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Any ideas or suggestions?

Depends on your appetite for risk.  The altcoin market has some highly lucrative swings if you're lucky, or you could end up being a bagholder with a bunch of worthless coins that don't see any volume.

People always seem to suggest cloudmining in threads like this, but I'd recommend extreme caution.  Most of the companies don't seem particularly reputable and I've heard plenty of horror stories.

And most important of all, never risk more than you can afford to lose, don't put all your eggs in one basket and all the other popular applicable sayings that apply.

i have no problem risking it all, but i was thinking something like stocks or binary options. if such services exist for btc.

the only thing i would not recommend is most probably cloud mining websites as they usually turn to scams that dont pay money any more

if i had to choose where to invest i would go with a gambling game called just-dice.com

It depends, Bitcoin it self is a investment already in my eyes, and It really depends on how much bitcoin you have to invest.
You should only invest a small % of your Bitcoins in something, my best bet would be Altcoins.
Buy low sell High, Or you could also invest in a Ico like Lisk that is doing really good at the moment.

My preferred way to invest bitcoin is in forex and binary options. You can find some interesting options to try it out there, although it is undoubted that you need  some experience and knowledge before try it, otherwise you will be in risk of losing your hardly gained btc.

what site do you use?,,

I have seen binary options on some bitcoin casinos, but i don't know so much how it works. Be careful investing on high returning products, look about how trusted is the site on the forum. Don't invest on doublers or similar, they will scam you.

Do you wanna invest bitcoin ,well the best place its exchanges the risk are lower then casinos or gambling.With the countdown to halving of bitcoin,some altcoins are being pumped ,around 40 up to 70% daily,soo you should take a look and invest maybe there,you must invest more then one coin soo you can recover the loss of one into the other or wait it turn green,poloniex market yesterday were very hot i may say,this last week bitcoin volume around 50 k and around 150kdollars soo they are making money trading.

Can you recommend any exchange sites then? :)

Maybe buying bitcoins for now and selling when the price increase so high. I mean halving is close and many people predict the price of bitcoin will increase. So, invest on bitcoin is good imo.

If I have good enough amount, I would surely go with either a mining farm (large one) since electricity is very cheap on where I live, or I would hire a developer (game) to create a game that is somehow BTCitcoin related to drive traffic from this community and also attractive enough for every user out there to download it and use it (you might be surprised in profits earned by those who invented great games over the years, for Android or iOS).

I don't about any trusted sites provide buying good stocks from bitcoins but you can buy bitcoins and hold it for prices to go up to take profit and also you can invest in good and reliable casino sites to grow you coins. 

currently i didn't see any good place to invest your bitcoin because investment sites have bad reputations now and will be scam in the end and my advices here forget about investment program if you don't want losing your money

sadly there is not good place to invest bitcoin. and if there is, I haven't found it yet!
all the sites you see offering investments are mostly scam.

there is cloudmining for investment, check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg0 first.
I don't suggest it because as you see in that topic they are mostly Ponzi scam, and the rest have bad ROI

there is also option for lending bitcoin. there is site like BTCJam, and a couple of exchangers like poloniex.
this is also risky, and I suggest taking a good and valid collateral before lending bitcoin.


the best option is trading. I prefer trading altcoins since they have better return.
for exchanger take a look at coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/ you can see the list of all major exchangers there and choose one that suites your needs.
for bitcoin I suggest kraken, and for altcoin I suggest bittrex.

There are many places to invest in some Bitcoin and that is quite good. But you also need to be careful there are also scams and that is not good.
I hope that you can make some good profit later in the future and that more people are going to use it.

The bitcoin can be invested in a lot of things, but I think the best thing where you can invest in is in a bitcoin casino.
Because you can make a lot of profit with investing in them for sure.

There is no guarantee that he can make a lot of profit by investing in bitcoin casino. As what its name "gambling" is risk, so there is still a risk that he may lose all his investment when there are some whales who win a lot of money and take down the site's bankroll.

Casinos are a better choice than most but you're at the mercy of lady luck and I'd only go with the real established ones. There's money to be made in alts these days but only if you're good at guessing.

Almost all investment have a risk itself, even investing in your wallet, but it's better and safe to invest in your cold wallet/safe wallet.

One of the best place your bitcoin i think is in trading.Though there risks in any investment,by careful study of coins movement,the law of supply and demand,you can decide a better coins to buy that will surely will appreciate.Some trading sites to trade are poloniex,Yobit,ccex,bitfenix etc

DMD Diamond s a nice PoS coin which has brought me nothing but profits in the past. 25% annual interest rate and great inflation control. The link s under my avatar.

The other option s margin trading.

Trading is a good way to get your bitcoins working for you. Sure you should think of the possibility to lose to.
But overal you can get a a good margin by trading the altcoin market.

My suggestion is , you should not invest your bitcoin if you can't afford to lose it. If you invest, you are just risking your coins, do you want that? Probably not ::)

I suggest to  invest in gambling site and make profit when the house is always win you can gain profit.. Beware to any investment site they are scam and you will lose all your bitcoin in days.. also i dont recommend and cloudmining site most of them are scam.. its better to invest your bitcoins into trading so that you canmake profit with your bitcoin just buy cheap and sell high.. and use BTC to usd and usd to btc when the price is low..

I have a suggestion. invest your money in a blog or bitcoin related site or a faucet site., purchase a domain and hosting. hire a programmer who can do this job for you and make a site for you. and then invest some more money to advertising of this. then serve google ads on it and earn money. this is the best investment in my openion. because almost all cloudmining, hyip, and other investment sites are scam and not paying.

hmm. this is a good suggestion.

actually i was thinking about creating a bitcoin related website for a while now. but i don't want to hire anybody because i am more interested in learning to do it myself so it would take a longer time.
do you have any suggestion about the content?
 i don't like creating a faucet, instead i might create a rotator. but again i want a more interesting website not something that already exists.

This sounds like a good idea. but I am not sure google adsense allows ads on faucets. What I do know is that there are plenty of other
CPM ad channels you can use to earn a quick buck. With some good linkbuilding you can get a lot of traffic to your site.

In my opinion the best place you can invest in is in the gambling casinos, there are huge profits you can make with it.
Just make sure that you are investing in a trusted and big one!

I would never invest in a gambling casino. Even if it is big.
Most of them seems to be scammers to me. ready to run if they got some big deposits coming in. Rather trade it or buy some bitcoin.

Well there are all kind of options you can take to invest in something and they all have risks for sure no doubt about that.
I would just buy bitcoins as a sort of investment or invest it in altcoins or something to gain profit.

