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Satoshimine seems a bit rigged to me, seems when u go all in you always lose, anyone else agree ?
Also i don't believe in this so called "provably fair" proof nonesense. Why does it make it fair ?
I think we will never know only the site owner will. Any thoughts ?

Provably fair simply means that you can check if you lost your money fairly or were cheated. Take notes of the hashes before the game, and after the game you can verify it. Might take a bit of research to figure out how it all works, but it's a great feeling. You will now have the power to know 100% if you were unlucky or cheated.

I think satoshiDice is one of the oldest gambling websites, they follow the provably fair logic and lotta people had lost loooooooooootta coins there (I'm one of them... lost ~6BTC in 2014)... but it's gabling, how could I cry? I lost, somebody won, and that's on...

To add on to RHavar's explanation, if you want to go in-depth into the provably fair explanation, satoshi dice has a full explanation of their system here: https://www.satoshidice.com/provably-fair/

Check the provable fairness, it is their for that reason only but the thing is when you lose everything seems rigged, just don't gamble anymore than you can afford to lose.

Well, provably fair is not nonsense. As it's name suggests, it's provably fair. So you can proof yourself that you lost/won fairly.

this site operates for a numbers of years now and I guess betting with it is your risk probably fair only means that you can always review what happen to your bet after losing it or after winning this one will let you check if bookmakers removed correct amount with your account. I think there is no fair with gambling, it is just your luck will say,.

they already take % off the weggered bets but i have the same unlucky like you always when i try to go all in i lose all :) but thats gambling ..

Personaly i dont think that they are fair so i dont play there, i would rather risk my coins at primedice then there but as you wish your coins your choice :3
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-Katerniko1

I think satoshidice is not well managed, Support is rarely online and the website has allot of bugs, It's a big site but still annoying.

That is not what we are discussing here.

Satoshidice is one of the oldest sites, and if it was not fair, it would have been proved by now. If you really think you are being cheated than check it yourself.

Provably fair means that your bet is encrypted and no one can cheat you. Unless he have a time machine ;)
If gambling website is provably fair you can be sure that everything is legit.

You're probably a butthurt gambler experiencing consecutive losses and looking for something to blame. There's a provably fair system that will prove everything's fair, obviously. Do a quick research how it works and you'll be enlightened.

Blame yourself for being greedy and unlucky. You're ridiculous ;D

Ok iv'e read everyone's opinions. I hear what you guys are saying but are you sure there is not a way to fake the provably fair ? And i'm not butthurt because i lost, i knew someone would say that. I don't think every site i lose on then it's rigged. Just that some sites seem very very suspiciously convenient at times. Too convenient....

I also know i'm one of many who feel this way. And yes i know it's been around for awhile and that its established.

only if you verify it. They for instance could selectively be ripping people off. If you want to prove it was fair, you need to verify the games for yourself.

They could also be using some elaborate system.

See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965

999dice hid their non-provably fair system really well, it was so well done most if not all users didn't notice.

However, this is extremely rare as they have more to gain by staying then by running with user's money.

I am a regular and old user of Satoshidice , Till now I have made only profits there , And I have never heard anybody saying Its a scam ,

Satoshidice or Satoshimines?

AFAIK both don't share the same ownership.

Sorry guys i ment to say Satoshimines not Satoshidice. Sorry about that my mistake.

Satoshi Mine is not rigged because you can verify the authenticity of your bets. It's just that you are choosing the wrong tile/area, or you are just unlucky. You should come up with proofs before making such claims.

Lol i'm not wasting money making proofs. The only sites i think are rigged are satoshimine and freebtc and freedogecoin. Satoshi mine seems to be bias as max betting no matter how many btc you use it seems when you go all in it screws you over. I find it hard to believe 3x i lose with a 1/25 rate of failure then 2x on 3/25 chance to lose.

It's fair. Did you verify your bets? Don't accuse them unless you found a bet that didn't verify or you think they have a setup like 999dice.
3 losses on 1 mine? Not impossible. 1/25*1/25*1/25 = 1/15625 chance of that, which means it is possible. Maybe you were just unlucky. Losing twice in a row on 3/25? Not impossible either, in fact it isn't extremely rare. 3/25*3/25=9/125 = 7.2% chance of happening.

