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Title: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: GamblingIsWrongWay on March 04, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Minecache on March 04, 2016, 01:54:52 PM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin
No.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: rdnkjdi on March 04, 2016, 02:00:53 PM
No.  Just no.  Fail.

Dash has intentionally starved it's supply by both cutting emissions and utilizing master nodes.  It played the cut supply (not increase demand) angle of the game.  It's reached its full potential


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Snail2 on March 04, 2016, 02:55:42 PM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin

Would you mind to elaborate a bit more why do you think this? You know, a soda machine is a nice start but not going to boost acceptance and exchange rates very long :).


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Nahl on March 04, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin
today DASH prices rise up more than 21% but does not mean the prices will rise and rise again and i think you had only speculate for this and i would says DASH coin won't reach to 0.02 and i'm so sure about that


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Grctest on March 04, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
DAESH?! How can you promote a terrorist cryptocurrency without a guilty conscience?!


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: GamblingIsWrongWay on March 04, 2016, 03:47:55 PM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly

This shit give me 0.03 BTC today  :P


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: HeroCat on March 04, 2016, 03:53:27 PM
Dash is popular, but not so much as Doge. Look Doge is everywhere in altcoin sites. If Dash will start to be much more popular, the yes, it can reach 0.02 like Etherum.  ;)


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Gillette on March 04, 2016, 09:29:45 PM
If a premined ETH reached 0.02 btc, instamined Dash may also reach 0.02 btc  ;D


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 04, 2016, 10:15:56 PM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly
So you're saying I shouldn't buy more? 

I've been intrigued by Dash, as it's clearly intended for dark markets.  Though I don't participate in those markets it does seem like it's a coin that has some utility.  I'm somewhat aware of those issues you mentioned, yet they don't seem to affect the coin much.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 04, 2016, 10:56:29 PM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly
So you're saying I shouldn't buy more?  

I've been intrigued by Dash, as it's clearly intended for dark markets.  Though I don't participate in those markets it does seem like it's a coin that has some utility.  I'm somewhat aware of those issues you mentioned, yet they don't seem to affect the coin much.

trust me on this one, it only effects trolls like AdamWhite in a disturbingly bad way
and we know this from experience as Adam is addicted to trolling our Dash ANN forum with his hate and lies.

to answer OP's question if Dash will reach 0.02 ? sure it can, question is when.
 
I suspect the "when" will be related to either Bitcoin possibly getting into serious problems with its transaction confirmations (major delays causing people to look for alternatives) or during the build up towards
the release of Dash Evolution (which will take some time) or other major opportunistic events that benefits Dash greatly (OpenBazaar for example or a new decentralised exchange adding Dash).
Or it could simply be whales stretching their muscles at some point in time....

edit : to be honest i could be underestimating Dash's ability to dash forward when least exspected....


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: cryptohunter on March 05, 2016, 12:26:26 AM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly
So you're saying I shouldn't buy more?  

I've been intrigued by Dash, as it's clearly intended for dark markets.  Though I don't participate in those markets it does seem like it's a coin that has some utility.  I'm somewhat aware of those issues you mentioned, yet they don't seem to affect the coin much.

trust me on this one, it only effects trolls like AdamWhite in a disturbingly bad way
and we know this from experience as Adam is addicted to trolling our Dash ANN forum with his hate and lies.

to answer OP's question if Dash will reach 0.02 ? sure it can, question is when.
 
I suspect the "when" will be related to either Bitcoin possibly getting into serious problems with its transaction confirmations (major delays causing people to look for alternatives) or during the build up towards
the release of Dash Evolution (which will take some time) or other major opportunistic events that benefits Dash greatly (OpenBazaar for example or a new decentralised exchange adding Dash).
Or it could simply be whales stretching their muscles at some point in time....

edit : to be honest i could be underestimating Dash's ability to dash forward when least exspected....

Seems like he tells the truth to me and everyone else who has looked at the FACTS regarding dash's history??

What lies does he tell? let's examine them in full now?


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 05, 2016, 01:28:04 AM
Lets stay on topic for a change shall we ? If you cant tell from reading AdamWhite's posts and viewing his posting history
that your dealing with a frustrated low level troll then there is nothing to talk about anyways...

So anyone else think Dash can reach 0.02 ? (Trying to steer this discussion back on topic)

Edit : maybe OP should have included a poll, would made it more easy to stay on topic for certain people  ::)


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: stoat on March 05, 2016, 01:40:25 AM
"Like ethereum". Well, Ethereum is already above that.  And there is no way in hell Dash is gonna get to 0.02


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: generalizethis on March 05, 2016, 01:44:53 AM
Lets stay on topic for a change shall we ? If you cant tell from reading AdamWhite's posts and viewing his posting history
that your dealing with a frustrated low level troll then there is nothing to talk about anyways...