Well poloniex its an exchange that is very hot and is one of the biggest around the crypto world,before any investment be sure which coin you will invest my advice is play short ,or try hold the coin for a superior time may be a good income,i lost the oportunity at eth from the 0,026 to 0.032btc i haven many coins there but well i missed that pump ,but the same way it atract it may scare you i had roi and left.Besides that you can lend your bitcoins to others ,soo combined you can get a good income ,give a try on it and becarful the same way you can make money ,you can loose it.

The best place where you can invest in is yourself, just invest in the bitcoin and you will most likely gonna make a lot of profit for sure.
Its just a matter of time if you ask me because the halving is also coming.

Well keeping your bitcoin inside you wallet is another form if investment too, after halving peoples says that the price of bitcoin will jump high
But, if you really want to invest then you can trade to alt coins, though it will be hard without any experiences
Or use your bitcoin to start your own venture business, bitcoin casino is still popular around here ;)
Just don't do cloud mining, it's just another form of ponzi scheme

There are many place to invest of course. But you must be careful with scams and that is really important. And I hope that more people will use Bitcoin.
You must be fast to make an investment now in Bitcoin, because the value will be higher in the future.

yes. if you work with a new idea, you'll get more success. If you ask my suggestions then I would like to say, make a bitcoin related video website, and teach people about how to make money online through bitcoin. and worn them about scam and fake sites, make video tutorials about bitcoin earning methods.

there are thausands of faucet site who are working with google adsense. some most famous faucets are:
alienbitcoin.
moonbitcoin.
zebrabitcoin.
freebitco.in
and many more. I think google adsense will approve faucets sites if the faucet have good traffic and some good content/text. if you write some text in your faucet like "what is faucet" what is bitcoin" how to mine bitcoin" who is satoshi " and some more pages like these. then you'll get google adsense for sure..

Its not good now to invest around this time. Because the value is not that low so you can better wait.
You must buy low and sell high that is the best option.

The best place you can invest in, in my opinion is in stockings or investing in yourself by buying bitcoin can also be good.
How more you invest in someone else how higher the risk is that you will get scammed or lose a lot of profit.

If the bitcoin price rises 30% a year for the next 30 years, there will be no other investment better than bitcoin. So just hold the coins.

But the problem is we don't know if op has a knowledge how to make a website or faucet.. If you just you use the script of faucetbox there are many ways to hack your faucet. or your your visitors are bot.. So i don't suggest this if he didn't know how to make website.. its better to invest your money in gambling site that has investment like bitvest or betking.io.. also in moneypot.. but its risky we know house is always win so i think investing in gambling site is not so risky..

Yes you are right but the fact is will the bitcoin even can hold it tight this long, for so many years.
I think it will not and its also the fact the bitcoin is not stable at now and its the question if it ever will be.

Maybe its just a matter of time but I think it can be good to invest in the bitcoins only, its safer than investing in someone else no doubts about that.

I already invested in a bitcoin casino and I must say its pretty profitable if you ask me, no doubt about for sure.
The only thing you need to know is in what casino you have to invest, keep in mind there is a chance to lose money also...

Cold storage.

Only good investiment for me is safe investiment. And i think there is no safe investiment actually. Maybe lend money to traders on exchanges, but very low profit... Invest in something that you can work with that, like a business, in my opinion it's the better way to earn money.

almost all bitcoin investment is pure HYIP/Ponzi, do you want your money gone. i suggest you to not invest in ponzi, try with trading altcoins more better than put money to get passive income.

Maybe I am not on topic here but why not, please follow my premium tips thread, it is on gambling, and if you place always the same bet everyday by now you would have been in profit. I have 16 wins and 5 losses out of 21 games I have suggested how to bet. ;D

There are many places to invest. But now is not the right time to invest. Because the value is not that low around this time.
So it is better if you wait a little longer when the price go down. Or you can do it now, but you must be for sure that the price will rise.

The best place  you can invest in is in my opinion in the bitcoin itself because otherwise you are doubling your risks if you ask me.
You are doubling your risks because you are gonna invest with the bitcoin in something else what is also risky.

As of now there's no legit investment site to invest our money.. I think its better to buy and sell bitcoin to usd and usd to btc..
Try trading buy bitcoin when the price is low and sell them when the price is high..

I would suggest you to store your bitcoins then investing them anywhere, because now a days there are really less websites that are legit, every site has turned scam so we really can't believe any investment platform now a days so better to stay away from them.

Personally I dont think it is a good time to invest. But you must look at the websites where many people bought their Bitcoin.
Because otherwise you will be scammed and that will be not good. So be careful before you invest.

any time is a good time to invest. you might have heard it is not a good time to spend.

if the investment is good it is a good time to invest your bitcoin and make more bitcoin. for example if you invest in altcoins you can make more bitcoin each day and grow your coins over time.

Alt coins investiment is risk anyway, you can buy today for X and tomorrow the price is -2X or nothing. All "worth" investiments involve risk, so you must practice a little before doing high investiments, and you must know that you can lose everything!

If you want safe investiments where you just send money and wait for some time to get a decent profit back, i think it's impossible.

I do not agree with you. It is true that there is most of sites are scamming now a days. But there are still some legit sites and earning resource exists, who really pay for investment. Just need to give some time and find these sites. We can read reviews and criteria's opinion to fix that which site is paying and which is scam.

Maybe there are, maybe still people can find some legit sites for investments after a long research because we don't often come across any legit site just by surfing internet as it used to be before, it is really hard to find one now a days.

Investing your bitcoin in certain sites need a good network, knowledge and experience to avoid a scam service.
And it's not hard nor easy too, there is some tips how to choose a good place to invest, first you can find out a site with large community , a large community means so many people trust on them and it could be measure to decide whether a site is a right place to invest or not.

I suggest dont invest to any investment site its better to start a thread in lending section just lend your bitcoins or give a loan but make sure that they have valid collateral so that you can lent him or her.. Also try to lend in poloniex.. i just heard that you can lend there. but never tested it..

You can of course invest in gambling. But that will be very risky because you can also lose a lot of money and that will be not good.
I hope that more people will know that gambling is very bad to do and that it is just only for fun. So it is better to save your Bitcoin.

If you mean by "a place to invest" a website that offers an interest percentage every specific period of time, then I advice you to get away from these sites as thay are most probably ponizi and you will not see your money again after depositing.
you can invest in trading btc to usd and profit from the market movements. It is risky but less risky than trading altcoin that may fall from .00001 to 1 satoshi in short time

Ofcourse gambling is not a method to grow your money as the earnings on gambling is totally dependant on luck so just a few lucky people earn profit from gambling and the others just lose everything.

gambling is only profitable for the house.
so in order to share in this profit you either have to be the house (create your own casino) or invest in casinos that accept investment.
remember that both have some risk.

