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Title: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: xht on March 07, 2016, 07:44:05 AM
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea on Monday threatened to launch nuclear strikes at the United States and its military bases in Northeast Asia as the United States and South Korea began one of their annual large-scale joint military exercises.

Thousands of American Marines and other troops arrived in South Korea in the past week for the exercises, which will involve 17,000 American and 300,000 South Korean troops. The drills test the allies’ ability to respond to North Korean attacks on the Korean Peninsula.

North Korea has made similar threats before, characterizing the exercises as rehearsals for an invasion. But this year, tensions are raised even higher because of the North’s recent nuclear test and the ensuing international condemnations.

Last month, after the North launched a long-range rocket to put a satellite into orbit, the South Korean Defense Ministry announced that this year’s drills would be the largest ever. The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier John C. Stennis will join the exercises, the American and South Korean militaries said in a joint statement on Monday.

In its statement, North Korea threatened to launch “all-out offensive” and “pre-emptive” nuclear strikes against “U.S. imperialist aggressor forces bases in the Asia-Pacific region and the U.S. mainland,” the North’s top governing agency, the National Defense Commission, said in the statement.

The statement was carried by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency.

“If we push the buttons to annihilate the enemies even right now, all bases of provocations will be reduced to seas in flames and ashes in a moment,” the statement said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/07/world/asia/north-korea-threatens-nuclear-attack-as-us-and-south-korea-begin-drills.html?ref=world


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Jstalk on March 07, 2016, 08:25:30 AM
Does anyone still believe that North Korea will launch a nuclear attack?
It`s a comedy. ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: croato on March 07, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
It is not first time Kim threatens with nuclear attacks, he was doing same thing before three years but most possibly he still cant mount his nuclear devices and deliver. In my opinion, he is just exploring power that nuclear weapons give to him but it is horrifying one psychopath control such weapon. If no one stop him before, he will sooner or later have H bombs and rockets capable to make his threats real and then will be very hard to do anything about. I think that guy is crazy enough to order nuclear attack and his slaves retarded enough to obey command and hit red button no sweat.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bitsmichel on March 07, 2016, 01:05:21 PM
Does anyone still believe that North Korea will launch a nuclear attack?
It`s a comedy. ;D ;D ;D
Comedy? They can do serious damage in South Korea and Japan.
If the superpowers wanted, North Korea would be gone in 3 months.
There is nothing to gain in North Korea for them.



Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 07, 2016, 01:46:54 PM
If the superpowers wanted, North Korea would be gone in 3 months.
There is nothing to gain in North Korea for them.

The problem is that along with North Korea, Japan and South Korea will be gone as well (probably Taiwan and Hawaii as well). Do you want 300 million dead people? Just ignore the fat boy, and everything will be fine. He is not going to launch any nukes, unless someone invades DPRK first. So until Hitlery become the POTUS, there is no chance of a North Korean nuke attack.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: coinzat on March 07, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
I think these threats are just talking and will not happen for real because it is not the first time for North Korea to do so.
I even doubt if they have a Nuclear bombs or they are still trying to create it


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: doriangray on March 08, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
Given the large number of brainwashed troops in the North, the short distance to key positions in the South, and the assumption that the North will use nuclear weapons or WMDs when stressed, a quick U.S. tactical nuclear response with smaller warheads seems likely if the North invades the South in force. China would do a lot of posturing and eventually come in to pick up the burned pieces.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bitsmichel on March 08, 2016, 08:23:28 AM
Given the large number of brainwashed troops in the North, the short distance to key positions in the South, and the assumption that the North will use nuclear weapons or WMDs when stressed, a quick U.S. tactical nuclear response with smaller warheads seems likely if the North invades the South in force. China would do a lot of posturing and eventually come in to pick up the burned pieces.
That depends on relations with China. I think long distances missles and ground troops are more likely than nuclear missles.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: JesusHadAegis on March 08, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
Given the large number of brainwashed troops in the North, the short distance to key positions in the South, and the assumption that the North will use nuclear weapons or WMDs when stressed, a quick U.S. tactical nuclear response with smaller warheads seems likely if the North invades the South in force. China would do a lot of posturing and eventually come in to pick up the burned pieces.
That depends on relations with China. I think long distances missles and ground troops are more likely than nuclear missles.

