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Instead of calling the police 911 you can use the app Cell 411 and be helped by your friends and other users.

The app is growing rapidly. I approached the founder and he was open to receive a financing in crypto.


Very proud:

http://truthvoice.com/2016/03/cell-411-inc-receives-200000-seed-capital-announces-version-3-release/

http://cointelegraph.com/news/decentralized-emergency-response-app-cell-411-receives-angel-investment-all-in-crypto


Great interview:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/sovereignbtc-84-marc-de-mesel-on-the-cell411-p2p-defense-app-and-investing-in-crypto

In an anarchic society, something like this would work. I just personally believe that this is going to have a... "unique" time with all the various things that will happen or I predict will happen thanks to the use of this app.

I hate to say it, but I'm not sure how well this would work. It certainly would help get people less dependent on the government, but this could end up backfiring.

And 300BTC is a massive investment...

Cool. However I really doubt the survival chances of this type of application. I'd rather call my local police than calling my friends in case of emergency. If I forgot to bring my wallet after eating a dinner, I would be able to call my friends using default cellphone - there is no need for this type of app.

I do wish to see this application success however since it received funding in cryptocurrencies. :).

I think this is a lot of what 4by2 was saying, there isn't a whole lot of potential for this aside for those who are maybe in the bad parts of town. But I too can't see this immediately working considering the ability for the police to show up at a relatively quick pace, or at least the ability to shoot if they trespass on your property.

WOW that's a lot of bitcoin you had to invest. Did you buy shares in the company or is it just a private investment? I do hope you have great success in the app and hope you have a good marketing team behind it. I would love to blog about it on my coin blog for a small bag of satoshi :)  :). Would be good to get the word out. I love new innovations in technology and wish I was much younger to enjoy the rapid pace of development.

have to say its a pretty neat idea, never heard about apps like this before got me abit intrested going to look it up. it sounds like a good thing :)

There are examples of many services that can be used from the app level instead of phone calling, so why not the emergency alerts? Mobile apps provide many feature, that can save your time and improve effectiveness - that things are crucial for alerting anyone. Good job  :)

i don't get why would someone choose to call a friend in case of emergency!
emergency services like police, ambulance,... can get there much faster than my friends can. maybe it is good for some country that doesn't have a decent emergency service.

those devs should spend their time and money on something that has practical use.

Sign a message by the private key of the address from where u have sent 300 BTC. Till then u r just bluffing.

This app is for ghettos and gangbangers. Like Fergusson, Missouri or the many French immigrant arrondissement.

Thats is the great news. This app will be very popular and involving bitcoins for such popular apps will help Bitcoin
grow a great deal.
We should all encourage these type of apps and solution which promote Bitcoin or uses bitcoin in some way or other.

Cointelegraph did also great article on it  8)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/decentralized-emergency-response-app-cell-411-receives-angel-investment-all-in-crypto


The author, Joël Valenzuela, by the way inspired the Cell 411 founder Virgil on porcfest last year with his self made porcalert app.  :)

Still busy with the transaction, transfered 205 BTC.


Here the bitcoin address of Cell 411 Inc:

https://blockchain.info/address/1FVteQF2NCPAgnbbpRuqowTLxcCE2YsyKo


Tomorrow I make the last btc payment which will bring the total on 300 BTC.


After that the NXT payment.  8)

 

Thanks so much all for your support! :)

I think this is instrumental because VC's today, even when they invest in bitcoin startups, invest with USD.

To my knowledge this is the first VC investment fully done with crypto.

Wow dude thats freaking insane. How did you get all that money to begin with?
In any case, about the app, I think this is the type of stuff that ends up getting regulated by governments. There is a risk that they don't like people "playing policemen" so to speak, this is why the software should be decentralized and anonymous.
Just like Uber has all those regulation problems because they are competence against taxi, we may see some problems with this. Overall sounds good tho.

The App can come in handy, when you getting gang banged in a pub or something, but when you are in real trouble, I would rather call a ambulance or the police. I agree with one of the other posted.. post

proof of this investment or we call it BS. Why would they need that much money to develop a App to call 10 people when you are in shit street? Just put a close friend on speed dial and you set to go. Or use

a WhatsAPP group, created for emergency purposes.  ::)  

i wish this app will get success and make some people trust to bitcoin so bitcoin price will up fast and i hope media will not give negative side to bitcoin again.