Satoshimines are one of the oldest gambling sites online out there.It is a fair game since they just control the place of mines and you're the one who is clicking so its fair.Why you said that it was rigged?Dont you know what is hash before game is for?You might  check it from time to time each game you play to check if you were cheated by the site or not,provably fair is not about the play its about how you lose nor win

Satoshimine is one of the fair gambling site because it is easy to win or to earn bitcoin or to get a chance to double triple your capital. It is also a very simple game you just need to click the box and avoid the bomb that to easy for me and I can create a plan. And it is also cheap capital initial fund.

My own contribution is that so far its gambling you cant really know whether its cheating or fairness irrespective of what ever the site might have claimed so the best is to not forget the basic rule of gambling which is to bet what you can afford to lose...

Yes that is a good rule to follow even if you dont know it is trusted dont bet so much.


I just get this gut feeling it is rigged. I know crazy things happen with odds but it seems just too convienant that you seem to lose a lot more often when you go in with most of your capital.

In anyways what is not fair for you would be fair to someone but just my opinion don't really put your self too much and also your money in any sites play only what you can afford to lose.

I think its fair, they dare to put their provably fair system, so i think the site is legit, maybe it just your luck, but if you think you have been rigged then find another site to play, i ever saw my friends win 1 btc playing in satoshimine, so for me its fair

Satoshimine has been running for how many years now? 2? 3? I don't exactly remember but I've played on it since last year I think. I've never really gained a lot from satoshimine but I do believe it's fair. I've probably gained about 0.012 BTC as profit from satoshimine from my overall playing with it.

Honestly i just new in my ear to hear satoshimine i heard this game past few months but i think it is provably fair because i saw a video tutorial about this game it is just like the same as the game in your pc so when i tried the game its just like the as the game in my computer games.

your right op is accusing without verifying his bet and i have to ask one thing how do i verify bets in satoshimines because im too lazy to look up in the site and i also lose in that site

To verify your bets, you can use this tool:

http://www.convertstring.com/Hash/SHA256

If you need more help on how to use this, you can read about it here (https://satoshimines.com/help).

I agree with you,  before claiming that is rigged  make sure to show some proofs. Satoshimines have hash every time you  play which could  display that  it really uses a provably fair system. If you are really curios about it then go to their FAQs and surely you would understand what i mean.

I think this is the best answer of what the definition of "Probably Fair" . lol Thanks that I found this one. Hahaha

-Provably fair simply means that you can check if you lost your money fairly or were cheated.

op has asked about the satoshimines but dont know why many users are commenting about satoshidice they both are completely different.So please read carefuly before posting anything.
And to answer your question,i think satoshimines is a provably fair site because i am also using satoshimines for about an year,and i didnt feel any problem there,you can also contact their admin who also replies quiet quickly within 24 hours.

Satoshimines? Well this look fair to me. However it depends on you how fair you play and how you bet!
A year back i made 3.2 Bitcoins by betting only 0.5 btc but when i got 3.2 i got pumped and bet all at once an lost all the money in 3-4 bets and that was so fast like in 30 seconds i have lost 3.2 bitcoins.
Well for me the satoshimines is fair. I guess we can verify the bet.


The admin never replied to my E-mail.

I received recently e-mail from support regarding my lost unique URL of my account. They actually help me but it took 1 day before they reply.
Maybe you just check if you use the correct email of support or take a look on spam message(just probability).

I don't know but some people has give a proof they can get easy money at there but i never believe because when i try always get lose.

Good for correcting yourself about this. So you wont be responsible for tarnishing someone reputation that has been built over the years...

Same here many people here before that sharing their methods but i never experience any real winning or profit when they are sharing methods they i didn't see any good feedbacks.. so i think the game is depends in your luck..

I think it's not good for you if never made any profit in dice game, you need to stop it and play in the other games, I recommend you to play poker games or sport betting.

Did you read the OP? Satoshimines is not a dice game, it's a minesweeper game.

However, I do agree with the second aspect of your response; if you lose all the time, why play? Perhaps try a different game, or maybe don't play at all and save your money. It's up to you.