Country alongside would also be caught as collateral.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Betwrong on March 08, 2016, 09:44:23 AM
If the superpowers wanted, North Korea would be gone in 3 months.
There is nothing to gain in North Korea for them.

The problem is that along with North Korea, Japan and South Korea will be gone as well (probably Taiwan and Hawaii as well). Do you want 300 million dead people? Just ignore the fat boy, and everything will be fine. He is not going to launch any nukes, unless someone invades DPRK first. So until Hitlery become the POTUS, there is no chance of a North Korean nuke attack.

I agree. The fat boy only cares about his power in the DPRK. All of his statements just for the people of his country to say "Wow! What a great leader we have!" He wants to live and enjoy his luxury life among the millions of brainwashed slaves. He will never launch a nuke attack until his power is threatened.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Snail2 on March 08, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Given the large number of brainwashed troops in the North, the short distance to key positions in the South, and the assumption that the North will use nuclear weapons or WMDs when stressed, a quick U.S. tactical nuclear response with smaller warheads seems likely if the North invades the South in force. China would do a lot of posturing and eventually come in to pick up the burned pieces.

Probably neither China nor Russia would be extremely happy if the US would start nuking one of their "allies"/business partners right next to their borders. I guess the US decision makers perfectly know this, so probably they not going to do anything stupid. Hopefully China can also keep the koreans on a short lead.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 08, 2016, 12:05:31 PM
Only nation that have used nuclear weapon against another nation is US.
Israel with its Nuclear arsenal is also threat on Middle east, but i don't see US will do anything about that.
Hypocrisy of the west. Constant pressure with threats has done its, they must defend it's sovereignty. And they are bluffing.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: fredashton on March 08, 2016, 01:56:03 PM
North korea cant do anything about it,north korea just brag and threatens everyone but if you look at their military might,they are the poorest of poor.
They might be back up by china but still their military might sucks.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Lethn on March 08, 2016, 02:16:41 PM
North Korea is China's bitch, we've seen this behaviour before, if North Korea really did attack South Korea without warning China would just cut off all contact with them and let North Korea kill themselves trying to attack, it's just Kim Jong Un trying to show his strength and make it look like they're standing up to the evil South Korean imperialists.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: landoadog on March 08, 2016, 03:51:58 PM
North Korea is China's bitch, we've seen this behaviour before, if North Korea really did attack South Korea without warning China would just cut off all contact with them and let North Korea kill themselves trying to attack, it's just Kim Jong Un trying to show his strength and make it look like they're standing up to the evil South Korean imperialists.


Couldnt agree more about that,they dont have the power to do their own will against south korea,Kim Jong Un is just jealous how rich south korea is.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: aardvark15 on March 08, 2016, 05:49:33 PM
It's funny how Kim Jong-un says that he wants to preemptively strike American because we are the aggressors.  Isn't that a little ironic.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Lethn on March 08, 2016, 06:20:49 PM
It's funny how Kim Jong-un says that he wants to preemptively strike American because we are the aggressors.  Isn't that a little ironic.

Yes.... Yes it is....

http://www.cfr.org/world/bush-administrations-doctrine-preemption-prevention-/p6799

:P


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 09, 2016, 08:49:31 AM
It's funny how Kim Jong-un says that he wants to preemptively strike American because we are the aggressors.  Isn't that a little ironic.
And we all know what this means.
Real aggressor here is US government with warmongering policy.
And always you have dictators and hidden weapons or other danger, as a excuses.
Problem here and UN security Council don't have different views, so they approve actions.. Wonder why?