If you don’t know that how to make a website then it is not a problem as you can buy a website from any website provider company online and running a website is not a problem but the easiest way to earn big amount.

I think if he wants to earn a big amount for his living then he has to learn that how a website is made and how is it administered. As nowadays the great investment according to me is starting a good website.

Invest in Ethereum, and wait a year. It is doing well, and I think it has the potential to do even better.

But gambling is more hard to learn and to be expert rather than making and running a website, the gambling site owners are earning big amount daily from their sites, and these site owners do not put their money to gamble they just earn.

Yup I agree that gambling will not work When we do gambling, As like you said we start a site where we can play gambling and make money by that as well from Google.
I suggest to OP, can go for trading as a full time worker. Like LBC, Kraken and more. It will give profit while we do in full time work.

there are multiple options for investing bitcoin.
- cloudmining : mostly are scams and a couple remaining are not so profitable
- casino bankroll : this is risky but more reliable than the last one with decent profit.
- trading : this last one is my favorite. because the money (bitcoin) is in my own hands and i don't rely on anybody else to give me profit. if i can make profit with trading i do and if i lose money it is on me and not because of a scammer.

Definitely igot is the best place to invest your bitcoin,

Try igot
http://igot.com (http://igot.com)

But we can invest there only if we have a good experience in casino, only those people are benefitted from casino who have good knowledge, skills and some luck in that field. Otherwise it is highly dangerous to invest in gambling field.

moneypot.com is great and features a lcoked invest option so you don't lose your money.

for the moment I do not invest, because I do not see any good investment.
I prefer trading altcoins or bitcoin. and also hold bitcoin is a good investment for the next few months, to welcome halving :)

I'm also doing the same, collecting and storing my bitcoins and waiting for the halving coming in next few months as predicted, because i don't see any safe investment platform for investing if i get one i may try it with some bucks.

Real-estate in india.
No joke.
That market is growing and will continue to grow for decades to come.

It's pretty difficult for a foreigner to start investing in India. Let alone real estate. What OP means are investment opportunities for the masses.
And for me those are; Gold, Oil and off course Bitcoin.

make a website yourself. you can easily make a wordpress website with 20 to 30$ . and this investment will never go loose if you work with dedication. you will be the owner of the website and can get so big profit if you do hard work..

I would rather suggest him to make a .com website rather then a wordpress website, if he has no skills himself for making the website he should hire someone for the work, and if he works well on his website, i'm sure he won't regret doing it and his money won't be lost at all.

DO NOT USE IGOT.COM.. IT IS A  SCAM ---- DO YOUR RESEARCH, RICK IS A KNOWN SCAMMER.. BEWARE

does the site, just-dice.com, work? I think invest in gambling is too risky and we may lose much money.
If I were you, I would not risk my money to a gambling site.

but before I ever investment in the cloudmining and it is still safe and legit. it's just that my income decreases. so I tried to leave it.

May i know which website are you talking about? because i have searched a lot and didn't find any stable and good paying cloud mining website around, maybe there were some before there aren't any now, if there are then they are suspicious.

Let me re-post what I have posted in another thread. So many cloud threads around.

No point investing into cloud mining anymore, since halving is so close. After the block halves, no current ASIC machine will be profitable unless BTC price goes up big time.

Actually, the only cloud mining service which I can recommend is DMD Diamond cloud, I have reached ROI there after about 18 months and it keeps bringing me profits. The reason behind this is the fact you receive your payouts in DMD Diamond, which is a PoS coin, generates 25% annual interest rate. This speeds up ROI big time. Also, you payouts come from various sources, not only actual cloud. It s been also run by EXTREMELY honest and trustworthy people.

The link is bellow my avatar. No referral or any other shit. Just an honest recommendation.

hashnest.com is still legit and they were standing a few years ago. there are also other sites that I saw some people say it's still legit is hashocean.com. but I do not know about this, because I've never played there. or you can look for him about it.

I don't know about hashnet.com but i had a review on hashocean.com, actually i'm afraid to invest in hashocean because the return of investment is about 3-4 months and i'm afraid if it turns scam between that period and that is the reason why i don't invest there.

Bitcoin itself is an investment.

That is right. I buy and hold the bitcoin for the long term. I do not invest bitcoin in other areas.

Doing that is really far better then investing anywhere, just hold your coins in a safe place and wait and hope for a positive change in future, i'm saying this because i have recently invested some bitcoins in a cloud mining site and now i'm regretting it because their daily earnings are too low that you will get old to get a profit from them, so better to never invest in such plans.

Holding coins is like watching sport, you have some dose of adrenaline but this is not same as direct participation.
I will choose trading, this way you are always in center of  happenings, and you can react fast, if price goes down.
Real question is which exchanges is for you, and for your style of trading.

not everyone has bitcoins to invest so if you join a signature campaign which is to do with games and gambling like secondstrade.com I would invest in that and even if i lose btc i will still get paid for posting so it is a win win for both of us. 8)

That's true but most websites have a high trading fee which makes the profit margin even less. Holding bitcoins too can be considered an investment if the user stores it for over a year as the rate gets doubled by then. It's just like property trading and gold trading.

Can it be that tere is no reasonable bitcoin invest option?
From all I have read, the proposed investments can be done with fiat as well.

So it all indictes that bitcoin itself really is the investment.

for now almost all place have high risk to invest , better develop yourself and you can manage your own money

but how? there must be a way to manage our own money. if we don't trust at any source of making money, then we can't make good money. for making a good income we always have to be ready for Win and Loose both.

don't know with the others but i'm trade and learn about trading , how to get profit even a little , how to minimalize if coins that i buy getting down , i think that is already enough for me

I bought graphics cards to mine the altcoins and then sell them for bitcoin. I hold the bitcoin for the long term.

Investing your bitcoins can be done by trading itself. I am a regular trader and keep selling and buying bitcoins without any issues. I don't need to even save my bitcoins as I keep withdrawing my profit which earns me a good income.
Besides this method, lending can also be considered a safe way to invest bitcoins for a high interest rate.

invest your bitcoins to borrowers most of the time you can make profit but here you have to ask for valid collateral
which has to be 120% or more than the loan. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.

At this site, forumer use their alt accounts as collateral and and sometimes they just leave their account without any words and sometimes they use a compromised account to be a collateral, so it will be useless, so the tendency to get bankrupt is high..