So anyone else think Dash can reach 0.02 ? (Trying to steer this discussion back on topic)

I'll help, Qwizzie.

Dash has some pretty horrendous flaws: namely X11 and Darksend.

X11: If one chain can be attacked then the whole thing is vulnerable--you essentially load a bunch of people on a bus and hope one doesn't have a virus. I've pointed this out to Evan, as have others, but he has yet to address it. He has stated incorrectly that you just roll the chain back and get rid of the broken one--this is patently false as the broken chain can exist for some time and go unnoticed and do so much damage in that time that no roll-back can save the coin--he's essentially saying, "We can just kick the sick person off the bus and that gets rid of the contagion," meanwhile everyone on the bus is already infected.

Darksend, besides its twenty hour mix times, is flawed because of centralization and the fact that TPTB can subpoena control (or use other methods such as coercion) to gain enough nodes to break anonymity. I would suggest that Evan owns enough to break most anonymity and a fincen investigation hanging over his head would be enough to coerce him into helping the US government break dash's weak anonymity--that is if dash ever gained enough market to garner governmental interest (and that's a huge if). Cryptosystems are meant to be anti-fragile, especially against governmental pressures, and this is why well-built cryptosystems avoid centralized solutions.

These two flaws lead me to believe Evan has a very weak understanding of cryptosystems (I have just a casual interest and I understand these things, so for a developer to not know them is pretty unforgivable).


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 05, 2016, 01:45:58 AM
Lets stay on topic for a change shall we ? If you cant tell from reading AdamWhite's posts and viewing his posting history
that your dealing with a frustrated low level troll then there is nothing to talk about anyways...

So anyone else think Dash can reach 0.02 ? (Trying to steer this discussion back on topic)

Edit : maybe OP should have included a poll, would made it more easy to stay on topic for certain people  ::)
Yeah man, I definitely think it can.  I actually like Dash as a coin (I like doge too, but that's another story) and I'm slowly accumulating it.  We'll see how this whole altcoin bubble plays out.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 05, 2016, 01:50:58 AM
Dash did reach 0.017 already this year (21 january 2016), so i am keeping an open mind about it too


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: cryptohunter on March 05, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
Lets stay on topic for a change shall we ? If you cant tell from reading AdamWhite's posts and viewing his posting history
that your dealing with a frustrated low level troll then there is nothing to talk about anyways...

So anyone else think Dash can reach 0.02 ? (Trying to steer this discussion back on topic)

Edit : maybe OP should have included a poll, would made it more easy to stay on topic for certain people  ::)

I see nothing but him telling the truth about the origins of dash.

You said he is lying. Let's see.

Dash is and always has been a scam.

If you want an anon coin then you have xmr.

There is no need for dash.



Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 05, 2016, 01:54:51 AM
Dash is and always has been a scam.

If you want an anon coin then you have xmr.

There is no need for dash.


http://oi63.tinypic.com/2ronzer.jpg


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 05, 2016, 02:18:52 AM
So much for staying on topic  ::)

Anyways i gave my opinion about this threads topic and at times i like to go off topic as much as the next guy
but with an x amount of time and an x amount of energy i have certain choices to make. One of these choices
involves getting some sleep.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: generalizethis on March 05, 2016, 02:33:13 AM
So much for staying on topic  ::)

Anyways i gave my opinion about this threads topic and at times i like to go off topic as much as the next guy
but with an x amount of time and an x amount of energy i have certain choices to make. One of these choices
involves getting some sleep.


I thought the topic was "dash will reach 0.002 like ethereum..?", not how can Qwizzie turn this into a shillithon? Am I wrong? Did I misread the title? Nope, so here's why I say no, dash won't reach parity with the current ethereum price:

Dash has some pretty horrendous flaws: namely X11 and Darksend.

X11: If one chain can be attacked then the whole thing is vulnerable--you essentially load a bunch of people on a bus and hope one doesn't have a virus. I've pointed this out to Evan, as have others, but he has yet to address it. He has stated incorrectly that you just roll the chain back and get rid of the broken one--this is patently false as the broken chain can exist for some time and go unnoticed and do so much damage in that time that no roll-back can save the coin--he's essentially saying, "We can just kick the sick person off the bus and that gets rid of the contagion," meanwhile everyone on the bus is already infected.

