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Title: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: The Fool on January 28, 2013, 09:48:42 PM Quote According to an account that Hagel later gave, and is reported here for the first time, he told Obama: “We are at a time where there is a new world order. We don’t control it. You must question everything, every assumption, everything they” — the military and diplomats — “tell you. Any assumption 10 years old is out of date. You need to question our role. You need to question the military. You need to question what are we using the military for. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-woodward-why-obama-picked-hagel-for-defense-secretary/2013/01/27/b87eb8ce-68ae-11e2-af53-7b2b2a7510a8_story.html Title: Re: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: Luno on January 28, 2013, 10:21:38 PM Quote According to an account that Hagel later gave, and is reported here for the first time, he told Obama: “We are at a time where there is a new world order. We don’t control it. You must question everything, every assumption, everything they” — the military and diplomats — “tell you. Any assumption 10 years old is out of date. You need to question our role. You need to question the military. You need to question what are we using the military for. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-woodward-why-obama-picked-hagel-for-defense-secretary/2013/01/27/b87eb8ce-68ae-11e2-af53-7b2b2a7510a8_story.html It's not the Conspiracy theorists "New World Order" he is talking about. It's the super power war waging mentality in Defence and diplomacy that is, or has to change. Title: Re: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: benjamindees on January 29, 2013, 02:29:34 AM It's not the Conspiracy theorists "New World Order" he is talking about. It's the super power war waging mentality in Defence and diplomacy that is, or has to change. Quote "The president has not had commander-in-chief control of the Pentagon since Bush senior was president," Hagel said privately in 2011. Most people are taking this to mean that GHWB retained control, behind the scenes, since he left office. It has been strongly hinted, even in mainstream media, that he retained control over the CIA. Remember, the "conspiracy theorists' New World Order" is Bush's "New World Order" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chm7vStGV5I). And the only presidents to wage large-scale wars in the US in the last 35 years have been named "Bush". Regardless, rumor is that Hagel won't be confirmed anyways. Title: Re: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: hashman on January 29, 2013, 10:18:00 AM And the only presidents to wage large-scale wars in the US in the last 35 years have been named "Bush". I guess you implying that Obama and Reagan are also named Bush? And Carter? Or maybe you are referring obliquely to some domestic policies ("in the US")? Title: Re: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: benjamindees on January 29, 2013, 02:05:55 PM I admit, I was pretty young at the time, but feel free to enlighten us as to the target of this great American War of the Carter/Reagan years?
Title: Re: Chuck Hagel: "We are at a time where there is a new world order." Post by: hashman on February 03, 2013, 12:02:56 PM I admit, I was pretty young at the time, but feel free to enlighten us as to the target of this great American War of the Carter/Reagan years? Here's a small list to get you started. Zaire - 1975-1978 Jamaica - 1976-1980 Seychelles - 1979-1981 Grenada - 1979-1984 Morocco - 1983 Suriname - 1982-1984 Libya - 1981-1989 Nicaragua - 1981-1990 Panama - 1969-1991 Afghanistan - 1979-1992 El Salvador - 1980-1994 Haiti - 1986-1994 |