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Title: These blocks were perfectly mined!
Post by: colinistheman on February 26, 2016, 05:02:11 AM
Is this a secret message...


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: jmintuck1912 on February 26, 2016, 05:24:38 AM
Oh geeze. That IS funny. I did laugh. WOW! I hope this goes down in history.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Jet Cash on February 26, 2016, 06:31:49 AM
More like a message for classic if they were mined using current software. :)


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: poptok1 on February 26, 2016, 04:19:32 PM
It looks like Mickey Mouse's hand...
Why would Mickey give a fuck?

This form of "jokes" always stays on history charts.
Nice that some ppl have sense of humor.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pereira4 on February 26, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pedrog on February 26, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Denker on February 26, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...

Spoofing nodes is pretty easy and cheap for people with a bit of knowledge.I'm not one of those by the way.
So node count is a bad metric paramter.

VM+VPS = virtual machine (Ubuntu as OS for instance)+ virtual private server (via amazon if you like)


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pedrog on February 26, 2016, 05:11:19 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...

Spoofing nodes is pretty easy and cheap for people with a bit of knowledge.I'm not one of those by the way.
So node count is a bad metric paramter.

VM+VPS = virtual machine (Ubuntu as OS for instance)+ virtual private server (via amazon if you like)

I know what VM and VPS are, I don't know is why that is bad or fake...

If it is so easy, why aren't there tens of thousands of nodes?

Bitcoin Core node count is going down as Bitcoin Classic node count is going up, were those Bitcoin Core nodes fake? And now they are fake Bitcoin Classic nodes instead?


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: adamstgBit on February 26, 2016, 05:13:34 PM
is this legit  :D


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Jet Cash on February 26, 2016, 05:28:35 PM
is this legit  :D

No, it's classic humour. :)


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Denker on February 26, 2016, 06:05:23 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...

Spoofing nodes is pretty easy and cheap for people with a bit of knowledge.I'm not one of those by the way.
So node count is a bad metric paramter.

VM+VPS = virtual machine (Ubuntu as OS for instance)+ virtual private server (via amazon if you like)

I know what VM and VPS are, I don't know is why that is bad or fake...

If it is so easy, why aren't there tens of thousands of nodes?

Bitcoin Core node count is going down as Bitcoin Classic node count is going up, were those Bitcoin Core nodes fake? And now they are fake Bitcoin Classic nodes instead?


That is not accurate because with a bit of money in your pocket you can launch hundreds nodes and more if you want.So pretty easy to manipulate the stats I would say and to use for your propaganda .Possible for both sides of course.

Example:
4 weeks ago, or let's say 24.01.2016 Bitcoin Core nodes had been 4,47k. Today node count of core is 4,43k. A slight difference.And since october 2015 core nodes are hovering around 4,3k to 4,4k.

24.01.2016 Classic nodes had been 5. Today it's 1,09k.

What I interpret of these stats is that core has not dropped a thousand nodes which allegedly switched over to Classic, what a few supporters of Classic claimed!
But Classic has seen a drastic increase 3 weeks ago.Not impossible, because 1 week earlier Classic client was released, but definitely suspicious.So either these Classic nodes had been launched by former core node operators who switched off their core nodes 4 months  ago or these nodes ares spoofed imo.

And Classic pushed pretty hard the last weeks and therefore each success and sign of growth is welcome of course.
And the nodes can be missused for that politics pretty easy.

I mean we have the same with XT nodes last year.

https://coin.dance/nodes/all (https://coin.dance/nodes/all)



Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pedrog on February 26, 2016, 06:10:32 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...

Spoofing nodes is pretty easy and cheap for people with a bit of knowledge.I'm not one of those by the way.
So node count is a bad metric paramter.

VM+VPS = virtual machine (Ubuntu as OS for instance)+ virtual private server (via amazon if you like)

I know what VM and VPS are, I don't know is why that is bad or fake...

If it is so easy, why aren't there tens of thousands of nodes?

Bitcoin Core node count is going down as Bitcoin Classic node count is going up, were those Bitcoin Core nodes fake? And now they are fake Bitcoin Classic nodes instead?


That is not accurate because with a bit of money in your pocket you can launch hundreds nodes and more if you want.So pretty easy to manipulate the stats I would say and to use for your propaganda .Possible for both sides of course.

Example:
4 weeks ago, or let's say 24.01.2016 Bitcoin Core nodes had been 4,47k. Today node count of core is 4,43k. A slight difference.And since october 2015 core nodes are hovering around 4,3k to 4,4k.

24.01.2016 Classic nodes had been 5. Today it's 1,09k.

What I interpret of these stats is that core has not dropped a thousand nodes which allegedly switched over to Classic, what a few supporters of Classic claimed!
But Classic has seen a drastic increase 3 weeks ago.Not impossible, because 1 week earlier Classic client was released, but definitely suspicious.So either these Classic nodes had been launched by former core node operators who switched off their core nodes 4 months  ago or these nodes ares spoofed imo.

And Classic pushed pretty hard the last weeks and therefore each success and sign of growth is welcome of course.
And the nodes can be missused for that politics pretty easy.