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: magnific61 on March 09, 2016, 11:33:18 AM
Northern Korea is a big baloon and it, has nothing except old technology nuclear missiles. Manpower is useful for defending homeland againist to occupation. Whereas North Korea economocaly is not strong and stands by support of China and Russia.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 09, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Northern Korea is a big baloon and it, has nothing except old technology nuclear missiles. Manpower is useful for defending homeland againist to occupation. Whereas North Korea economocaly is not strong and stands by support of China and Russia.
Maybe this technology is not high tech but they have ballistic rockets. I see they have high morale of army and majority believe in leader. This is perfect situation for US to repeat mistake same as Vietnam.
They were without technology, they fought from underground bunkers and save their dignity against superior enemy.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: magnific61 on March 09, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Northern Korea is a big baloon and it, has nothing except old technology nuclear missiles. Manpower is useful for defending homeland againist to occupation. Whereas North Korea economocaly is not strong and stands by support of China and Russia.
Maybe this technology is not high tech but they have ballistic rockets. I see they have high morale of army and majority believe in leader. This is perfect situation for US to repeat mistake same as Vietnam.
They were without technology, they fought from underground bunkers and save their dignity against superior enemy.
They have to show themselves strong. Because they have enemies out of border.
Imagine that you isolate your citizen from modern world and close in a box. No internet, no travel abroad. An ordinary citizen can't have a passport to go abroad. And they have high morale power?  The country is interiror fear empire. The baloon influent to top limit and will blow up soon


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 10, 2016, 10:02:56 AM
Yes but they live this way a generations. They are probably only want to be left alone nothing more.
Why someone from outside must tell them how they must live or die?
US government is already well known aggressor in the world, and we here talking about threat from KIM?


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: benmartin613 on March 10, 2016, 10:57:27 AM
Northern Korea is a big baloon and it, has nothing except old technology nuclear missiles. Manpower is useful for defending homeland againist to occupation. Whereas North Korea economocaly is not strong and stands by support of China and Russia.
Maybe this technology is not high tech but they have ballistic rockets. I see they have high morale of army and majority believe in leader. This is perfect situation for US to repeat mistake same as Vietnam.
They were without technology, they fought from underground bunkers and save their dignity against superior enemy.
They have to show themselves strong. Because they have enemies out of border.
Imagine that you isolate your citizen from modern world and close in a box. No internet, no travel abroad. An ordinary citizen can't have a passport to go abroad. And they have high morale power?  The country is interiror fear empire. The baloon influent to top limit and will blow up soon

Well north korea still sucks at military power and they dont even have new guns to go to war, well if china or russia will lend them that would be great.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: xht on March 10, 2016, 11:06:44 AM
Northern Korea is a big baloon and it, has nothing except old technology nuclear missiles. Manpower is useful for defending homeland againist to occupation. Whereas North Korea economocaly is not strong and stands by support of China and Russia.
Maybe this technology is not high tech but they have ballistic rockets. I see they have high morale of army and majority believe in leader. This is perfect situation for US to repeat mistake same as Vietnam.
They were without technology, they fought from underground bunkers and save their dignity against superior enemy.
They have to show themselves strong. Because they have enemies out of border.
Imagine that you isolate your citizen from modern world and close in a box. No internet, no travel abroad. An ordinary citizen can't have a passport to go abroad. And they have high morale power?  The country is interiror fear empire. The baloon influent to top limit and will blow up soon
I think in the aftermath, China would consider N. Korea as another Chinese province, which would be better than what it is now!


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 10, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
Well north korea still sucks at military power and they dont even have new guns to go to war, well if china or russia will lend them that would be great.
Their weapon is a customized to field on which they live and who would defend from aggression.
Maybe it is not high tech but they will defend their homeland till the end.
This is like Vietnam, little, proud communist country. US will not attack, they had a chance earlier.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on March 11, 2016, 01:20:33 PM
If USA is so "Macho Man" why dont attack to N. Korea?


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 12, 2016, 01:22:36 PM
If USA is so "Macho Man" why dont attack to N. Korea?

Because the North Koreans will kick the asses of the Americans. Invading the DPRK is not going to be as easy as invading Iraq or Libya. The DPRK is having a battle-hardened army of more than 700,000 regular troops, plus another 3.5 million reservists. Also, the North Korean ballistic missiles can reduce Hawaii to rubble, in a matter of seconds.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: criptix on March 13, 2016, 06:13:08 PM
Mighty kim just lost one of his submarines in a drill lol...


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 14, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~park25h/classweb/worldpolitics/images/north-korean-propaganda-kids-6.jpg

Propaganda or not they are sucking it for a long time. What do you expect if US attack them for he second time, the will give up without fight? Or maybe 1000 of rockets (tomahawk) will bring them to their knees?