Darksend, besides its twenty hour mix times, is flawed because of centralization and the fact that TPTB can subpoena control (or use other methods such as coercion) to gain enough nodes to break anonymity. I would suggest that Evan owns enough to break most anonymity and a fincen investigation hanging over his head would be enough to coerce him into helping the US government break dash's weak anonymity--that is if dash ever gained enough market to garner governmental interest (and that's a huge if). Cryptosystems are meant to be anti-fragile, especially against governmental pressures, and this is why well-built cryptosystems avoid centralized solutions.

These two flaws lead me to believe Evan has a very weak understanding of cryptosystems (I have just a casual interest and I understand these things, so for a developer to not know them is pretty unforgivable).


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: toknormal on March 05, 2016, 10:15:46 AM
Dash has intentionally starved it's supply by both cutting emissions and utilizing master nodes.  It played the cut supply (not increase demand) angle of the game.  It's reached its full potential

The reason Dash is rising and is simple.

It is the only bitcoin commercially compatible, pure currency clone that is pursuing a true cash model of electronic money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12638377#msg12638377) by enhancing bitcoin's monetary properties while supporting a transparent blockchain at the same time.

A monetary medium that is at once:

 - transparent
 - immediate (in terms of exchange)
 - scales natively without recourse to a scaffolded superstructure
 - enhances fungibility natively without recourse to obfuscation

i.e. "Cash" in it's most native form that even complies with emerging mainstream definitions (http://www.scribd.com/doc/292980742/Instant-Revolution-of-Payments).

It also is finding vindication of the various technical approaches it's taken over the last couple of years because that approach has singularly preserved the most important aspect of its original design - total bitcoin compatability in terms of POW mining paradigm and commercial interface - by means of articulating the blockchain protocol to support 2nd logic tier that's both integrated and independent.

That's what's enabled it to unleash the decentralised governance mechanism that's now attracting loads of high quality candidate (https://www.dashwhale.org/p/Proof_of_Labour) programmes.

As for "restricting supply", Dash has established what I call a "reserve currency market (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12549331#msg12549331)" that's no different from sticking your money in a bank and getting a return on it. It isn't restricting supply at all, it's called doing something for people. It's them that's "restricting the supply" by not dumping it.

Holders that get these type of notifications flying across their desktop every few days are simply less inclined to send their coins to market:

https://i.imgur.com/0q2RArM.png

It seems to be proving popular. This trend remains unbroken for a full 18 months (http://178.254.18.153/~pub/masternode_count.png) now and shows no signs of letting up. It's a virtuous cycle because holders are getting a return, the network's getting ever stronger and the roadmap that's being implemented is becoming ever more credible.

https://i.imgur.com/fbwaIiQ.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12549331#msg12549331)

Whatever amounts of technical FUD gets thrown at it, monetary researchers observe that Dash is a highly advanced financial medium - almost uncontested according to some.

Reaching 0.02 ? As an mere starter.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: stealth923 on March 05, 2016, 11:25:39 AM
Dash will go alot higher than 0.02.....its the only serious coin thats chasing a true digital cash.

Not if, but when...


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: generalizethis on March 05, 2016, 01:28:52 PM

Whatever amounts of technical FUD gets thrown at it, monetary researchers observe that Dash is a highly advanced financial medium - almost uncontested according to some.

Reaching 0.02 ? As an mere starter.


Do these same "monetary researchers" (citations please) tell you that lending dash on polo can get you a better return than a masternode? Seems your economic model has a BIG chink in its armor, but why let "technical FUD" get in the way of your shilling?


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 05, 2016, 01:47:34 PM
something to think about : https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/dashbtc/1w
This chart is put on the longest interval (1W) by the way

https://i.imgur.com/yGpW91m.jpg

Lets just say its starting to look really interesting....


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: GamblingIsWrongWay on March 10, 2016, 03:28:57 AM
If a premined ETH reached 0.02 btc, instamined Dash may also reach 0.02 btc  ;D

maybe reach 0.1  :P


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: owm123 on March 10, 2016, 05:25:21 AM
Dash is and always has been a scam.

If you want an anon coin then you have xmr.

There is no need for dash.


http://oi63.tinypic.com/2ronzer.jpg

Not everyone knows that. For example, Amanda B. Johnson says Dash is most likely to replace bitcoin:
http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/education-centre/bitcoin-is-the-slowest-most-expensive-least-developed-currency/

:-)


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 10, 2016, 05:40:27 AM
Dash is and always has been a scam.

If you want an anon coin then you have xmr.

There is no need for dash.


http://oi63.tinypic.com/2ronzer.jpg

Not everyone knows that. For example, Amanda B. Johnson says Dash is most likely to replace bitcoin:
http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/education-centre/bitcoin-is-the-slowest-most-expensive-least-developed-currency/

:-)

You mean Amanda from DailyDash, which is sponsored by Evan's "accidental" Instamine?