Cong.Marc De Mesel  :)
Shared on blockchain.hk (http://blockchain.hk/cell411-receive-crypto-investment/)

I think this kind of app is a good idea, but I understand the concerns of others in this thread; the network can only be as good as the participants. Where I disagree must is with their wholly negative view of the possibilities; if people with professional standards of medical or personal security register, it has the potential to deliver a far better service than current centralised providers.

Reliable identification of both good and bad actors will be the key to success for this app. If both can be reliably ascertained (at least by, say, other natives of the same country/region), then this model could totally outcompete centralised emergency services on speed, care, and price. If you've got good emergency care skills, and you want Bitcoin, I'm buying.

its not a new idea.  we did something similar a few years ago.   http://prmac.com/release-id-6017.htm

(ours didnt do so well, hope theirs does better)

-- Jez

This app is an amazing idea... I don't have a clue on how a system like this doesn't simply come bundled with services like Friends from Apple and Android Device Manager. I guess this app fills in the blank spot. Downloading it now, definitely going to give it a try.

As for the funding, if it was in fact OP that gave them the coins, thank you, this is much needed and quite appreciated by the community and devs. And of course the founder was open to investment with crypto... He's pictured on the website with a Bitcoin t-shirt :P

Sounds like an intersting app, however i am not sure i would use it.  it might be usefull for an elderly person or someone who is home bound.  that is a serious investment......

an Italian company have an hardware version of it, is a 15 year old product..

http://www.beghelli.it/it/ita/prodotti.asp?idProd=7544

This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas I have heard of this week.

If true, you just blew 300 BTC.

Police in certain areas come with a double edged sword,one minute they are there to help,the next minute they are busting you for some infraction they came across well helping you out. The law is usually the heavy for the government and once you cross the line you will feel the full force of that power. Having another option is a great way to reign in corrupt establishments.
Great idea,one hell of a investment though!

300 BTC payment has been completed:

https://blockchain.info/address/1FVteQF2NCPAgnbbpRuqowTLxcCE2YsyKo

Thanks :) I bought myself in ofcourse.

My portfolio was 80% crypto so I'm happy to diversify some into this promising startup.

I inherited money at young age. I focused on investing it well, did some good moves, some bad moves. My returns averaged 5% per year, but that is the same as the inflation rate, so my purchasing power did not go up since I started investing my inheritance 10 years ago, but I was able to live from it while not seeing my purchasing power go down, which is already a great achievement for an investor :)


Very good point about the app. I thought there was a high chance that bitcoin would be outlawed when I started investing in it at the end of 2012 around $10. But instead they allowed it to happen. Ofcourse bitcoin was decentralized from the start, which is likely the reason why no government agency started clamping down on it, as they did before with anyone setting up a competing currency.


I think an app like Cell 411 however has much lower chance to be clamped down on. To my knowledge, sometimes such apps or devices becomes 'illegal' to use, like cop alerting devices for in cars, but they never shut down the company producing it, right? 

Uber I think is a good example that very disruptive technologies that are even 'verboten' in certain states, don't need to be build as a decentralized app for them to become successful.

thanks for the info  :)

Thanks :) Very true. People think police is there to help but police is first and foremost there to 'keep order'. They work for the local ruler, not for you.

Thanks Jez. What would be your recommendation to succeed?

Why do you think yours failed?

This is a great invention. lucky you to invest in it. Good luck to you friend.

Thanks for great advise Carlton 8)

It's not a good idea to be in contact with cops. The service is generally very poor, and you risk getting into trouble yourself.

If you have to, you have to, but an app like this may become much more useful than what the cops offer you.


I don't think this app will work by just adding your current friends eventhough it is a good way to start by adding some close friends/family that you depend on currently.  

But just like Waze for example, that alerts you where cops are on the road, if there is an accident en route, etc, you get helped much more by other user who love the app and want to help and build a strong reputation.

wow you are just a millionaire .congrats on your investment. i am hearing abt this for the first time. i hope its a wise investment

Funny you are here on a Bitcoin forum if this is your belief, no?