120% is not enough now. The price of the collateral changes very fast. To be secure, you need at least 140%.

Not every place has risk, maybe there are some places that are too risky but if someone really wants to earn then he/she should do some research and find out if which places are the best and risk-free, spending some time on that will take you to a decision where you will find your answer if there is places worth it or not.

What in the world are you saying ? The point of collateral is to use it to secure yourself from being crossed over, so everything above 100 is
just extra profit in the case where it must be liquidated. 120% is more than enough. Anyways borrowing bitcoins is very tricky bussiness, and is not for everyone.

But I believe if we lend bitcoins with proper collateral with excess value then both borrowers and lenders will depend on each other. I guess, lending must be a smartest way to make our bitcoins grow. But, needs to be done with care and dedication to avoid any possible scam.

First Global Credit is a service provider that allows you to buy or short stock, ETFs,(5:1 leverage)  metal or futures (1:1)markets. Currently over 250 choices using your BTC as collateral. Only liquid markets so you can get in and out easily. The other benefit is that you can move your bitcoin collateral into fiat and back into bitcoin (2:1 leverage), all the time you are trading live markets.
It is a real market position with underlying trades in the exchange. First Global makes money if you make money. There is a clear cost structure, no spread where we make more money by trading against our customers.
The company is running a competition right now with live bitcoin account prizes. But the company has been going since 2014 and has Jon Matonis (Bitcoin Foundation Pres) on the board.
We can also add markets you may want to trade if they are liquid and meet certain risk criteria.
New services coming for bitcoin investment.
Marcie
Comms Director
www.firstglobalcredit.com

Bitcoin bitcoin has always been risky, many people has been scammed and they lost their money in lending, never trust anyone without a valid collateral otherwise you can get doomed so quickly.

Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories.

(1) High risk, high return short-term trading strategy ("buy low, sell high"): But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong?
(2) Moderate risk, moderate return portfolio investment strategy e.g. Keza (http://www.getkeza.com) as an investment platform.  But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook.
(3) Low risk, low return secured lending strategy (collateralised lending).  But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too.

Avoid HYIP, Ponzi schemes, and fanciful, unrealistic promises.

http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-investment-startup-keza-unveils-ios-beta-app/
https://www.producthunt.com/tech/keza
http://getkeza.com/ (It's free to apply for a Keza account)

So basically you are saying that critical thought needs to be applied to any investment strategy? Your reasoning is absolutely sound but not really the point. The key, I think, is not looking for one good place to invest your bitcoin but looking at your criteria for investment. For instance, I need liquidity or I cannot tolerate losing principal. Then look to split your holdings over a variety of portals, also taking into account counterparty risk!
Getkeza might be a part of that strategy. Taking a position in gold futures, or Google, or Betfair or S&P Futures or Tesla on www.firstglobalcredit.com website might also be a sound addition to the portfolio. FGC also gives you the ability to move the bitcoin securing the trades in and out of fiat at the same time giving 2 bites of the 'profit apple'. That could also be a useful part of the strategy as well?  As might bitbond or BTCJam, especially while the bitcoin price is trading in a range therefore limiting the problem of having repayments being greatly out of kilter with the initial debt profile. I think liquidity is a key issue for many investors and having access to over 250 mainstream markets like the firstglobalcredit platform provides might be very helpful.
Getkeza is a cool concept however.

Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges?
We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that.
No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges. I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. 8)

Keza looks interesting. Where's the save-up and start your own business kind of investment here?


No need, it's only BittrEX and Polo that would dominate. The other exchanges have only a fraction of their volumes.

Why do you want to compare when you know the best exchanges in the market you can really rely upon???
But remember, never put your coins on any exchange even if it's the most trusted ones, because we really don't know the future as to what might happen and when...

Yes this is why i need several exchanges, because diversity is alway good, and you can do arbitrage.Every exchange have something unique and special. Just compare YOBIT, BITTREX, C-CEX. Conclusions are clear, and competition is most welcomed.

compare to anything, any exchanges have their respective advantages in terms of transaction costs, security and exchanges above already have a broad market.

I am very security councious. So I will keep most of my coins in the cold wallet. I will trade a small amount.

Being security conscious and securing yourself is good, but be careful when trading, trading needs much experience to earn some profit and stay away from loss, if someone has no experience then trading can do the work of gambling in such cases, the person may don't lose all he invested but he would surely get a loss in it.

That is actually the best way.. To secure your wallet and store your coins and wait until the price goes high and then sell them and count the profit.
Better then investing them anywhere as no place is 100% safe now a days, we can't take risks of investing our coins to any website, and if we do that then we must do some research before doing it so that we don't face a loss.

But I think it is a risk, a risk for one of the party, suppose if the price of the bitcoin increases then the person who has got the loan will be liable to pay more what he has got(if calculated in dollar as standard), while if the price decrease the payer will get less (if calculated in dollar as standard)

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I wonder if maybe investing in a local or regional BTC ATM outfit might work?  The "BTMs" in my city now charge a breathtaking 14% premium over BTC price (I do know that they have many expenses to cover, and perhaps not all that many people using them now).

I have touched base with a principal at one of these companies, perhaps an investment in loaning them money (to buy more BTMs) or even taking an equity stake in their company.

Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin.

Investing anywhere without any research or searching history of that platform will obviously be risky for the investor.
If someone wants to invest some money somewhere then first of all just find out the history of it and see if it has positive results.
If it has positive results then you may go for it, but if it has some negative results as well and it is suspicious then don't invest otherwise you may lose your money.

And what woud that be? As far as I know there is no easy and no risky way to grow the Bitcoin. But if you know some, please share with us.

It is not that bad to invest in your Bitcoin, if Bitcoin is getting more popular and also that the value will be more than there is no problem to do it and you will have some profit.
But you need to know also that it can be risky indeed if the value is going to reduce.

Gambling is also risky, you can lose everything in a twinkle of an eye.

keep safe in your wallet, lots of scammers around you.

Signature campaigns can be a easy and risk free way, but maybe someone is not qualified for it.

Selling your services can be a easy and risk free way, but maybe someone has no skills.

Trading can be a easy and risk free way, but maybe someone has no experience.

Faucets can be a easy and risk free way, but maybe someone don't like wasting a lot of time for tiny amounts of bitcoin.

So basically there are a lot of ways, you just need to be qualified for atleast one of them.