One submarine is not important for them they will build more this is communism.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bitsmichel on March 14, 2016, 07:55:39 PM
Propaganda or not they are sucking it for a long time. What do you expect if US attack them for he second time, the will give up without fight? Or maybe 1000 of rockets (tomahawk) will bring them to their knees?

One submarine is not important for them they will build more this is communism.
Every citizen fights for their government if the alternative is death, regardless of the political system.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 15, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
They are living too long under such system so they don't know for better.They will fight for their country and
with all their heart(majority of them). Same story was in Vietnam. I'm telling how US intervention will bring
only suffering and death.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 15, 2016, 10:32:34 AM
Because the North Koreans will kick the asses of the Americans. Invading the DPRK is not going to be as easy as invading Iraq or Libya. The DPRK is having a battle-hardened army of more than 700,000 regular troops, plus another 3.5 million reservists. Also, the North Korean ballistic missiles can reduce Hawaii to rubble, in a matter of seconds.
Us government know that very well so they won't attack. This is just a bringing attention to "North Korea problem"..And whole world will condemn the attempt of one sovereign nation to achieve what others achieved before them.(Nuclear power use and nuclear weapons. )


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 15, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
They are living too long under such system so they don't know for better.They will fight for their country and with all their heart(majority of them). Same story was in Vietnam. I'm telling how US intervention will bring only suffering and death.

No one want a foreign power to invade their nation. If a foreign invasion occur, then the natives will unite among themselves and fight the enemy till death. This has happened in Afghanistan (in 1979, when the Soviets intervened, and in 2001 when the Americans invaded), Iraq, Libya, Yemen (against the invading Saudis).etc.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
No one of normal people don't want war and war still happening. This is fact.
Stronger always attack weaker and this is it.US goverment is controled by selfish interest
of multinational corporation and they are in possession of few the richest families..
They need war for profit!
https://seniorsforademocraticsociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/vet600.jpg


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: Betwrong on March 16, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
No one of normal people don't want war and war still happening. This is fact.
Stronger always attack weaker and this is it.US goverment is controled by selfish interest
of multinational corporation and they are in possession of few the richest families..
They need war for profit!
https://seniorsforademocraticsociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/vet600.jpg

But all of them live in this world, right? They are not so stupid IMO, they know war can affect them and war can spoil their lives too. Also I'm sure some of them are thinking about other people's lives too. Not all rich families are as bad as we might think, they are human as we are.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 03:55:47 PM
But all of them live in this world, right? They are not so stupid IMO, they know war can affect them and war can spoil their lives too. Also I'm sure some of them are thinking about other people's lives too. Not all rich families are as bad as we might think, they are human as we are.
By this analogy, pollution should not exists, because they are also people like us and they are worried for environment. But in real life situation is much different.
They just don't care , they can choose where they will live, majority of people just don't have this opportunity.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: vero on March 16, 2016, 06:23:38 PM
If NK launches a nuclear weapon at anyone but it malfunctions or is shot down then I predict China will have no choice but to quickly invade or otherwise neutralize the idiot in charge there.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 17, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
If NK launches a nuclear weapon at anyone but it malfunctions or is shot down then I predict China will have no choice but to quickly invade or otherwise neutralize the idiot in charge there.
Can you explain here why do you think this will happen?
On contrary this will bring more balance in the world, Israel can have nuclear weapons why some small communist country can't?! And what socialist China have against communist North Korea? Today nothing.

They will faster find common language than rest of the world with Israel and Gaza.


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: sallymeeh27 on March 17, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
What is happening why this country is always active with nuclear attacks how does this matter to them. People around the world have change, there is no more moral values or loosen their self with power and money. Is human nowadays really as bad as this and they dont care anymore, the whole world is full of sins..


Title: Re: North Korea Threatens Nuclear Attack as U.S. and South Korea Begin Drills
Post by: arbitrage on March 17, 2016, 03:28:57 PM
What is happening why this country is always active with nuclear attacks how does this matter to them. People around the world have change, there is no more moral values or loosen their self with power and money. Is human nowadays really as bad as this and they dont care anymore, the whole world is full of sins..
No, there is only US selfish interest and they must be fulfilled and rest of the world can only cry. This is how dangerous can become free trade and capitalism if is unleashed from chains.. He can control country and make wars for profit.
This is all about.