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Title: Extend network for miners
Post by: wolverine5pl on March 13, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
HI guys. Need help. It might sound noobie but I keep my miners in my garage outside.
I used POwerline to get internet there. WOrks great with titan. Problem is I have only one ethernet socket there.
Is there any way to extend it? router? or is it switch? sry bit noob with network


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: sidehack on March 13, 2016, 09:34:47 PM
You'd want a switch.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: notlist3d on March 13, 2016, 11:34:19 PM
You'd want a switch.

And your lucky as it does not take anything super special with bandwidth being low.  So get a reliable switch, but does not have to be the fastest out there. 

So lot's of good cheap options.  Might plan ahead on how many devices you max is on picking size.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: philipma1957 on March 13, 2016, 11:36:53 PM


http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-Port-1000Mbps-Desktop/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_1?


this has 8 ports  allows 1 in and 7 to miners

metal bodied sturdy

good choice





and the 16 port  1 in 15 to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG1016-1000Mbps-16-Port-Gigabit/dp/B002HAJQGA/ref=sr_1_1?




lastly the 5 port 1  in four to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG105-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B00A128S24/ref=sr_1_1?


I have owned all three with zero issues


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: sidehack on March 13, 2016, 11:55:47 PM
I've got a bunch of tplink 10/100 switches all over my hosting, zero issues in a year and a half. Got 'em on eBay for abut $14 apiece.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: QuintLeo on March 14, 2016, 06:13:13 AM
I've never been impressed by TP-Link, though they're not BAD - unlike some of the other cheap stuff out there (DLink and Linksys come immediately to mind).

 I don't bother looking at reliability after a couple years. If it's a switch and it don't last a decade, it's cheap junk.

 I've tended to stick with Netgear "blue box" switches - they just keep going and going and going (some of mine are pushing 20 years and STILL running fine - as is the one Netgear blue-box 10-Base-T HUB I have, at close to 25 years of use, though I'll probably retire that one eventually as I'm moving everything to at least 100-Base).

 I do have one old 3-Com switch, got it cheap at a hamfest along with a buncha 3c509 cards - the cards are about to get retired as they're ISA and I am retiring the last of my ISA machines this spring/summer (20+ cards all 20+ years old, a few have lost the BNC port but ALL of them still work on twisted pair and most are 100% functional still), the switch just keeps running....

 I did make the mistake of buying one of Netgear's "consumer" type plastic-case switches. Once. Never again, it lasted a few years (past warrenttee) but is more than a bit flaky in recent usage, to the point it's about to get replaced.


 To a real degree, you get what you pay for in network switches.



 BTW - for miners, Gigabit is serious overkill. On the other hand, it's gotten cheap enough to make the extra cost a long-term investment if you buy GOOD gear.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: wolverine5pl on March 14, 2016, 12:26:23 PM


http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-Port-1000Mbps-Desktop/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_1?


this has 8 ports  allows 1 in and 7 to miners

metal bodied sturdy

good choice





and the 16 port  1 in 15 to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG1016-1000Mbps-16-Port-Gigabit/dp/B002HAJQGA/ref=sr_1_1?




lastly the 5 port 1  in four to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG105-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B00A128S24/ref=sr_1_1?


I have owned all three with zero issues
thanks:) was looking at something similar http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Port-Ethernet-Switch-LAN-Splitter-Fast-Network-Hub-10-100Mbps-BRAND-NEW-/321998232847?hash=item4af8971d0f:g:ATQAAOSwx-9Wul0J


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: sidehack on March 14, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
Yeah, those Netgear ProSafe switches are nice. I bought a 10-port gigabit in I think 2009, been in constant use without a hitch since then. If I was setting up any kind of permanent network (and had a decent budget) that's what I'd get. I bought a bucket of the cheap switches for hosting because I would need a bucket of them (I have about 20 customers now) and stuff's always moving around and miners are pretty low-demand. The core of the hosting network is a 24-port managed Cicso that's at least a decade old; after swapping some bad caps on the power board it's been working fine.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: philipma1957 on March 14, 2016, 02:44:17 PM


http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-Port-1000Mbps-Desktop/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_1?


this has 8 ports  allows 1 in and 7 to miners

metal bodied sturdy

good choice





and the 16 port  1 in 15 to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG1016-1000Mbps-16-Port-Gigabit/dp/B002HAJQGA/ref=sr_1_1?




lastly the 5 port 1  in four to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG105-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B00A128S24/ref=sr_1_1?