The idea with this App, much like Bitcoin, is decentralization. Less dependency on a monopolized government service, which in many (if not most) places is corrupt beyond belief.

Cops are above the law. Nobody polices the police and that means they literally get away with murder. It happens daily! Pull your head out of your ass and you'd see this. Police are no longer our friends like they might have been 50 years ago. Instead they've become true "law enforcement officers", that essentially enforce whatever bullshit they are commanded to. They go around harassing the public, not serving them. We absolutely need this type of competition in protection services to keep everyone honest.

Most of my friends are drunk or stoned or don't have a driving licence because of the prior reasons. I also don't think they're going to be willing to risk their necks if I'm being raped. I'll stick to the people who are actually trained and paid to deal with it even if that makes me a commie faggot.

WOW! :) John Bush interviewed me for his show SovereignBTC on 'Let's Talk Bitcoin', why I invested so much in Cell 411. We also talk about Bitcoin, NXT, and other cryptocurrencies:

https://soundcloud.com/sovereignbtc/sovereignbtc-84


Very proud of it, please retweet:
https://twitter.com/marcdemesel/status/711532801825378304

Or share on your facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/marc.demesel/posts/10153847317586418

I would also trust more institutions that we are already paying to keep us safe, don't really see the point in redundancy in this matter.
if anyone is not satisfied with what they are getting from them, there are ways to change that. But it's all a matter of personal choice in the end.

if i were in a situation that i was in that much trouble i wouldnt want my friends involved (much as they would want to be) i would rather have the professional responders do it. they are paid to take the risk, my friends are not.

Living in Canada, I wouldn't find this very useful. I do understand how in other countries it would make sense. If you're in a country that has corrupt police officers you'd much rather call your friends/family than some corrupt cop looking for a bribe.

Living in Canada, you should realise that every Canadian lives under constant threat of capture or theft if they are caught evading the government's institutionalized protection racket. The fact that many deem this to be incorrupt only demonstrates that those people are not fit to be free anyway.

Would you concede that the Candian government, using it's police force, insists that you pay them bribes (aka extortion), lest your liberty or property be stolen from you using said police force?

So this is an app that calls your buddies if the corrupt police are about to blow you away? And your buddies are gonna turn up packing heat and fill the cops with lead? And people put money into this?

To take on your extreme example, can we assume that given those circumstances, you would stand still like a good boy while the police line up a decent headshot?  ::)

Well besides boost the speed time of reaction it may save lifes,how many of us lost someone because emergency system tooked too much to come and when they come the people is almost dead.Soo this will safe some more lifes as the neighbour can take the friend to the hospital ,besides that i see potencial here,as there are a lot attacks everyday soo with this app its possible to join all against the bad persons.

I'm not really following what you're saying. What I was talking about would be this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index)

In the 'red' or 'black' countries this would make a lot of sense.

Ok, it's a little ironic that you've posted a link to a document titled "Corruption Perceptions".

Corruption is subjective: if you feel like you've agreed to live under the rules of the Canadian government, then that's understandable. But what if you changed your mind?

So, you have to leave Canada outright? Seems a little unreasonable: a few million people voted in a few hundred people who just made all the rules up. Why should you be beholden to millions, or even hundreds of people who otherwise play no part in your life? Why leave the place you grew up with, and the friends and family you have there, just because you don't want to live under the conditions they implemented?

The reality is that people disagree with gorvernment rules all the time; it's called criminality. And if you commit criminal acts, you can expect the police to catch up with you. If the statute you infringed has no victim, the arresting police officers are the true criminals.



Hence, Cell911 will find a Canadian userbase: I know I'm not the only person out there that considers mandatory child indoctrination camps morally wrong, or forcing people to pay you money to be theft. Boths crimes of which the Canadian government is guilty. Multiple counts.

Yeas I agree. I dont think it will pick up in developed countries. I guess we'll see.

i don't get why would someone choose to call a friend in case of emergency!
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Trust.

I do wish to see this application success however since it received funding in cryptocurrencies.