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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398969.msg14219113#msg14219113

Any professional software developer knows that you don't use ports <1025 for server applications other than those that are the most trusted (and generally oldest) such as SSH, IMAP, POP3, SMTP and HTTP (being the most common of those).

Bitcoin does not use a port <1025 and in fact basically no alts do either *except* IOTA (where the port number was actually hard-coded into the software).

Now apparently @CfB thinks that I need to enter into a 50 BTC bet in order for him to explain his use of such a port (that no other professional software engineer would use).

Also @CfB is in fact *not a professional software engineer* (he shows no record of having been employed by any company that anyone knows of and his code has been reviewed by several actual software engineers and described as being "terrible").

I do understand that most of the IOTA investors are just wanting to "get rich quick" so they probably don't even care but I do think that the point needs to be made that this person is "pretending to be a software engineer".

SSH, IMAP, POP3, SMTP, IOTA, HTTP
protocols all use ports < 1025,
whats the problem?
 

Did you not read the OP at all?

Standard *nix servers that use those ports are expected to run as *root* but not others (don't put IOTA in that list please as it is just plain stupid to do so).

If Linus Torvald supports your scam coin then I'll happily lock this topic. ;)

I'm talking about STANDARD PROTOCOL-s. IOTA is a payment protocol, like SFTP is a protocol to transfer files, its obvious.
You can run iota software as a daemon on NIX systems.

Nope - it is not.

For a start - if you look at any of the "standard protocol apps" they don't hard-code the ports (so it fails at even trying to "pretend to be like a standard daemon").

I understand that you are probably being paid to post but you are clearly "out of your depth" in this topic (perhaps you should stick to the non-technical ones).

Software written as simple as possible for learning purposes can hardcode this stuff.

What on earth are you talking about?

Software that uses restricted ports and hard-codes them is simply "shit software".

If IOTA is "just for learning" then why on earth take peoples money to do so?

(are you going to refund everyone for pretending to create a serious piece of software?)

Well they offer me to buy some software during Crowdsale, I liked the idea DAG and bought some.

What have I done wrong  ???

Thought everyone already wrote off this subject as easily explainable:

https://i.imgur.com/c5Up7Xu.jpg

If you want to speculate on software that is created by someone who isn't even a qualified software engineer then that is up to you.

(just don't complain when it all goes sour as you didn't want to know anything other than the idea you might make some profit)

Did you verify that Iota adhered to all laws and regulations for selling investment securities in every jurisdiction where they offered the "tokens" for sale to investors?

Specifically did they register these tokens with the SEC in the USA? If not, did they restrict non-qualified USA investors from obtaining the coins?

I hope you aware it is against the policy of crowdfunding sites such as Kickstarter and Indiegogo to offer any shares or redeemable tokens to contributors.

I use Facebook (software written by not a qualified software engineer Mark Zuckerberg) - have no problems during last 10 years.

But thank you.

Aha - and what has @CfB written that is equivalent to Facebook?

(don't tell me that IOTA is as even the first version of Facebook was much better written than that crap)

Nonsense. Facebook has 1000s of employees and many professional software engineers.

Dude, you're never gonna make progress or history if you adhere to all laws and regulations. They are specifically created to maintain status quo, keep you in the dark. It's a start of Knowledge Age by your own prognostications, think how you can change the world, forget regulations :)

Where can I view the source code of first version of facebook ? Or you are talking about GUI ?

Seriously - have you heard of files such as /etc/ssh/sshd.config or are you entirely ignorant?

(and if you're entirely ignorant then why on earth are you investing your money in something that you don't understand?)

Also Facebook uses HTTP idiot (so your comparison is retarded as it to be expected from a shill who knows nothing).

(and no I don't see any reason to be nice or polite to obvious shills of a scam coin such as yourself)

You kinda alluding that you hacked facebook in early days via sshd vulnerability and steal the source code  ???

Further idiotic posts from an obvious shill.

When you don't understand the first thing about the internet why on earth would you invest your money with an unprofessional software developer who claims that "ternary logic" is some sort of "magic mist"?

Hm, same holds for most coins here since no issuer needs to lay out the risks...

I don't think that you understand how token sales work.

First thing about the internet is that Linux servers is been manageable via ssh even Red Hat Satellite uses it, but keep enlightening me Mr. Non Idiot qualified software engineer  :)

The above sentence doesn't even make sense.

Perhaps you need to learn English or computer science before posting again?

Haha, you ran out of alcohol Ian and decided to copypaste a vacuous attempt by someone else from a couple days back?