Maybe after Dash Classic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1335693.0) pays her $75, she'll say that it's also The Next Bitcoin®.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: mkc on March 10, 2016, 08:13:38 AM
Dash is actually can be used to buy stuff, there is someone using it. It has been stable around .01 for a long while now. As long as it stays, probably it will, it will have its day.
Dash is not as sexy as Bitcoin 2.0


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Days on March 10, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
What's up with Monero bashing Dash for as ever as I was interested on alt coins!

All I see is jealousy & hate, jealousy because Dash has many uniq features that I don't even know why Monero even hating on because as far as I know Monero is all about making websites instead of making crypto just like the main developer FluffyPony making that gambling site taking 10% of profits with another core developer taking 21000 Monero's for free too?! How I am suppose to believe that was just pure luck lol

I also don't understand how they call Dash a scam because of their start issue while Monero had the same problem with a more screwed up start issue with how the main developer just LET GO of he's work? and I am suppose to just ignore that as well?

Stop hating if you can't innovate like Evan and he's team; you do realize that out of like 500 coins out there most of them have a GUI wallet while you're developers busy making profit from making scammy websites? fixing bugs does NOT give you the title of a developer either.


Also stop spamming other coins Dash or not, it making you look like cry babies man. I wonder how this forums would be without the Monero spam/hate threads.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: sofu on March 10, 2016, 08:54:34 AM
What's up with Monero bashing Dash for as ever as I was interested on alt coins!


Its the fight for public money. They all need new peoples money to sell their bags. This will never end  ;)


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: mrcashking on March 10, 2016, 10:04:10 AM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin
Dash could go to 0.05 too and all it takes is a pump like Ether.Welcome to the world of crypto-currencies  ;)

What's up with Monero bashing Dash for as ever as I was interested on alt coins!


Its the fight for public money. They all need new peoples money to sell their bags. This will never end  ;)
To be honest yes.If there was an actual use of any currency then it would have sky rocketed already and have replaced many weak fiat systems up till now but it is just to make more money in the end.



Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: parmatiya on March 10, 2016, 11:52:28 AM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly

If they reduce the coin numbers from 84 million to 21 million, then it is very bad for later miners and investors.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: GamblingIsWrongWay on March 10, 2016, 12:28:16 PM
The accumulation will be ended soon after we reach 0.015 the buy wall will be more strong......
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Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 10, 2016, 06:35:03 PM
BTC38 added DASH/BTC pair recentely (today ?) , making it the second largest traded Dash volume over the last 24 hours
Dash price up 12%
Current price 0.01248

Registered exchanges on Coinmarketcap trading Dash  : Top 5
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/#markets
https://i.imgur.com/OmEtUuX.jpg

BTC38 : Not registered yet on Coinmarketcap as Dash trading exchange but looks to be having the second largest Dash traded volume with 192 BTC
http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=dash
https://i.imgur.com/5EXd2lx.jpg

Impressive ...
Welcome Chinese traders  ;D


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: watashi-kokoto on March 10, 2016, 11:59:05 PM
Well dash is dash.

Let's show green confirmation in the client the moment tx is recieved. what the fuck could go wrong?

Yeah  what? You know , like , the miners not giving a fuck about instax promise from some central server? And mining doublespend just to piss Duffield out. Then duffield comes and says chain is invalid this payment was later, my server says so.

and if chain is invalid because few central server said so, then what's the point of mining.

the censtral servers can confirm the payments from the start!

you can have bunch of central servers confirming payments Ripple or Paypal -style. And add 1 coin every second to own balance herp mining derp

B..BUT BITCOIN CANNOT SODA MACHINE


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 26, 2016, 02:18:38 PM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin
today DASH prices rise up more than 21% but does not mean the prices will rise and rise again and i think you had only speculate for this and i would says DASH coin won't reach to 0.02 and i'm so sure about that


still so sure about that ?  :P

https://i.imgur.com/w3qc4zS.jpg



Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 26, 2016, 02:35:49 PM
to OP : i'm thinking it will reach 0.02 within three weeks.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Falmant on March 26, 2016, 02:45:20 PM
to OP : i'm thinking it will reach 0.02 within three weeks.

The price is 0.017. So it is possible.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: cryptohunter on March 26, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
Dash is a shitcoin.

Shit mixing, shit instamine, shit supply reduction from 84 million to 21 million (after the shit instamine), shit deceptive development team.

It's the definition of a shitcoin. Their clown of a developer Evan Duffield is too scared to do an interview because he'd incriminate himself by answering the tough questions honestly

If they reduce the coin numbers from 84 million to 21 million, then it is very bad for later miners and investors.

