22, 2016, 06:33:29 PM
So as it has been answered many times, here's the txID : fa9ba39ddd493336d62752710ad12546aebff801f7518adb64426779a87edc66. I hope that the guy would still need it :-\.

815 byte, 5k satoshi fee or 6 satoshi per byte, which puts you at the very low end of the queue[1]. No dust or other problems though. I will rebroadcast it every 30 minutes, let me know when its confirmed. If anyone else wants to help:

Code:
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

[1] https://bitcoinfees.21.co/


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 06:37:21 PM
So as it has been answered many times, here's the txID : fa9ba39ddd493336d62752710ad12546aebff801f7518adb64426779a87edc66. I hope that the guy would still need it :-\.

815 byte, 5k satoshi fee or 6 satoshi per byte, which puts you at the very low end of the queue[1]. No dust or other problems though. I will rebroadcast it every 30 minutes, let me know when its confirmed. If anyone else wants to help:

Code:
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

[1] https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

I always used this fee, even for bigger transaction, so this surprised me that today, it did not confirmed as fast as usually. By the way, thank you for your help ;) !


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on February 22, 2016, 06:46:12 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: xslugx on February 22, 2016, 06:50:48 PM
I have a transacation which is pending since I sent it, at around 11:30 CET (UTC+1). Is this slowness related to the high current price, which make people transact more, or are we under another stress test ?

People transact more so it all goes slower. But it's a bit strange, did you pay a correct fee?

EDIT/ didn't read the answers --'
Well you got your answer. Fees are still low but got to get paid. Don't worry though, you'll get confirmation but it might take up to few hours!


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: shorena on February 22, 2016, 06:53:40 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.

I wouldnt suggest any fixed fee. The transaction may also be unusually large (in byte) for Erkallys which might be why they didnt have this problem before. You either have a wallet that can make a good suggestion or you have to rely on 3rd party estimates from e.g. 21.co.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 08:45:12 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.

I wouldnt suggest any fixed fee. The transaction may also be unusually large (in byte) for Erkallys which might be why they didnt have this problem before. You either have a wallet that can make a good suggestion or you have to rely on 3rd party estimates from e.g. 21.co.

I use Electrum, and that's what it automatically put as fee for me. Each time it put me this, each time it worked well, so I did not changed anything.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Blinken on February 22, 2016, 09:10:26 PM
How much is 5000 Satoishis. Is that like 1 penny or something?

Seriously, if you do not pay a fee, then go screw yourself. You and all the bitcoin tumblers can go to hell with your worthless, network-clogging transactions.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: pilardi on February 22, 2016, 09:57:24 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.

I wouldnt suggest any fixed fee. The transaction may also be unusually large (in byte) for Erkallys which might be why they didnt have this problem before. You either have a wallet that can make a good suggestion or you have to rely on 3rd party estimates from e.g. 21.co.

I use Electrum, and that's what it automatically put as fee for me. Each time it put me this, each time it worked well, so I did not changed anything.

The default fee for Electrum is 0.5 mBTC/kB.  The fee you included in your transaction is 1/10th that.  I suspect you may have changed it at some point.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 22, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.

I wouldnt suggest any fixed fee. The transaction may also be unusually large (in byte) for Erkallys which might be why they didnt have this problem before. You either have a wallet that can make a good suggestion or you have to rely on 3rd party estimates from e.g. 21.co.

I use Electrum, and that's what it automatically put as fee for me. Each time it put me this, each time it worked well, so I did not changed anything.

The default fee for Electrum is 0.5 mBTC/kB.  The fee you included in your transaction is 1/10th that.  I suspect you may have changed it at some point.

This time I did nothing. Some long time ago I chose it manually, and I chose that. It seems that Electrum remembered my choice. What is more intriguing is that I recently performed a factory reset on my computer and just imported my seed into Electrum without touching to anything.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: xslugx on February 22, 2016, 11:50:12 PM
https://bitcoinfees.21.co/#delay says the fee you used was 10x too low. If you want to avoid problems use a fee of .0005 routinely.

I wouldnt suggest any fixed fee. The transaction may also be unusually large (in byte) for Erkallys which might be why they didnt have this problem before. You either have a wallet that can make a good suggestion or you have to rely on 3rd party estimates from e.g. 21.co.