I mean we have the same with XT nodes last year.

https://coin.dance/nodes/all (https://coin.dance/nodes/all)



This started before that, you're ignoring XT nodes.

Please enlighten me on how to create fake nodes.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: adamstgBit on February 26, 2016, 06:14:07 PM
is this legit  :D

No, it's classic humour. :)
i guess it wouldn't be funny if it was legit


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: jmintuck1912 on February 26, 2016, 07:15:57 PM
After thinking about it, I wondered about legitimacy of this. I wondered, I thought somehow it might not be.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: lister storm on February 26, 2016, 07:40:21 PM
thats crazy, how did they do that? can miners choose on what time to mine a block? i did not think that it is possible, though i can see the classic is gaining more and more popularity


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Denker on February 26, 2016, 07:47:22 PM
Well, considering that most Classic nodes are fake ran over VM + VPS I can see them wasting time to do stuff like this, instead of actually developing code. I guess life is easy when all you have to do is rip off the Core's code and then change a couple of things.

What's a fake node "ran over VM + VPS"?

And you clearly don't understand how open source software works...

Spoofing nodes is pretty easy and cheap for people with a bit of knowledge.I'm not one of those by the way.
So node count is a bad metric paramter.

VM+VPS = virtual machine (Ubuntu as OS for instance)+ virtual private server (via amazon if you like)

I know what VM and VPS are, I don't know is why that is bad or fake...

If it is so easy, why aren't there tens of thousands of nodes?

Bitcoin Core node count is going down as Bitcoin Classic node count is going up, were those Bitcoin Core nodes fake? And now they are fake Bitcoin Classic nodes instead?


That is not accurate because with a bit of money in your pocket you can launch hundreds nodes and more if you want.So pretty easy to manipulate the stats I would say and to use for your propaganda .Possible for both sides of course.

Example:
4 weeks ago, or let's say 24.01.2016 Bitcoin Core nodes had been 4,47k. Today node count of core is 4,43k. A slight difference.And since october 2015 core nodes are hovering around 4,3k to 4,4k.

24.01.2016 Classic nodes had been 5. Today it's 1,09k.

What I interpret of these stats is that core has not dropped a thousand nodes which allegedly switched over to Classic, what a few supporters of Classic claimed!
But Classic has seen a drastic increase 3 weeks ago.Not impossible, because 1 week earlier Classic client was released, but definitely suspicious.So either these Classic nodes had been launched by former core node operators who switched off their core nodes 4 months  ago or these nodes ares spoofed imo.

And Classic pushed pretty hard the last weeks and therefore each success and sign of growth is welcome of course.
And the nodes can be missused for that politics pretty easy.

I mean we have the same with XT nodes last year.

https://coin.dance/nodes/all (https://coin.dance/nodes/all)



This started before that, you're ignoring XT nodes.

Please enlighten me on how to create fake nodes.


Here you go --> https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNode (https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNode)

Quote
PseudoNode is a cryptocurrency full node "emulator".

To the network, PseudoNode behaves the same way as a full node by relaying transactions, blocks, addresses, etc. However, unlike a normal full node, PseudoNode does not verify data (txs & blocks) itself. Rather, PseudoNode relies on neighboring peers (with configurable confidence levels) to do the verification on PseudoNode's behalf. As a result, PseudoNode is very lightweight.

Compared to a normal full node:

    PseudoNode does not require the blockchain to be downloaded.
    PseudoNode can "sync" with the network in seconds.
    PseudoNode supports multiple cryptocurrencies that are Bitcoin derivatives.
    PseudoNode uses no disk space (sans the executable), negligible RAM, and negligible CPU time. PseudoNode also consumes less network resources (data usage/bandwidth) than a normal full node.


Furthermore if you are interested read through this --> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/45zluh/growth_in_classic_nodes_almost_completely_fake/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/45zluh/growth_in_classic_nodes_almost_completely_fake/)

And this --> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/461nvy/node_distributions_based_on_type_and_datacenters/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/461nvy/node_distributions_based_on_type_and_datacenters/)


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: Denker on February 26, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
thats crazy, how did they do that? can miners choose on what time to mine a block? i did not think that it is possible, though i can see the classic is gaining more and more popularity


This graphic is fake!
OP just wanted to show how much love he is having for Bitcoin Core.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pedrog on February 26, 2016, 11:30:20 PM
So, someone is paying 1000 VPSs to host fake nodes?

That's commitment...


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: unamis76 on February 26, 2016, 11:37:49 PM
That was indeed funny :) But I'm curious as to which pool is mining Classic blocks... Looks like Classic is having way more support than XT.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: pedrog on February 26, 2016, 11:46:26 PM
That was indeed funny :) But I'm curious as to which pool is mining Classic blocks... Looks like Classic is having way more support than XT.

Slush and KNCMiner, I believe.


Title: Re: These Bitcoin Classic blocks were perfectly mined! Is this a secret message...
Post by: calkob on February 27, 2016, 12:14:09 AM
This is just stupid and any newbie reading this will prob leave right away and not come back to bitcoin for years because they tought it was rigged in some way, great job.... :-\