Or you can win? I also think that gambling is much better then cloud mining, I never invested in cloud mining and I gamble everyday. I think we have better chances and better odd's and for sure its better fun.
You need to inform yourself about both things and make your opinion about all that.
Investing in alt coins is also very risky, here also we need information's about dev's, scammers, future announcement's..
Everything is risk when you think about where to invest money, everyone enjoy in different things, different experience.. find yourself.
And I think there are better casinos then just-dice  ;)

I won't say cloud mining websites are bad, though they are in some extent, but i would also not say that gambling is good.
If cloud mining websites pay very little everyday then gambling can finish in just few minutes.
Gambling is good when someone does it for fun as you said it is fun, but don't try to make it a source of earning otherwise you will end up having nothing in the pocket and regretting later won't do anything.

So many ways to invest bitcoins but First of all you have to think for ROI and trust of site where you invest. Gambling is higher with bitcoins.

I think investment of bitcoin is good option for getting higher ROI.

Altcoins are best place for investing bitcoins, with best earnings, everything else is less profitable.

Not probably, it's also the best place to lose your BTCBTCBTCs.

Trade with care and you won't lose your bitcoins, trading needs a little experience and skills for sure.
Someone would surely lose his bitcoins if he invests in a coin that never had the potential to grow.
As a trader you must see the history of the coin you want to invest in, if in history the coin had been going up and down so you can take the risk because the coin will keep going up and down and while that process you can earn your profit.

Ethereum was the best place for investing bitcoin a few months ago. But now the price is high and risky.

my best investing place

https://poloniex.com/exchange trading coins and as advise watch Etherium movements

https://hashocean.com/summary/ only few dollars as they re considerate as high risk

and avoid gambling

best luck

Many people here are scared to invest coins, they will never understand how bitcoin work if they don't use all possibilities..Storing bitcoins in cold wallets is good but this passivity is not for me. How you are going to sell it one day?

Ethereum i guess is still not bad for investments.
I have just started trading with ethereum before some days, and it is actually not so bad.
I have earned some starting satoshis with it and also looking forward to it again if i have some more bitcoins.

Yeah ethereum is one of the good altcoin as of now.. that you can make a profi fast because of fast movement. if you are really to invest in ethereum right now i think better to buy in other weeks or days because the price of ethereum is very high wait for a cheap price of ethereum before you can start buying it..

Don't wait for a cheap price, otherwise you will miss the chance.
The cheap price never comes, what if it kept moving up and never came down?
Just by it when it is fluctual, and make some profit from it.

Yep, if you ask me. Basically the idea would be to avail a couple of units and put it aside for a big chance to earn - just like what is projected with Bitcoin after the halving. But also, take advantage of some methods to earn and build your funds like sig campaigns and trading etc.

Right before having every coin will be pumped just because they want your btcs.
Be careful and invest only in healthy projects, not in those who are suddenly rise without any logic.

Well even healthy projects can be very risky. Because they are pumped too. My advice would be to buy and hold for a period of 3 years (make sure you miss your money this long).
Else you may will have to sell at loss.

Exactly.
I'm recently doing trading and signature campaign as well, to grow my funds to be held for a price increase until the block halving.
Someone should hold his coins but meanwhile should keep struggling to increase them so that he could be able to earn more profit after block halving coming near future.

currently difficult to find a good investment sites. I usually prefer investing in altcoins. such as ICO or trade altcoins.

it really depends on you and what the rates you like to see
for me I invest in many things , you can invest in a gambling site but it has a lot of variance
I wouldn't recommend investing in cloud mining , cause these mostly are a pure gamble I only use them as a gamble
also you can offer some loans in poloniex , the rates are between 0.03-0.1% daily and sometimes more

investment cloud mining currently is not popular as it once was. This time really is not profitable. although there are some sites that still cloud mining legit.

The best investment so far that I think for bitcoins is doing trading. Having a good capital and having some friends that are experts in trading will make you get your ROI in no time. In my case, we do have a Group Chat on Facebook and that's where we talk about what to buy and when to sell it.

But if you're looking for an investment site, then I suggest try using hashocean. I don't use it though, but my friends are. :D
Good luck wherever you'll invest your money.

Stay 100% PERCENT CLEAR of any casinos unless you personally know the guy who runs it and can find him if he tries to steal your money.

Invest in yourself, and just hold it. If you wanna play around with altcoins that's fine. Don't give a thing to some casinos "bankroll" You will lose it overtime in a huge way.

Trading can be profitable and easy if someone has a group of traders and experts where he can get suggestion about every aspect of trading.
Otherwise it can be risky if you take risks by yourself selecting any coin without knowing anything about it.
And
HashOcean is suspicious i guess so someone should not invest a big amount in it, because it claims ROI in 3 months that is really not possible for a real mining website i guess. Someone could give it a try with a small amount but to be safe, don't invest big in there.

Not to advertise or smth, but GameBet.gg (http://GameBet.gg) is actually looking for investors. I didn't mention this before because I thought HashOcean is better as it has a lot of investors in my country.

Trading online is similar in trading in real life. People talk to other business partners so that they can assure that the product they are going to buy is profitable and can be exchanged for a better price in the future. The same in the bitcoin community, the only difference is that we buy & sell coins instead of products.

Trusted cloud mining is one of the great source for getting good ROI against your investment. And if your are going for big investment then go for hardware ! But take care before buying hardware as which type of power machine supports as SHA256, X11 etc.

Both hardware and cloud mining seem to be very unprofitable for home/small time miners. I rather advice OP to buy coins hold on to them for 3/4 years
and then sell them.

Don't invest to cloud mining no matter what. Most of them becomes a scam after the long run. It'd be better if you invest in mining using hardware. You're gonna be needing a decent capital though in order to make it profitable.

Although if OP don't have enough knowledge about mining, OP can hold on to his BTC and wait for the BTC price to go up.

Keep your bitcoins in your wallet, thats the most profitable of all investments, wait for it for the price to rise meanwhile keep buying as much as you can to add to your balance, if you have a lot then definitely you need a hardware wallet which is malware proof like Trezor.

If you truly want to invest then why don't you come to my Premium Tips thread in the gambling section of this forum, so far I am in huge profit, and you can follow my tips for just 0.001 BTC per tip (sportsbook betting).

unfortunately there are not any good investment out there for bitcoin that you can easily invest and be sure to get the profit and on time with no hassle.

one thing is for sure and that is cloudmining is the worst investment that anybody could make with bitcoin, the ROI is terrible and also there are a lot of scam cloudmining that are ponzi scheme instead of miners.

there is also casinos that are accepting bitcoin as investment into their bankroll so you can share in their profit. which is a good investment but it is risky and you may gain small profit on your investment. or even lose it because the house lost.

i myself like investing in trading altcoins, i buy those altcoins that look promising at low prices and then sell them when their price rises.