It's a bit hard to estimate the size of one's transaction and thus the adviced fee :/


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 23, 2016, 12:29:28 AM
Sometimes it take around 24 hrs to get the transcation complete.
It can be due to network congestion.
You just wait for 24 to 36 hrs and your transaction will be completed.
I just had this happen to me using Mycelium.  I was ultra cheap with the miners' fee and it took well over 20 hours for the transaction to finally get confirmed.  Oy.  OP I don't know why yours isn't confirming.  Could it be the same deal, not enough of a fee?


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Blind Legs Parker on February 23, 2016, 12:50:48 AM
I found that transaction time was very random these days. The day before yesterday I made two reasonable-sized payments, which were only processed after 2 hours, but yesterday I made a smaller one and it was processed almost immediately (less than half an hour).

None of my payments ever took more than these 2 hours to get confirmation though. Besides I also set Electrum to pay minimum fees.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: lumeire on February 23, 2016, 01:45:38 AM
Nothing over the usual here, I usually pay a little over the minimum fees and it takes about half an hour before 3 confirms.

We really need the lightning network though. I hope it comes soon.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Bitware on February 23, 2016, 03:17:55 AM
Pay a reasonable transaction fee, you cheap bastard.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: RoughLyfe on February 23, 2016, 03:30:53 AM
Same thing is happening to me,I paid the bitcoin fee at 0.001 BTC and sent 2 transactions about 30~ish minutes ago and still no confirmation.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: BTCBinary on February 23, 2016, 03:43:14 AM
I have a transacation which is pending since I sent it, at around 11:30 CET (UTC+1). Is this slowness related to the high current price, which make people transact more, or are we under another stress test ?

I see no problem there. with the current load of transaction it is more than normal that a transaction takes roughly about 3 hours to be confirmed.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: RoughLyfe on February 23, 2016, 03:48:25 AM
I have a transacation which is pending since I sent it, at around 11:30 CET (UTC+1). Is this slowness related to the high current price, which make people transact more, or are we under another stress test ?

I see no problem there. with the current load of transaction it is more than normal that a transaction takes roughly about 3 hours to be confirmed.
Well,looks like today is gonna be a long night.Gotta wait around 2 hours for it to confirm


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Jet Cash on February 23, 2016, 04:00:57 AM

I see no problem there. with the current load of transaction it is more than normal that a transaction takes roughly about 3 hours to be confirmed.

Is that acceptable in these days of virtually instant communications, and some fiat transfers taking seconds to complete.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Herbert2020 on February 23, 2016, 04:32:59 AM
i have had this problem recently too. it is just the bitcoin network, the blocks are almost full (>900KB) and with 2000-3000 transactions in each block.
besides, worst of all is that blocks aren't being mined every 10 minutes, right now there has been two blocks mined in the last hour (399661 and 399660)
399661   11 minutes
399660   35 minutes
399659   1 hour 2 minutes


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Jet Cash on February 23, 2016, 04:43:15 AM
i have had this problem recently too. it is just the bitcoin network, the blocks are almost full (>900KB) and with 2000-3000 transactions in each block.
besides, worst of all is that blocks aren't being mined every 10 minutes, right now there has been two blocks mined in the last hour (399661 and 399660)
399661   11 minutes
399660   35 minutes
399659   1 hour 2 minutes


So should the difficulty be adjusted more frequently? What happens if a major mining organisation has a power outage, or a fire? Maybe it gets closed down by the government.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: shorena on February 23, 2016, 08:44:30 AM
Its confirmed.

-snip-
The default fee for Electrum is 0.5 mBTC/kB.  The fee you included in your transaction is 1/10th that.  I suspect you may have changed it at some point.

Math fail!

How much is 5000 Satoishis. Is that like 1 penny or something?

Seriously, if you do not pay a fee, then go screw yourself. You and all the bitcoin tumblers can go to hell with your worthless, network-clogging transactions.

People like you will be the reason I stop giving tech advice. Go to hell with your assumptions.


Title: Re: What mess is going on in the transactions ?
Post by: Erkallys on February 23, 2016, 09:25:56 AM
Its confirmed.

-snip-
The default fee for Electrum is 0.5 mBTC/kB.  The fee you included in your transaction is 1/10th that.  I suspect you may have changed it at some point.

Math fail!

How much is 5000 Satoishis. Is that like 1 penny or something?

Seriously, if you do not pay a fee, then go screw yourself. You and all the bitcoin tumblers can go to hell with your worthless, network-clogging transactions.

People like you will be the reason I stop giving tech advice. Go to hell with your assumptions.

Thank you so luch shorena ;D ! Now it is confirmed. For sure I'll set big fees for a moment now. I'll lock the thread since my problem has been solved.