Poker real game or live good is one of the entertainment game for me so i suggest you to play poker live its more chance to win that you are playing to enemy not a bot real human.. its more fun to gamble in sports betting while you are watching your team you in game has a trill.

Satoshimine is a very fair game site because I always win in that game. Just set your profit goal to not lost in the game because if you are greedy your are a high chance to lost in the game. So think it before you click the box. Dont worry it is always a fifty fifty chance to win or to lost. Just trust yourself.

This is just luck and gambling strategy (if you can even call it that). What the OP is trying to discuss is whether the Satoshimines game is 100% fair. From my observation, their provably fair system makes it easy to cryptographically prove the validity of your bets.

Just because it give you profit so their site is have a fair games? That is not making any sense though, because in every gambling you need luck to get your winning so without any luck you wont achieve anything though and btw there is no 50/50 winning chance because in every site, they always have house edge which mean in the long run you will always lose it, so whether you believe it or not then try to put it in a long run and we will see how much you will earn for sure

i see the point that house always have its advantage because of this house edge so playing in a long run will assure the house to wins against the players and if players got out of luck for sure the house will win. regarding to the game itself i think satoshimine have a fair system so chances to win over chances to lose is all about our luck.

You want to see the proofs ? Here is the topic where you can find lots of played game link. I was a additive player of satoshimines. Link = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=912564.0

Check full topic for the proofs of winning.

In playing satoshimines  you would really need  luck in able to be  profitable with it , in your case you are just  lucky that you dont  click those  tiles that have bombs. I could  also say that  site do use  provably fair system because  you could  see the hash  in  every bet you made , it would somehow assure  you that  they are not manipulating the results.

So if you lose in provably fair game than it would not be fair anymore, this is quite confusing for me you are always winning on that game and that is why you are saying like this, satoshimines is luck based game and have provably fair system so when we can verify the each outcome than it mean it's fair, it doesn't matter we win or lost there.

You always win on satoshimines ? That's a really unbelievable statement. If it will become true , then you might have won and make the hot wallet of satoshimines admin and you will become richest person on this forum. Isn't  it ?

Come to reality bro. No one win every time in this site or any gambling site.

Gambling sites, like Satoshimine, almost always win, of course there are some players, which make great win, but in almost all cases gambling site get 1% profit. Sometimes if you can speak with serious players, they can share some gambling secrets how to win.  ;)

You didn't read the words before posting? He asked satoshimines, not satoshidice, mate. :D

For me it is probably fair because I always win in this gambling site. You know let me share my method this 100% winning. You need only 0.1 btc initial funds then bet to 1 satoshi only and multiply it at 10 if you are lost then start again in 1 satoshi if you win. The chance to lost in this game is 18 consecutive lost which if you have 0.1 btc it means you will lost strict is nearly 20 and up so you are safe.

Depends what site not almost all gambling casino are fair.. some of them are not..  in my testing while playing in sweepabit moneypot as wallet..
The game is good i tried to set it in 1 bomb 3 bomb and 5 bomb.. i made a small profit and i stop after i get my goal.. do you have any bots for this game.. because i saw one of the player out there that they are betting too fast and i am sure he is using a bot to gamble there.. i saw that he made a good profit because he gain more greens than red and martingale is his strategy..

Well it is only because you are lucky man for those do not have luck in their body. They probably lost I swear because when I play this kind of gambling I lost in a row and never play again. Its easy to lost and hard to win. Its easy to get some guidlines on how to win but at the end of the day you will lost again.

yes , you are right , all about betting loss and profit depends upon the admin of the site . i also falls in the greediness os satoshimines provably fair but when i loss then i sure that all gambling are wrost way to get bitcoin .

We commonly say these things  into a site when we lose  on their game, and  that  is  happening on almost  lossers out there. They are  murmuring and questioning  about the  provably fair  of a certain site. If you are quite hesistant at first and  have any suspicion then dont  play at all.

Actually it depends on what game you are playing at because some games sure need some luck to play but other game like poker need a lot of skills to play and luck is only some part of it though. The point to gambling is you really need skills, luck and the important things is bankroll which can boost your luck a little bit so you can still get some profit around