I am doing Alt coin investment in the good coins and ICO coins and when i see profit i sell them, some coins are good for daily trading their also you can do some trading, apart from this if you got some experience with sports betting that is also good.

There are many long-term, trusted ones. Stay away from new, unknown ones and you're generally pretty safe, outside of some edge cases that are few and far between. Obviously, the safest is to hold the coins on your own either in a cold wallet (paper) or hardware wallet.

Altcoins are a good investment but ICo's etc. should be avoided at all cost. The are not reliable and most of the time a clear scam.

But even if the cloud mining site is legit it doesnt really worth any investment because it takes a lot of time to reach ROI.
Its better to do something else with the money you have then putting them in cloud mining and wait for years to reach ROI.

Really? Altcoins? Have you seen the charts recently? Everything s red.

I have bought some ETH before some day and then i had a problem in my internet connection so i wasn't able to come online for these days.
And today when i came back and saw the price of ETH, it was shocking for me, a big drop of price in just 2 or 3 days.
At that time it was around 0.019-0.02 btc and today it is as low as 0.016-0.0165 btc.
I wish it goes up again and i can sell my coins with no loss.

I thought about ethereum but the price went to high to fast. And what comes up, must go down. I have it on my watchlist but not before it go back to 1-2 dollar.

You are right, we really can't say anything about a altcoin, it may go up to $50 in no time but it may also drop down to $1 again.
But they are always fluctuating so that is the point of trading, when you see it is going in minus a little just buy it, and keep an eye on the market and when it goes up to plus then sell them.

I think when everything is red, its the right time to buy some of them then wait till they are up again and I think they are red recently is because bitcoin is going up recently.

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LOL when everything's red, then people are dumping their coins. That means they waited for it to go up for so long but it didn't. They started losing their money so instead of losing it all, they just dump their coins. ::)

if you are a smart trader. Red is a great time to buy, but you must be analyzed until the red climax.

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To me bitshares and stellar are great coins to invest. TA very solid market cap, and they are listed at a price which is just a bargain at the moment.

Bitcoin had dropped a little today, before one or two days it was $460 and today its $450.
But actually you are right, the time when the coins are down is the best for the traders to buy because of the low prices, but it also needs some knowledge because if you buy a coin that had no potential in history then you are likely to lose your coins by investing on it.

Investing your bitcoin can be done the best at casino's in my opinion because with casino's you can make a lot of money.
I think this is one of the best thins where you can invest in compared with other investments, always be sure to do it at a trusted person/party.

What you are saying is indeed true bitcoin gambling and casino's are growing real fast and they are looking for investors.
I think you can make nice profits with it if you pick a good casino that is popular.

try to over some skills with an bitcoin Buisness :)

When you say invest on casino, you mean try making profit with gambling or lend money to someone play on casino?

I think it just worth if the player give you something as collateral, because he can lose everything and you too... No?

I think what he mean is invest on casino's bankroll instead of gambling it on the casino. Investing in casino's bankroll is good a long term imo, but there is always a risk as well. But I would say it is even better than investing in cloudmining site.

I think you can invest in every company or person if its trusted and they have a good business plan.
if they have this you can consider to invest in it for sure, I invested into a mixer website and I must say its pretty profitable.

What site do you mean that if you invested it into mixer it is profitable? i think mixer is just use to hide identity to create a new tract so your sending transaction cant easily know if where you send your bitcoins..

mixers are not small businesses and they are not accepting small investments either. so you have to have a lot of money to invest in a mixer. for example your own signature, bitmixer, is only accepting investments larger than 100 bitcoins.

Never heard someone saying they have earned enough profit by investing in bitcoins sites, never tried it though.
But it is really profitable if someone owns or get partnership in a bitcoin casino websites, they earn pretty well as the house wins mostly and now a days bitcoin casinos are really popular, people even convert their fiat to bitcoin for gambling.

Indeed, but I think to own it its gonna take a lot more money in the overall right ? I think just investing is better than because it requires less more money and its still profitable.
I also never done it but from what I've heard it was pretty profitable.

I think theres somebidy earn in sitea those who plays earn and run on new hyips sites thats my doing and i really earn by that but not big enough, but in partnership in casino i think you need very huge profit with that and i think its very rare if casinos existing today will accept partnership because they already earn more big enough even they dont have partners, my suggestion also is you can invest in tradings.

That can be right, bitcoin casino's are too popular these days, people even change their fiat to bitcoin for gambling now a days because it is easier and better then offline casino's i guess.
But i don't know about investing in them, never done it nor saw someone doing it, maybe someone can earn some good profit if he invests a big amount.

There are all kind of investments you can make with the bitcoin, you can invest in start-ups but I think that you can better invest in a casino.
I would do this because casino's are really getting popular and the gambling scene is getting more popular everyday.

Yep and even if the bitcoin casino you are investing isn't that popular at the moment, with promotion and advertisements, it will soon. So you better invest in a bitcoin casino even if it is still not that popular because it will eventually become popular unless something bad happens in the website. Also it is a good investment because a lot of bitcoin casinos have been there for a long time which means you can get paid for a long time if you invest since the start of the website.

Novatrader has been hacked. Fore warn to you potential investors.

Casinos were great up to a few months back. Now it seems they re all over liquid. Lots of people have invested and profits per BTC are really low.

i think that would profit most huge are those that have the casino so I think investing in something risky casino is large with a small profit, for me it's not worth to called as an investment.

u can go for any one of them !
1. Get one Faucet !
2. mining
3. not gambling ! :'(
4. By giving loans !  :o

Nice good for newbies..  i think giving loan is risky without collateral.. so i suggest to give a loan and make sure to the collateral is valid like full member account in up.. get faucet? in the first time if you are low in promoting you can only get few visitors in your site and its a long time before your faucet will get more visitors...

Faucets re complete waste of time. I really do not understand why you people recommend them.

For the new comer, it is fun to get some bitcoin for free. But it is better not to spend more than a few hours there.

join the RICO of XAUR . it has a potential coin and nice team of developers. its market value is high and near to the price of bitcoin. i think this RICO will be successful because they pay too much attention. even in the signature and twitter campaign. they have a lot funds allocated to promotion.  i hope you listen to me OP. thats for the better. thanks

Yes. buying coins in their Ico is the great investment. I saw recently (almost 2 weeks before) a new altcoin launched cryptoJack. they started the coin from 30 satoshi and now the price is around 80 to 90 satoshi. you can Imagine, peoples who invested their first Ico got how much profit.
and good think is Xaurum campaign is  even allowing low ranks member. like Jr member and members and paying all them same rates. like 0.033 btc for 25 posts. this is really great rate.

