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Hello, im curious how Blockchain.info is different from any other payment providers in providing my details (email, login IPs) on law enforcement request? How is it in the reality?

and how they are going to deal with the usage of a vps/vpn or akin service? they will ask the service for a request of the log files?

Blockchain.info is not a payment provider, but that doesn't make it any less susceptible to
government requests for information. In reality, any government can gain, by court order or
legal statute, your information that you willingly (or unwilling) provided to an online site.


"proof they are statutorily empowered to access your data" would refer to countries or governments
were laws exist that allow their citizens information without probable cause, orders, warrants, or the like.
In theory, this could be laws that are used for "fishing expeditions" in tyrannical regimes or even simple
national security laws in Western countries, where you have been flagged for or in a current investigation
such as terrorism.

It all depends on what country you live in. But ultimately, I do not believe Blockchain.info is going to go out of its way
to protect your rights and information, with whatever jurisdiction you are from. If they get a request, they will likely
hand over any info they may be storing for you.

Blockchain has most definitely worded their terms & conditions to give them the power to hand over any data they choose. It does depend a lot on where you're residing and whether the authorities have adequate enough weight to make blockchain help them. It may also depend on what you're accused of doing and the evidence that can be provided.

I think blockchain can refuse to provide any details on a similar grounds on which Apple Inc refused to provide details of his customer to investigating agencies.Even the federal court ruled in Apple's favor

The case you are referring to relates to a cell phone and whether Apple can be forced to "crack" into it.
The situation that OP is referring to is a website that collects and stores your data and
when they are required to hand it over.

There are two different legal issues here.
One is clear and the standard, and have been used for decades if not hundreds of years. (Warrants,orders)
The other is a new concept of forcing a company to decrypt (or crack) their product,
when they designed it to not be decryptable (or crackable, in theory). (the Apple case)

In the United States, a warrant is all that is needed to obtain the online information.
In order to gain a warrant, the government/enforcement agency must prove to a
Judge that the search is needed & valid with some evidence. You must have probable cause.


Blockchain.info can not refuse to disclose the information requested with a valid warrant or order.
In some countries (other than the USA) the government can request without evidence, warrants, or orders.

As has already been said use a VPN, then the only ip they can give over is not even your ip.  pick a good vpn who dosnt store records and then even if the request details from your vpn they cant hand over any information.  ;D

They probably will do.
Cant believe Blockchain would hold against them just to keep the users privace alive.

Unless they specifically state that they will not release any data withiout a court order, you must assume that they will release your data without a court order.

Also, this might be of interest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

Indeed assume on all levels and even with court order I would be getting that court order confirmed and validated and seeing if real or fake as  many try to do with fake documents and fail. Think would be a matter of blockchain being informed with court order and then actually contacting that person before handing over details. But then again, could just hand over all depends on their TOS and rules. If it was for illegal activities then am sure would not over rule it. I would just check their TOS and even contact them to see what they would do in a situation like that.

If I were you, I would avoid using them. A company with such disclosure is for me a traitor regarding the initial spirit of Bitcoin.

I am behind Apple who refuse to help break the security of iPhone...

However, if you do not use bitcoin for anything illegal, you shouldn't be afraid.

Well, I think alot of us would have a lot of explaining and thinking to do if we ever should have to justify every single payment we made using bitcoins. I couldn't even imagine...

Will you trust a company that is not registered with government or has no license to run their business? such company can run away with all your money without a trace and you won't have a remedy.A company must comply with government rules and laws if it wants to operate and get license or registration

Of course Bitcoin will hand over your IP and email upon court orders or else it will be seen as contempt of the court.

This is what they say/shout/claim.

What they are doing behind the scenes is what matters, unless you believe humans only say the truth.

I do not believe what Apple said. I do not own any Apple.

A company in which I have trust and does not follow the laws is far better than one the state trust for me by being the real master in it ::)...