You should have seen how bad it was for day 1 miners too.

See it's like this

You own 0.05% of dash minting if you are lucky or a scammer or (much higher % if you are dev or his friends at the start)

But

Sell that dirty scam coin and own 0.5% of an up and coming dash clone with no scam captive instamine, reduced minting and no bad history on this board.

It's simple.



Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 26, 2016, 05:00:58 PM
to OP : i'm thinking it will reach 0.02 within three weeks.

The price is 0.017. So it is possible.

To be honest i think the price will go a lot higher then 0.02 in a few years, as a lot of things work in favor of holding Dash longterm instead of selling shortterm.
Some key elements to understand :

- Masternode Network : a decentralised network of full nodes that get rewarded for providing services to the network. 45% per block reward is going towards masternodes and the number of masternodes  is growing fast (see my signture for details). This will have an impact on the liquidity of Dash over time as each masternode needs to have 1000 Dash in collateral (on a cold wallet in full control of masternode owner) to verify to the network its running as a masternode, making available supply for the market less and less in time (creating scarcety)

- Decentralised Governance and Budget System : masternode owners get to vote over budget proposals from the dev team and from the community, thereby giving them influence over Dash's path forward. 10% per block reward goes to this decentralised budget system. Sell the collateral and you are giving up on voting over budget proposals and you are also giving up on receiving steady masternode payments (12% per year, scheduled to decrease over time)  

- Miners : GPU and recentely ASIC miners have less impact then other cryptocurrencies due to Dash two-tier system (miners + masternodes). Miners just like masternodes receive 45% per block reward.

The more the price rises, the more valuable both the masternode/miner payments and the budget funds get. This leads to increasingly more money (FIAT) getting available for development and other projects that directly benefits Dash and its ecosystem (currently its mostly masternode related, all kind of companies and services have popped up lately with regards to hosting and or sharing masternodes, basicly stepping in this little new market thats Dash has created for itself).

To summarize : Dash isnt just a cryptocurrency, a price you see somewhere on coinmarketcap .. its a cryptocurrency that is creating its own ecosystem of services that will directly benefit Dash and its focussing on not just anonymity but on all aspects of money to make digital cash work (anonymity, instant transactions, fully fungeable coins, low fees, decentralised budget and governance) while keeping close taps on Bitcoin
(Bitcoin updates are fully implemented in Dash, making it very easy for merchants who use Bitcoin as paymentmethode to also include Dash)      


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Nxtblg on March 26, 2016, 07:19:59 PM
to OP : i'm thinking it will reach 0.02 within three weeks.

The price is 0.017. So it is possible.

In this kind of market, it's possible; sure. But will it last? I honestly don't know. When DASH was flying high - back when it was still Darkcoin - it did get up to 0.02 but it didn't get much farther. Over the very long term, 0.02 is close to the ceiling and nowhere near the floor.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Days on March 26, 2016, 07:35:17 PM
Didn't DASH reach .02+ like 3 times already? and man this thread is mad full of Monero haters lol.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: ArticMine on March 26, 2016, 09:17:07 PM
Dash reached a high of 0.028 XBT in May 2014 and a lower high of 0.025 XBT in March 2015 so Dash reaching 0.02 is not that big a deal. The real question is will Dash break 0.025 XBT? https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dash (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dash). For those that wish to compare Dash with Monero the DASH/XMR chart is relevant. https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash (https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash) The historical trading range for Dash has been between 4 and 6.5 XMR with a couple of tops up to 17.215 XMR and 15.2 XMR. As in the case with Bitcoin the second top is the lower of the two.

On the upside I would watch 0.025 XBT for Dash. On the downside I would watch 4 XMR for Dash.

Edit: Added Dash/XMR chart.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 27, 2016, 05:18:09 AM
Dash reached a high of 0.028 XBT in May 2014 and a lower high of 0.025 XBT in March 2015 so Dash reaching 0.02 is not that big a deal. The real question is will Dash break 0.025 XBT? https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dash (https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_dash). For those that wish to compare Dash with Monero the DASH/XMR chart is relevant. https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash (https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash) The historical trading range for Dash has been between 4 and 6.5 XMR with a couple of tops up to 17.215 XMR and 15.2 XMR. As in the case with Bitcoin the second top is the lower of the two.

On the upside I would watch 0.025 XBT for Dash. On the downside I would watch 4 XMR for Dash.

Edit: Added Dash/XMR chart.

DARKCOIN, not DASH, reached that high in 2014.

