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Title: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 14, 2016, 02:15:25 AM
The Anti-immigration party AfD performed better than expected in all the three states which went to election. They received 24.2% of the vote in the East German state of Sachsen-Anhalt, becoming the second largest party.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cdc9IUOXEAAp8aI.jpg

Full results:

http://www.faz.net/op900/event/landtagswahl-in-sachsen-anhalt-2016/live/


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: Lutpin on March 14, 2016, 02:18:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cK8C7n8.png

Case closed.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: zenitzz on March 14, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
German elections: setbacks for Merkel's CDU as anti-refugee AfD makes big gains


The anti-refugee party, Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), has shaken up Germany’s political landscape with dramatic gains at regional elections, entering state parliament for the first time in three regions off the back of rising anger with Angela Merkel’s asylum policy.

But, in a sign of the increasingly polarised nature of Germany’s political debate, pro-refugee candidates also achieved two resounding victories in the elections – the first to take place in Germany since the chancellor embarked on her flagship open-doors approach to the migration crisis.

Merkel’s Christian Democrat party suffered painful defeats to more left-leaning parties in two out of three states, including Baden-Württemberg, a region dominated by the CDU since the end of the second world war. News weekly Der Spiegel described the result as a “black Sunday” for the conservatives. The CDU also failed to oust the incumbent Social Democrats in Rhineland-Palatinate.

But it was the breakthrough of the AfD – a party that did not exist a little more than three years ago and last year was on the verge of collapse – that was arguably most striking. In Saxony-Anhalt in the former east Germany, the party with links to the far-right Pegida movement had gained 24.4%, according to initial exit polls, thus becoming the second-biggest party behind the CDU. In both Rhineland-Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg, it appeared to have gained 12% and 15%.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/13/anti-refugee-party-makes-big-gains-in-german-state-elections


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: Lethn on March 14, 2016, 08:52:47 AM
Gotta love the narrative the Guardian is running of being against open door policies makes you 'anti-refugee', it's like how the mainsream press is calling left wing protestors 'anti-racist' when really it's just a fucking turf war.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: criptix on March 14, 2016, 10:13:51 AM
Gotta love the narrative the Guardian is running of being against open door policies makes you 'anti-refugee', it's like how the mainsream press is calling left wing protestors 'anti-racist' when really it's just a fucking turf war.

They are talking about the AfD and are correct with their assesment.

There was an significant increase of voters and a lot of them voted AfD an anti-Establishment/everything party - which was caused by a lot of reasons. The refugee crisis is just of them imho.

The sad thing is that the AfD has no real party programm or something similar it is just a protest party that uses the fear of the german citiziens.





Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 14, 2016, 11:15:31 AM
The Anti-immigration party AfD performed better than expected in all the three states which went to election. They received 24.2% of the vote in the East German state of Sachsen-Anhalt, becoming the second largest party.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cdc9IUOXEAAp8aI.jpg

Full results:

http://www.faz.net/op900/event/landtagswahl-in-sachsen-anhalt-2016/live/


Ahahah!
Doesn't remind anything to anyone? ^^

Cause I know another political parti which happened to have a huge success after economic crisis and media manipulation making people believe immigration and terrorism are the big deals...


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 14, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
For the second time in less than a week, the opinion polls have gone horribly wrong. Check this:

1. Opinion polls (and even the exit polls) have Clinton ahead of Sanders by 20 to 25 points in Michigan. Real results: Sanders "bern" Hitlery by 2 points.

2. Opinion polls report 15% to 19% support for AfD in Sachsen-Anhalt. Real results: AfD polls 24.5% of the vote.

I don't know whether there is a deliberate attempt by the mainstream media, to under-estimate the anti-establishment figures/parties in the opinion polls.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 14, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
For the second time in less than a week, the opinion polls have gone horribly wrong. Check this:

1. Opinion polls (and even the exit polls) have Clinton ahead of Sanders by 20 to 25 points in Michigan. Real results: Sanders "bern" Hitlery by 2 points.

2. Opinion polls report 15% to 19% support for AfD in Sachsen-Anhalt. Real results: AfD polls 24.5% of the vote.

I don't know whether there is a deliberate attempt by the mainstream media, to under-estimate the anti-establishment figures/parties in the opinion polls.

Whether what?
Whether needs two parts after, you say for example: "I hope that you enjoy reading the brochure, whether in printed form or online. "

So whether what? I CAN'T STAND THE SUSPENSE!!!!


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: criptix on March 14, 2016, 03:25:02 PM
For the second time in less than a week, the opinion polls have gone horribly wrong. Check this:

1. Opinion polls (and even the exit polls) have Clinton ahead of Sanders by 20 to 25 points in Michigan. Real results: Sanders "bern" Hitlery by 2 points.

2. Opinion polls report 15% to 19% support for AfD in Sachsen-Anhalt. Real results: AfD polls 24.5% of the vote.

I don't know whether there is a deliberate attempt by the mainstream media, to under-estimate the anti-establishment figures/parties in the opinion polls.

I dont know for the US, but german news agencies and similiar all reported a possible 20+% for AfD in sachsen anhalt and 10+% in rheinland-pfalz and baden-Württemberg. And indeed sadly it came true.