Gambling trading and lending those 3 I think is good for bitcoin investment

Take out gambling from the list and try out the other two.
Gambling is not a place for investing your money if you have a limited amount, gambling is for those who has unlimited money to spend on it and for those who play just for fun but not for winning a lot of profits from it.

you can use bitcoin to trading altcoin or trading bitcoin fiat money
buy coin ICO in new launch coin
you can buy hadware to use real mining is profitable and longterm and forever

I think trading altcoins would be far better than buying hardwares or mining rigs to generate some profits yearly, and i've always heard that mining bitcoins with hardware is maybe profitable but the profit you will get from it is not a lot and it isn't worth the effort and the time you will spend on it.

Have a look at CryptoJacks Signature Campaign :)

Yes, Indeed trading is more profitable than mining. Plus, it is a lot more simple than that, no buying of hardware, no adjustment of software, no high electricity cost and etc... Unlike trading, what you will just to is RESEARCH>BUY>WAIT>SELL>PROFIT. But, before starting trading, you must first have to fully understand the basics and the strategies in trading. Otherwise, you'll likely loose your coin. So, make a deep research first before engaging to this kind of investment. Additionally, Patience is a MUST, sometimes the Market price of the coin you buy will be dumped making you frustrated and wanting to dump your coin also causing negative trade. But if you wait for the right time to sell your coin, you can double or triple it in just a small period of time.


CJ Coin has already a Signature Campaign? That was awesome! I've been trading your coin for a week I think and it makes me double or even triple my BTC. Your coin is awesome Sir. I hope you will continue to have great plans and to make you coins price higher. Looking forward to that Sir. More power and God Bless.

Ya Mr yahoo is campaign Manager and we pay in CJz

May be will change to BTC this week as our price is growing steadily

Staying away from gambling and cloud mining is a good start. There are good projects on the market that are currently at a low price, like Lisk and Decred. And remember, do not put all your eggs in one basket.

You could invest in gambling sites via moneypot, just be prepared to lose some bitcoin if the gamblers lose.

Thats great to here and we want to see a high weekly that we use to see in cj campaign, btw great work for cj the price really steady up these days thats why its very recommendable to their every stage ICO, and lets really what will happen for the price of CJ i already earned my profits since i buy my very own cj coins at 80 sats and planning to keep it for more since devs are having a good planning development for cj coins.

Staying away from gambling and cloud mining websites is really a wise move if someone understands it, and also new members get attracted towards ponzi schemes and HYIPs too early because they think it is easy to earn a lot of money in a less time on internet, but when they get old into this they come to know that it is not easy.

The best way to invest your Bitcoin is in trading or gambling, Since a lot of cloudming or HYIP is scamming the investor and making a huge money.

And if you can just hold it on your wallet and wait for the bitcoin value to increase in market, then you can earn on that way.

It is not easy and it is also very risky thing. in most cases peoples who invest their coins into cloudmining and ponzi sites they lost their money. same situation  is with gambling also. gambling is not a way to earn money and become rich. not a place to invest money and hope for get double. some time peoples may win some good money from gambling if luck help them. but usually not.

It is why I propose a genious system where you invest for free...and where it is impossible to lose...

I could propose you to earn sky with sun ald moon...
I just promise you no lost...

There are too many scammers active in the cloud mining and altcoin market, that right now i would advice any newbie to just hold their bitcoin.
Just like you hold your fiat money, better safe then sorry.

yes it is better to hold if you are just a newbie but if you want to invest or to profit you just needed to make some research and study trading is not that easy but learning the fundamentals will help. good opportunity for you to earn if you will invest your time to study the process.

And mostly newbies get scammed because they are new to internet earnings community and they just believe anything so early because they have made their mind like it is so easy to earn money on internet that is why they give away their money anywhere they see a banner of profit.

Altcoins and icos.

Yes they werr blinded for those to good to be true offer that actually all of them are giving false promise thats why really they will easily victimized by many frauds out here. Thats why if they dont really sure about things they are putting their money will ask for help from more experienced guys is needed so they will not be scammed by self proclaimed investment site out there And they must learned trading since that program is good ways to earn money on world wide web

Well if hes new to this thing really tradings is really the best thing he can learn first and ask guidance for those pro traders so newbies may know the flows and flactuation of the coins in exchangers so by that if they master it well they can assured really to earn money with that and one thing for newbies really to avoid those are hyips and anything what you called out their investment sites because all of them are can be declared as scam since they are build just to scam and fooled people.



In investing in ICO' s to but i am more selective on those since their are many scam coin listed out there and im very choosy for that thing really thats why im only investing for those ICO whos using escrow to safegaurd the money if their project is failed, and if the ICO used 3rd party guy well you can really tell that they are very serious to build an economy coin in altcoin trades.

I didn't see a right place to invest bitcoin now.cause there are scammers around and you won't recognize them fast.but, if you wanna invest bitcoin and agree to take risks.then altcoin is best for you.but if you wanna keep BTC safe then just keep it in wallet.better keep it than sorry. :)

Mostly new users joining this industry get scammed by scammers because new users think that earning bitcoins is really easy and someone can easily get rich with bitcoin but they dont know that earning bitcoin is just like earning fiat money because it has the same value as the real money.

According to Me Trading is best option to invest your Bitcoins because it doesn't involves high Risk and I have personally tried this and it gives me Much profit every month but Not sure it will Works For you or not and For trading you have much knowledge to get succeed in Trading...

it is not because you didn't see a right place to invest bitcoin that it is so...
i have never seen you and it does not mean you are a scammer (lol)

So many people have not seen my investment place
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net
this does not mean it is a scammmer.
But you can be sure...it is free and you can only get profit...
You do not help people if you display false information.
I have never talk here about things i do not know about...
You should do same...

I can not allow to hold my mouth when I hear that every thing is scam...because my system is the live proof that every thing is not scam...

I'm not here to promote my system (lol) but just to informe...
it does not matter than you submit or not.
it does not matter than you profit for free from my system.
it do matter than the truth is said.

here people can just say:
scam...SCAM...all is scam...
But they can not say:
winspiral's u2 system is free and it can only make profit.
is it so hard to tell the truth? (lol)

One of the best place your bitcoin i think is in trading.Though there risks in any investment,by careful study of coins movement,the law of supply and demand,you can decide a better coins to buy that will surely will appreciate.Some trading sites to trade are poloniex,Yobit,ccex,bitfenix etc

Because they are the one whos easily to be fooled thats why its not really advisable for newbies to immediately invest on investment site were they dont know thw background regarding to it and the reason why they are been victim by scam is they dont do research in what is the agenda if the site they are investing on.