DASH is a different project than DARKCOIN (many DRK supporters and devs left thanks to Evan's sudden dictatorial whim).  DASH never reached its pre-rebrand hype price, much less DRK's ATH.   ;D

The rebrand was a change in focus and objectives, not just a name change for the lulz.  The market gave Xcoin's second pivot a big thumbs down, just as it's now doing for Xcoin's third pivot to Evolution (yet another platform-as-a-platform ETH wannabee).


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: adhitthana on March 27, 2016, 05:42:28 AM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin
As long as Masternodes don't sell it could go up. With all those coins locked up in MN's there is a small supply. You just have to keep demand greater than the small supply. Dash holders seem to have very strong faith in Dash...so we could see quite a bubble


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 27, 2016, 05:55:24 AM
Dash holders seem to have very strong faith in Dash...so we could see quite a bubble

We already saw the bubbles, they happened back when what later became Dash was called Darkcoin.  No chance of that happening again, given the dev's demonstrated history of subjecting the project to his mood swings and the latest passing fad (privacy, instant tx, smartchains).

You're right about the very strong faith though.  DashHoles think like cargo cultists and act like Scientologists.

I haven't seen an intensely reality-hostile crypto-personality cult like Evan's Gate since ActiveMining and the "true believer" followers of LabKen.   ::)


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: BagHolder010 on March 27, 2016, 06:50:16 AM
Dash holders seem to have very strong faith in Dash...so we could see quite a bubble

We already saw the bubbles, they happened back when what later became Dash was called Darkcoin.  No chance of that happening again, given the dev's demonstrated history of subjecting the project to his mood swings and the latest passing fad (privacy, instant tx, smartchains).

You're right about the very strong faith though.  DashHoles think like cargo cultists and act like Scientologists.

I haven't seen an intensely reality-hostile crypto-personality cult like Evan's Gate since ActiveMining and the "true believer" followers of LabKen.   ::)

I would not take anything IceBreaker's say srs; if this forum does not know yet he is this scammer https://hashfastscam.wordpress.com/
Eduardo deCastro. Known as the biggest troll of Dash and big time supporter of Monero.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: LitcoinCollector on March 27, 2016, 07:29:51 AM
I think dash can rach 0.02 like Etherum
dash is better than other coin The bestcoin

You mean this year right? (Dash has reached 0.02+ twice already in the past.)
I think the money is shifting to new crypto.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 27, 2016, 07:30:55 AM
Dash holders seem to have very strong faith in Dash...so we could see quite a bubble

We already saw the bubbles, they happened back when what later became Dash was called Darkcoin.  No chance of that happening again, given the dev's demonstrated history of subjecting the project to his mood swings and the latest passing fad (privacy, instant tx, smartchains).

You're right about the very strong faith though.  DashHoles think like cargo cultists and act like Scientologists.

I haven't seen an intensely reality-hostile crypto-personality cult like Evan's Gate since ActiveMining and the "true believer" followers of LabKen.   ::)

I would not take anything IceBreaker's say srs; if this forum does not know yet he is this scammer https://hashfastscam.wordpress.com/
Eduardo deCastro. Known as the biggest troll of Dash and big time supporter of Monero.

See what I mean about acting like Scientologists?  "Evengelical" DashHoles attack-the-attacker (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/cooper/sos-09.html) when anyone talks about Dash's instamine, bad crypto, and snake oil marketing.
Quote
Scientologists ATTACK THE ATTACKER! - YouTube
Criticize a Scientologist and STAND BACK. The Church will attack you and hard just like it did to journalist John Sweeney as seen in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpCF48B7gZ0


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: BitcoinNational on March 27, 2016, 02:43:24 PM
Lets stay on topic for a change shall we ? If you cant tell from reading AdamWhite's posts and viewing his posting history
that your dealing with a frustrated low level troll then there is nothing to talk about anyways...

So anyone else think Dash can reach 0.02 ? (Trying to steer this discussion back on topic)

I'll help, Qwizzie.

Dash has some pretty horrendous flaws: namely X11 and Darksend.

X11: If one chain can be attacked then the whole thing is vulnerable--you essentially load a bunch of people on a bus and hope one doesn't have a virus. I've pointed this out to Evan, as have others, but he has yet to address it. He has stated incorrectly that you just roll the chain back and get rid of the broken one--this is patently false as the broken chain can exist for some time and go unnoticed and do so much damage in that time that no roll-back can save the coin--he's essentially saying, "We can just kick the sick person off the bus and that gets rid of the contagion," meanwhile everyone on the bus is already infected.