I have owned all three with zero issues
thanks:) was looking at something similar http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Port-Ethernet-Switch-LAN-Splitter-Fast-Network-Hub-10-100Mbps-BRAND-NEW-/321998232847?hash=item4af8971d0f:g:ATQAAOSwx-9Wul0J

your pick is the plastic case  I don't like them.   the only switch to ever fail on me was plastic


since you are uk  this is a good 8 port below

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Boxed-Netgear-Prosafe-8-Port-10-100-Desktop-Switch-FS108-3601779-/322034867843?


or this one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NETGEAR-GS308-100UKS-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-10-100-1000-Mbps-Switch-New-Sealed/272035269183?


this is a good one


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: notlist3d on March 14, 2016, 05:26:37 PM


http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG108-8-Port-1000Mbps-Desktop/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_1?


this has 8 ports  allows 1 in and 7 to miners

metal bodied sturdy

good choice





and the 16 port  1 in 15 to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG1016-1000Mbps-16-Port-Gigabit/dp/B002HAJQGA/ref=sr_1_1?




lastly the 5 port 1  in four to miners

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SG105-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B00A128S24/ref=sr_1_1?


I have owned all three with zero issues
thanks:) was looking at something similar http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Port-Ethernet-Switch-LAN-Splitter-Fast-Network-Hub-10-100Mbps-BRAND-NEW-/321998232847?hash=item4af8971d0f:g:ATQAAOSwx-9Wul0J

your pick is the plastic case  I don't like them.   the only switch to ever fail on me was plastic


since you are uk  this is a good 8 port below

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Boxed-Netgear-Prosafe-8-Port-10-100-Desktop-Switch-FS108-3601779-/322034867843?


or this one


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NETGEAR-GS308-100UKS-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-10-100-1000-Mbps-Switch-New-Sealed/272035269183?


this is a good one

I don't know if I would say I'm anti all plastic.  I have actually used a decent amount of switches and some are good and still use plastic.  I would base it more on the brand.   There are some bargin ones that will work... but you right there is a better chance of problems.

I know have at least one netgear plastic one in my network and it's never had an issue.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: sidehack on March 14, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
I've got a nice metal-case Dell-branded 24 port 10/100 that kicked out about half the ports in the last year. It might have dropped all of them by now, I don't know. It's a big paperweight now.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: QuintLeo on March 15, 2016, 06:43:05 PM
Most of my older switches are the FS108, though the newest are GS108 or GS105 (Office Depot had a heck of a sale on the GS105 a while back, so I got a couple).

 Nothing inherently wrong with plastic - my 3Com switch has a plastic case - but in Netgear the plastic-case stuff tends to be their relatively cheap stuff.



Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: wolverine5pl on March 15, 2016, 06:53:38 PM
will 100mb switch be enough for KNC titan 400mhs and another miner 100mhs?


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: toptek on March 15, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
will 100mb switch be enough for KNC titan 400mhs and another miner 100mhs?

none of  the miners use any large amount band which you could get way with using a 10mb switch if that's all you had i use 10/100/1000 net gear 8 port switchs,I have 4 of them, and use one for Mining, 2 for the net work it self in my home those two have open ports and one is collecting dust right now because i sold off all most all my home farm it was using which was a mistake .I should have waited a little longer. at one time i had 8 ti 9 miners running in my home now maybe four, most of the time 2,waiting for the new stuff to come and hope i can afford it, is why i should have waited . mine are all in metal cases .  and there is nothing wrong with plastic that I know of, can't say i all way bought metal ones never paid to much attention to the case when i bought it.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: toptek on March 15, 2016, 07:19:49 PM
I've got a nice metal-case Dell-branded 24 port 10/100 that kicked out about half the ports in the last year. It might have dropped all of them by now, I don't know. It's a big paperweight now.