So newbies cannot be scam anymore the best palce they can invest is in trading really that is the only reliable program where they can earn money and for who wants to learn patience is needed for this to earn huge money.

Newbies will lose money again if they even try trading because they have no such knowledge that can make them generate any profit for them from trading.
Newbies should just read first of all unless they learn everything they should not try to earn a lot of bitcoins and they should just stick to faucets until they learn everything.

Explain me how newbies can lose money if investment is for free and if you can only make profit?
you trade bad or you trade good...you make profit...you just make more or less profit but always profit;;;even if you are newbies...
And it is not sure that newbies chose the worst trade option.

best investment place your bitcoin is trading
trading altcoin or trading bitcoin
buy hadware and self mining

I have any suggestion for you, just looking and learning on the bold sentences. Maybe you will get a bright in your brain. and stopping promos your site. I hope you will feel awake about that. ::)

First of all I will suggest to not to invest your bitcoin in ant place as everyone is of the view that the price of bitcoin will increase to a higher value in the coming months and if still you want to do something with your coins then I will say invest to start trade.

Someone should only invest his bitcoins in trading if he knows he has enough knowledge about trading and he can make profit with it, and if someone thinks he is not eligible for it he should not go towards it because it will just cause him a loss, so it would be better for him to just hold his coins then putting them under huge risk.

Woot promoting ponzi lels crazy jerk do you think we would be fallen for this sites? And i dont think their are people here would believe you and also winspiral trust scores says that he would be trusted on anything deals to him, thats why we should avoid those site hes promoting so you wouldn't be victimized by hes greedy scheme. And stop promoting that have mercy on innocent soul, pity on you.

No one actually needs to say anything about what he posts because the wise people will just ignore what he says and the ones who fall for this are obvious fools and no one can stop fools from getting fooled.

Hahah, you are very correct. If we see that there are people who post something that can harm us if the following command, then we should better avoid or warn people about it. And only gives the knowledge clearly and succinctly, then it is something appropriate action

You are so much right...but out of context.

My system is risk free and so far makes profit...
And so far it is the best rewarded...I'm sorry...it is the market who wants it...

So long my system will be the best...people will use it...
You can not go against the market...
I agree...it is hard to believe that winspiral's u2 system is the best...
Unfortunately I have so far not found better and so far...NONE has proposed me better.

At this time i don't find any good investments for bitcoin apart from altcoin trading.
Many ponzi's are here to steal your money, so it's better to do something safe with your money

Yes, I do agree that all Ponzi schemes are scams and it is completely waste of time to explore finding any of these sites to invest. But if you want to grow your coins then you can invest in any well reputed and trusted casinos to invest and surely you may make some good profits in the long run. But these investments come with some risks of losing some of your investments if you plan to invest for the short term so go long then one can make some good profit.

Obviously, there is actually no good websites where we can invest our coins and get some reasonable profits on a regular basis so there is only two options that are best one is to just hold them and wait for the price increase and second one is to do trading altcoins with it.

What can we expect more for them? Ponzi is risky investment and very sure will scam people in the long run so better leave the thoughs to earn in that program, and you casino investing is very good choice to earn money also but we must select those reputed casino so we cannot be a victim of scam investment casino already exist in the market because we can trust them if they are running smoothly for many years.

it is so because you have not searched or because you do not believe in what you find.
I propose an realistic economical system where people are members and investors and owners and traders.

Profit is 60% per year (so far...but can change)

To start you invest only time...
Then you do with you investment what you want.
You can only earn,because it is impossible to lose.

Profit is sure...but big profit depends on the market and how members manage their shares.
You can wait much to see a

You can only invest for free or re-invest earnt coins.
Investing in one website can not make sure regular reasonable profits.
I can only promise "no lost"

but finding a good casino for invest is not easy though. every casino owners who start and establish their casinos already find their investors before starting.
so investing in already built and well running casinos is hard. you can only invest in new casinos and this is also good but have risk too.

In this forum, we can find a couple of well-trusted casino sites which is accepting investments for quite long time. So no need to of searching new sites to invest because investing on those new sites will be very risky. Nowadays many scammers are waiting for the opportunity to make some quick bucks to cheat investors.

The part of the scammers is worrying to many people. I would therefore advice to be careful investing in a new site/service.
Just use the traditional ways and you will be safe.

Scammers would never stop scamming people even if they get a small amount from it.
Now a days every second online website that accepts investments is a scam and it doesnt get revealed until many people invest in it and till it gets revealed it earns a lot than they need.

it is why I propose investing for free...
and in few days if you want testing payout...you can get your 10000 satoshi

But generally my investors trust me and try to earn more...
it is normal that you can not sell free investment and get didivends from sold shares...
but i have time to time testers...but after the first payout...the play the game.

How can they stop if they can earn more money for it and it didnt get them sweet to do it so i think they will repeatedly do it again and again, since they dont care they hitting those hard earner in bitcoin industry and let the karma well strike to their path, and the only thing we can do really is to raise some awareness to avoid those site and if people didnt listen and still investing again well being scam is their punishment to grown up.

I would reccomend 1broker or simplefx if you're looking to trade cfds or forex, they offer high leverages even up to 500x. If you're looking to profit from a bitcoin price rise or fall you could try bitmex with a 100x leverage. Finally, if you want to try altcoin trading there is yobit,  you can profit from this but it is risky.

If you talk about trade then every kind of trade has risk involved, so if someone knows he can take the risk and if he believes his plans and knowledge then he should do it otherwise he should try other things and stay away from trading.

The thing that is even harder is that most coins won't tell you with a disclaimer how risky they are.
You have to do it yourself and even then you may find out that the coin you invested in, is very risky.

If you talk about trading alt coins, don't forget to mention to the risk, because altcoin sometimes have the same risk as gambling.
You never know when a developer will dissapear

Totally agree, all trading, investing, and gambling will not be separated from the name of the risk. because all of these systems use a profit and one lose, it's been the law of investments, gambling, and trading. If you want to do any of those things then we should have a provision for basic science about it

Obviously, someone should only dare to invest if he can take the risk because at the end of the day it is your luck that will generate a lot of profits for you from your investment and if you get unlucky your investment can be wasted in any way.