Darksend, besides its twenty hour mix times, is flawed because of centralization and the fact that TPTB can subpoena control (or use other methods such as coercion) to gain enough nodes to break anonymity. I would suggest that Evan owns enough to break most anonymity and a fincen investigation hanging over his head would be enough to coerce him into helping the US government break dash's weak anonymity--that is if dash ever gained enough market to garner governmental interest (and that's a huge if). Cryptosystems are meant to be anti-fragile, especially against governmental pressures, and this is why well-built cryptosystems avoid centralized solutions.

These two flaws lead me to believe Evan has a very weak understanding of cryptosystems (I have just a casual interest and I understand these things, so for a developer to not know them is pretty unforgivable).


and on the market front
the BIG5 (which Dash has the #5 spot)

all need independent (from BTC) fiat markets
Dash has not show the ability to establish it's spot at the Top Tier
This means VC capital and ultra secure top level markets ... exactly the opposite of Polo and Rex ... the big leagues where investors feel comfortable with $500k in their brokers hands ... aka the establishment.

FINSEC players
BTC is it.  The big Kahunna!
ETH will get there based on the performance it has had Q1 2016.
XRP was built specifically for Top Tier finance.
LTC has a toe in the water with the CNY, China.
Doge has more exchange adoption than DASH.
And lots more have established connections with professional FINSEC players/markets.

Where is DASH?


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on March 27, 2016, 03:27:45 PM
asking a decentralised cryptocurrency "where it is" kinda sounds ironic
but rest assured BitcoinNational, Dash will be tackling the issues you mentioned in the nearby future:

https://www.dashwhale.org/p/payment-processor
https://www.dashwhale.org/p/dash-debit-card

Thats the beauty of Dash's decentralised budget system, if something is missing or is needed
budget proposals emerge to take care of it.

    


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Bavaria on March 27, 2016, 07:55:25 PM
Dash will always be the same instamined shit regardless of its price. Crappy mixers that take hours to mix and transactions that can be traced.


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: Lukas_Jackson on April 05, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
...

Let it be. You are another loser who denied buying BTC when it was at $1-$4 and bought at $1000 because of price.
Am I right? :-*


Title: Re: dash will reach 0.02 like Etherum..?
Post by: qwizzie on April 05, 2016, 06:14:18 PM

and on the market front
the BIG5 (which Dash has the #5 spot)

all need independent (from BTC) fiat markets
Dash has not show the ability to establish it's spot at the Top Tier
This means VC capital and ultra secure top level markets ... exactly the opposite of Polo and Rex ... the big leagues where investors feel comfortable with $500k in their brokers hands ... aka the establishment.

FINSEC players
BTC is it.  The big Kahunna!
ETH will get there based on the performance it has had Q1 2016.
XRP was built specifically for Top Tier finance.
LTC has a toe in the water with the CNY, China.
Doge has more exchange adoption than DASH.
And lots more have established connections with professional FINSEC players/markets.

Where is DASH?


Appearently the Dash dev-team was thinking about this a lot more in depth then any of us could have guessed :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/prioritization-of-fiat-gateways.8457/

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Fiat access ramps development will be prioritized by the core team over PR and advertising during the next few months, starting in March. With certain small exceptions like Dash Chinese promotion in tandem with 8BTC.
For the next few months we will be focusing in partnerships, integrations and open source tools development that will facilitate better access to DASH and more options for user services to clear transactions on. Starting in March “public-awareness” budget funds are dedicated to this purpose as this is higher priority than advertising for the core team at the moment.  Also, a series of back end open source tools will be made available for anyone looking to offer Dash services.


Budget prioritization, 12.1 and budget reset



The new 12.1 release will introduce new contracts functionality to DGBB. This version should be on testnet within the next month. When it is released into the mainnet all existing budgets will be cleared as part of the updating process and will need to be voted back in, on the new version.
At that point in time both the core-team and public-awareness budget proposals will be over and the core team will request new funding under a different model. We are currently working on it and more information will be released before 12.1 goes to the mainnet.
This is important to answer the question of why we are redirecting the public-awareness funds to build fiat access ramps instead voting down current proposals. The answer is, we will clear current core team proposals and will do it as part of the 12.1 release. This should give us enough time to finish preparing our new budget plan. In the meantime, the core project needs continuity so we kindly ask you to bear with us under the current model for 3 or 4 more months depending on testing results.
What are we working on?

Open Source - FIAT ACCESS RAMPS


The core team sees a need to strengthen direct FIAT access ramps to Dash in order to move into our next growth phase. We need to nurture the development of a rich ecosystem of user oriented applications.
Different user oriented applications are being created for Dash, like crypto ATMs, point of sale solutions, payment gateways, etc.  Nevertheless we are currently missing one fundamental layer - all these user applications need more liquid and better FIAT – DASH exchange services to clear on, including fixed price broker services, instant FIAT exchange, bid/ask FIAT exchanges, etc.