I had a 16 port net gear switch 10 /100 up til 4 month ago it went up and i thrashed it after 7 years , so i went and bought two 8 port net gear switches , couldn't find any good deals for a good 16 port so i bought those two off Amazons ware house deal 's they both were brand new with dmg boxes they shipped in, no one wanted, i was told because of the box they shipped in. even got a nice 150 dollar psu that way for 80 or 90 i think because they thought it was over heating and it's in this pc been there for all most 2 years with no issues, one of Corsair 850 gold that get hot but don't, when they came out cost all most 200 bucks brand new.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: Finksy on March 15, 2016, 07:33:43 PM
Quint, I'll second your post about buying quality gear.  I finally made the switch to all Ubiquiti hardware for router/wireless AP and a P2P wireless bridge for a remote location, and what a world of difference. The only problem left is filling in the wasted time spent running around power-cycling shitty D-link gear and making myself look like a magician.

I use the same metal-cased switches Philip linked to, they have been great, though sometimes it would be nice to have remote access.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: QuintLeo on March 16, 2016, 08:00:13 AM
I ran 5 S5s, a Sp20, and 5 A2 Megas with 100-base gear - on a sat connection - easily.
I'm not sure if the whole setup managed to eat 1 megabit/sec - think it was more like 1-10 KILObit/sec ballpark.

 10Base would be overkill for miners at this point, except you can't get less (unless you have ancient Xerox gear that ran the original pre-10 Ethernet).


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: philipma1957 on March 17, 2016, 04:43:03 PM
Quint, I'll second your post about buying quality gear.  I finally made the switch to all Ubiquiti hardware for router/wireless AP and a P2P wireless bridge for a remote location, and what a world of difference. The only problem left is filling in the wasted time spent running around power-cycling shitty D-link gear and making myself look like a magician.

I use the same metal-cased switches Philip linked to, they have been great, though sometimes it would be nice to have remote access.

if you step on a plastic one it breaks.  the 5 port metal one don't break.

and if you are like me and have 8 or nine of them. You will step on one sooner or later. ;D

I now have all 16 port or 8 port.

So I am down to 4 pieces rather then 8.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: Legacy2005 on March 21, 2016, 02:49:54 PM
i found this one on amazon. been pretty happy with it so far. http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-16-Port-Unmanaged-GREENnet-TEG-S16DG/dp/B0044GJ516/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458571381&sr=1-1&keywords=TRENDnet+16-Port+Unmanaged+Gigabit+GREENnet+Desktop+Metal+Housing+Switch%2C+TEG-S16DG (http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-16-Port-Unmanaged-GREENnet-TEG-S16DG/dp/B0044GJ516/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458571381&sr=1-1&keywords=TRENDnet+16-Port+Unmanaged+Gigabit+GREENnet+Desktop+Metal+Housing+Switch%2C+TEG-S16DG)

not really sure how much power im saving by having the "green" ports but nice to think that its actually saving power. also i like the smaller size since the ports are double stacked vs all in a single row.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: Finksy on March 21, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
not really sure how much power im saving by having the "green" ports but nice to think that its actually saving power. also i like the smaller size since the ports are double stacked vs all in a single row.

Probably about the same amount of power one would save by spray-painting other network switches green. :)

Sounds to me a lot like those "eco" products everywhere in grocery stores.  I keep telling my wife the only thing "Eco" about them is the increased fuel economy on the drive home from having a lighter wallet.


Title: Re: Extend network for miners
Post by: Legacy2005 on March 22, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
not really sure how much power im saving by having the "green" ports but nice to think that its actually saving power. also i like the smaller size since the ports are double stacked vs all in a single row.

Probably about the same amount of power one would save by spray-painting other network switches green. :)

Sounds to me a lot like those "eco" products everywhere in grocery stores.  I keep telling my wife the only thing "Eco" about them is the increased fuel economy on the drive home from having a lighter wallet.

and thats what i figured. i bought it for the compactness mostly and i found one in a local store for less then what amazon was asking.