And to think I ever believed that despite your flaws and trolling that you had some sort of technical ability. You should go back to doing music Ian

Good - I've got you here as well - it is nice to see all the scammers in the one topic.

(you still can't answer the OP question though can you)

:D

I guess rooting helps to test better, with no privileges faults etc. Also more quick. Anyways, for Reference Implementation, I can't see why not. I bet it can/will change in the future, so no harm to think out of the box (yes even out of these IT/networking manuals) for specific purposes.

Sorry - that is just rubbish.

You do not create seriously *dangerous software* (and that is why Linux prevents non-root users from running daemons with ports less than 1025) for any purpose other than a bad one.

So either @CfB is incompetent (should have used a port >= 1025 or at least put that in a config file) or he is malicious (trying to control peoples computers as "root").

Take your pick. ;)

I'm now sober?

Strange how you keep changing between saying that I am drunk or not.

(you should probably try and be more consistent)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398969.msg14222713#msg14222713

Apparently because "security is a PITA". :D

(we can see now why he didn't want to come clean)

Also apparently a "reference implementation" (in Belarus at least) is a "poorly written piece of insecure code" (most other people would probably use the word "prototype" instead).

Hopefully the software isn't some sort of back door that the suckers have installed with root privileges.

Congratulations - it would be pretty certain to say that you spent more time finding that image to make fun of me than @CfB did on the security of his software (maybe he should hire you as his security expert). :D

Also - thanks for the bump (the "non-investors" should be aware of exactly what they are involved with so the trolling only helps).

Yup - pathetic ad-homs are about all you lot have isn't it.

(we know for certain that you don't have any decent software)

Yeah, right, boozy  ::)

It should be noted that having a daemon running with root privileges could result in the OS being attacked (especially when the software is of such poor/prototype quality).

Those that decide they are going to run this software would be advised to at least run the software in a VM for their own protection.

Hey CIYAM you stupid dude you are not a programmer you old idiot

You promised much for Nxt but nothing furnished

What are you drinking today you pathetic piece of shit ?  :o

Thankfully we can use trolls as an effective way to keep bumping a topic up. ;)

Warning: Do not run IOTA unless you are running it in a VM or risk your OS being attacked.

(and if you are a non-investor then maybe you should consider really becoming a non-investor)

Thanks again to our bumping troll we can be sure that everyone on this forum will learn that IOTA has been so poorly coded that you would be at risk of being back-doored were you to install and run it (my advice would be simply not to do that at all).

Ian, why don't you give it a break. You're rep is bad enough:

You are a proven thief. [1]
You are a proven liar. [1]
You are a proven extortionist. [1]
You are an unsuccessful developer. [2]
You are a pathetic ad-hominem attack guy. [3]

On the bright side, you do have experience and potential. But you need to control your anger and jealousy and accept the fact that there are brighter and more succesful devs out there.
Stop drinking, try to get on their team, control your delusions of grandeur and you might be able to find contentment and happiness.


[1]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084350.10

[2]
"A platform for creating and maintaining 100% generated C++ web applications." -> I know you spent half a lifetime on this, but frankly, there is no demand for it - ever.

[3]

Again we get another troll bump.

Keep up the good work guys.

Warning: IOTA is insecure poorly written software and should be assumed to be a back-door (or worse).

My, my what lovely sorts of people this IOTA project attracts to itself.  ::)

Warning: If you have installed this software and given it root privileges you should consider the OS as being at risk of attack.

What's interesting is that if the IOTA crowd spent as much effort on coding as they do on trolling then arguably we wouldn't even be discussing about the dangers of installing it.

This tiresome troll seems to be running out of ammunition (just repeating insults now).

Maybe you should work a bit harder at it. ;)

Installing software that needs root privileges is never recommended - the trolls here are at least helping us to get this message out.

If you have installed such software and are worried about any possible issues you would be best to back up any sensitive files that you have and then re-install your OS.

If you are thinking of installing such software then use a VM to "sandbox" it in.

Your new material is even more factually flawed than your previous stuff - but keep trying.

Note that if you don't understand how to install a VM you should do some research about that before even considering installing software that requires root privileges.

Note also that a firewall is not going to help you if you have already opened up a port and have software running with root privileges.

It's rather obvious with this persistent trolling that the last thing that IOTA project actually wants is any close scrutiny about their software.

As much as I could keep playing with this silly little troll I actually would prefer to do some coding (something the people at IOTA should consider doing a bit more of themselves).

I think this topic has been noticed enough to have served its purpose.

Finally, again, if you are going to run the software in question you would be best to do so within a VM.