Exchanges are part of the basic infrastructure of the crypto economy, they can be thought about as public infrastructure. Without proper FIAT exchange services is harder for an asset to be independent and find a proper valuation.
Major FIAT exchanges are primarily interested in adding assets that already have high volume and high market cap and are less willing to support projects through their growing phase. So after an asset has established itself on all the major altcoin exchanges there is a gap. We are left with a catch 22 situation, not high enough volume for the large FIAT exchanges to open a trading pair and in need of safe and proper FIAT exchanges to grow and raise our volumes to where they would be interesting to larger exchanges and institutional investment. Also, legacy exchanges do not seem to have the intention to support a safer multi-sig user experience in the short term.
Because of this Dash is partnering with well reputed Bitcoin service operators to create proper FIAT Exchange services for DASH that are trustless, open source and built with the end user in mind.  For this we are funding development of a suite of backend tools and integrations that will enable DASH/FIAT trustless exchange in partnership with Deginner, Coinapult and CryptoCapital.
We have decided to redirect the public-awareness budget funds to building these access ramps for the next few months. All projects will have to be reset in more or less 3 months and all budget proposals will have to be taken out and then voted back into the new version, so we don’t want to go through this process twice.  We also feel very strongly about this project and what it will represent for the Dash community


Safer FIAT Integration (CryptoCapital.co)



As part of this project, Dash will be integrated with CryptoCapital.co which is a fully licensed financial institution that allows each user to have their own private segregated fiat account. The funds that the user deposits to their own FIAT account can be made instantly available for trading on the exchange services. This is a key difference, the fact that each user will initially be sending money to themselves and then once those funds are available at CryptoCapital they can choose to move them to an exchange service and trade instantly.
Also besides exchange integration, CryptoCapital offers other services that will be available to Dash users too.

From their website:

“By providing each customer with their own private segregated fiat account, Crypto Capital is able to allow Approved Software Exchange Companies the ability to open an account with us, therefore allowing our Customers, Merchants, and Traders the ability to move Fiat Currency, USD, EUR, JPY, etc., in and out instantly within our accounts.

There will no longer be lag when transferring funds between a customer private fiat account with us and the exchange account. Any Crypto Currency sold on the exchange could be funded back directly to the customer's private account instantly and then these funds may be withdrawn from the account which can be accessed worldwide via a Visa Debit Card issued on behalf of the customer, or other traditional means of fund transfer, SEPA, EFT, ACH, Swift, etc.
•A Private Individual/Corporate International Fiat account in your control.
•Support for more than 30 different Fiat Currencies; USD, JPY, EUR etc. transact in your own currency.
•The option for a Visa Debit Card with the ability to withdraw funds at any ATM worldwide, purchase goods and services on line and pay bills.
•Several open Exchange platforms to convert Fiat Currency to any Crypto Currency and vice versa.
•Corporate Merchant accounts for Companies that deal directly with the Crypto Currency economy and are in need for a Fiat Currency account to manage their own operations”

All of these services will be available for Dash users, merchants and service providers. For example, this will allow services like Node40 to have a safe and compliant way for users to move FIAT directly into running masternodes.

Coinapult Integration

As part of this project, Dash will be integrated to Coinapult. Coinapult is a Bitcoin wallet service provider. Coinapult offers online consumer and B2B services to a global market. It was founded in 2012 by Ira Miller and Erik Voorhees and was the first to offer bitcoin e-wallet services by email and SMS. In 2014, Coinapult was first to market with Locks, a service to help mitigate the price volatility of Bitcoin.
Ira Miller sold Coinapult in 2015 and remains an external advisor and provider of backend tools. Current CEO of Coinapult Gabriel Sukenik is leading the company to new frontiers, they recently integrated with Mycelium to offer Bitcoin locking services directly from the Mycelium app.
Coinapult will be integrating Dash to all of their existing services which include fully convertible USD accounts for DASH. Dash will be the first crypto-currency, other than Bitcoin, to be added to this service.
More partners are expected to join this consortium over time. For example, Mycelium is already integrated with Coinapult. With Dash’s being added to Coinapult too, that brings us one step closer to convertible to USD mobile accounts.


Open Source Backend Tools Development

In order to make these partnerships and integrations possible, Deginner will develop the following open source tools for DASH.


·  Multi-sig wallet and cosigner hosting (e.g. Deglet, Copay)

·  Broker (e.g. Coinapult, Shapeshift)

·  Bid/Ask exchange

·  Traditional financial services (e.g. Crypto Capital, Vogogo)

·  Market makers and liquidity providers