His narrative is just that everyone in germany is lying except the right wing :)


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: bitbunnny on March 15, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
She wil have a though fight but I think that seh can make it. Anti-refugee oriented parties are in the pretty good position at the moment but they will not prevale.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 15, 2016, 10:29:03 AM
For the second time in less than a week, the opinion polls have gone horribly wrong. Check this:

1. Opinion polls (and even the exit polls) have Clinton ahead of Sanders by 20 to 25 points in Michigan. Real results: Sanders "bern" Hitlery by 2 points.

2. Opinion polls report 15% to 19% support for AfD in Sachsen-Anhalt. Real results: AfD polls 24.5% of the vote.

I don't know whether there is a deliberate attempt by the mainstream media, to under-estimate the anti-establishment figures/parties in the opinion polls.

I dont know for the US, but german news agencies and similiar all reported a possible 20+% for AfD in sachsen anhalt and 10+% in rheinland-pfalz and baden-Württemberg. And indeed sadly it came true.

His narrative is just that everyone in germany is lying except the right wing :)


No, except the right of the extreme right wing ;)


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 15, 2016, 10:30:03 AM
She wil have a though fight but I think that seh can make it. Anti-refugee oriented parties are in the pretty good position at the moment but they will not prevale.

No?
Well, think again, why wouldn't they?
Refugees and terrorists are simple and easy distractions for banks and companies. They use them as much as they want to make people think they're an important problem.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: becoin on March 15, 2016, 10:32:09 AM
Gayropean Union was raped by the Turkish Sultan and on top of it forced to pay. It is an old Turkish tradition coming from the times of the Ottoman Empire.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 15, 2016, 10:36:51 AM
Gayropean Union was raped by the Turkish Sultan and on top of it forced to pay. It is an old Turkish tradition coming from the times of the Ottoman Empire.

Wut? Why gay? ^^


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: becoin on March 15, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Gayropean Union was raped by the Turkish Sultan and on top of it forced to pay. It is an old Turkish tradition coming from the times of the Ottoman Empire.

Wut? Why gay? ^^
Because only gays on the top of Brussels eureaucracy will pay for being raped.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 15, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
Gayropean Union was raped by the Turkish Sultan and on top of it forced to pay. It is an old Turkish tradition coming from the times of the Ottoman Empire.

It was not a rape. It was consensual sex between Angela Merkel and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Actually it is against the Turkish traditions. Turkish men are usually interested in boys and girls under the age of 12. So Erdoğan banging the 61-year old Angela Merkel was highly unusual and unexpected. But then, we should also remember that Mrs. Merkel paid some € 6 billion for the 2-hour session. For his part, Erdoğan is now the highest-paid sex worker in the history of the human race.

http://order-order.com/2016/03/08/eu-gives-turkey-e6-billion-and-vows-to-scrap-visas-by-june/


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: becoin on March 15, 2016, 11:09:34 AM
Gayropean Union was raped by the Turkish Sultan and on top of it forced to pay. It is an old Turkish tradition coming from the times of the Ottoman Empire.

It was not a rape. It was consensual sex between Angela Merkel and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
Well, it was a rape. After being raped she pretended it was not a rape just to not lose face.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: Snail2 on March 15, 2016, 12:19:41 PM
She wil have a though fight but I think that seh can make it. Anti-refugee oriented parties are in the pretty good position at the moment but they will not prevale.

No, these parties can entrench themselves for a long time, terrorists, uncivilized immigrants, and those who are there for abusing the benefit system will provide them enough ammunition for decades.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: Snail2 on March 15, 2016, 12:26:36 PM
Refugees and terrorists are simple and easy distractions for banks and companies. They use them as much as they want to make people think they're an important problem.

Actually they are going to be a problem. Also good for distractions indeed, but they are going to be a rather big problem on their own in a couple of years. I think in the not so very distant future finally they will end up as scapegoats for a lot of economic and social problems, what was originally created by banks and companies and their sock-puppets in various parliaments. You can already see the first signs.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: yugo23 on March 15, 2016, 01:26:46 PM
Refugees and terrorists are simple and easy distractions for banks and companies. They use them as much as they want to make people think they're an important problem.

Actually they are going to be a problem. Also good for distractions indeed, but they are going to be a rather big problem on their own in a couple of years. I think in the not so very distant future finally they will end up as scapegoats for a lot of economic and social problems, what was originally created by banks and companies and their sock-puppets in various parliaments. You can already see the first signs.

That's for sure!
Refugees wouldn't be even the beginning of a problem without banks and companies fucking around. We wouldn't have unemployment and we would have largely enough money to fund their education. Refugees would only be an excellent source of new population, younger and different in order to change both our habits and culture.

But as banks and companies take between 70 and 40% of GDP depending on the country, for sure they need to give out a scapegoat. They point terrorism like it's a real threat while every year they kill 100 times more people.


Title: Re: Merkel's party routed in German state elections
Post by: Iseecookies on March 15, 2016, 08:56:58 PM
Never trust a poll should be the first thing out of any ones mouth that has watched any election.
Even Canada is starting to pull back on the migrants we allow here,its hard to place people with such big families and they all arrive kind of bewildered. So far most of them are placed in cheap hotels to stew. We just do not have the tools to deal with this many people coming in. Imagine Europe is in 100x worse a situation.