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Title: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: shane on March 19, 2016, 03:35:39 AM
Earlier this week on Monday, an article was published on a state-owned media outlet in Venezuela, one which summed up bitcoin as a currency used by criminals and terrorist groups. The article was published by Corporación Venezolana de Televisión or VTV, a public network and state-owned broadcaster directly under the purview of the administration of the ministry of Popular Power for Communication and Information, in Venezuela.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/report-two-venezuelans-arrested-mining-bitcoin/


after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: valkir on March 19, 2016, 03:52:24 AM
Because some gov doesnt understand what is Bitcoin and are afraid of it. This is what happen when people are resistant to change.
Hope this get fix.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: SFR10 on March 19, 2016, 04:05:29 AM
They way some governments act upon without even bothering to look at certain technology, in order to see and experience before going against it, makes me sick. For instance the following quote from the article:
Quote from: Article
bitcoin is a currency for cybercriminals and that terrorists and criminals were the “main advocates” of the cryptocurrency.
AFAIK terrorists and criminals use fiat and normal monetary systems as well but since those are under control, it's fine to remain but something that isn't under their control, is forbidden as soon as a criminal use it. They way some of these governments are dishonest towards what they show, is very annoying and all the want is a reason to take over.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: BellaBitBit on March 19, 2016, 04:08:29 AM
If they can't control it then it is easier for them to make it illegal.  Can this stick since it is a global rather than regional currency?


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: nanonymousx on March 19, 2016, 04:19:26 AM
Some government fears that their own people will abandon their currency, fears that their people will choose Bitcoin over their currency. This is sad for people there, I think.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 19, 2016, 04:24:07 AM
Venezuala is a basket case,


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: nostal02 on March 19, 2016, 04:24:48 AM
The fear in bitcoin is what causing them to ban bitcoin,bitcoin used for criminal activity hence all currency is being used for criminal activity.
The government of venezuela doesnt understand bitcoin and doesnt see how it can change the future.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: hasiramasenju on March 19, 2016, 04:27:28 AM
i think because government has considers bitcoins users have very bad reputations and used only for illegal activity that's why some countries very wary for bitcoins users


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: iram66680 on March 19, 2016, 04:41:27 AM
That is why bitcoin won't be accepted globally because of countries around the world fearing it and what it will do to their economies. They don't understand that it will help them and their citizens out of their oppression that they are currently living in. Venezuela economy can't get any worst, so why not just try using it instead of calling it illegal and linking it to terrorism. That is just absurd   >:(


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 19, 2016, 04:44:28 AM
i think because government has considers bitcoins users have very bad reputations and used only for illegal activity that's why some countries very wary for bitcoins users

where is Frank the human comprehensive spellchecker???


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: yenxz on March 19, 2016, 04:52:36 AM
Earlier this week on Monday, an article was published on a state-owned media outlet in Venezuela, one which summed up bitcoin as a currency used by criminals and terrorist groups. The article was published by Corporación Venezolana de Televisión or VTV, a public network and state-owned broadcaster directly under the purview of the administration of the ministry of Popular Power for Communication and Information, in Venezuela.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/report-two-venezuelans-arrested-mining-bitcoin/


after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?
I guess the goverment of venezuela afraid,that miners not gonna pay the taxes,and also afraid bitcoin will used for criminal purpose.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 19, 2016, 04:55:14 AM
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Earlier this week on Monday, an article was published on a state-owned media outlet in Venezuela, one which summed up bitcoin as a currency used by criminals and terrorist groups. The article was published by Corporación Venezolana de Televisión or VTV, a public network and state-owned broadcaster directly under the purview of the administration of the ministry of Popular Power for Communication and Information, in Venezuela.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/report-two-venezuelans-arrested-mining-bitcoin/


after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?
I guess the goverment of venezuela afraid,that miners not gonna pay the taxes,and also afraid bitcoin will used for criminal purpose.

its an old topic and it obvious they caugt two CIA agents


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: rinhunter on March 19, 2016, 07:00:25 AM
I think the government of Venezuela only see bad news about bitcoin, they do not see many positive side about bitcoin.  :-\


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: romero121 on March 19, 2016, 07:13:20 AM
I think the government of Venezuela only see bad news about bitcoin, they do not see many positive side about bitcoin.  :-\

Yeah it might have known only about the bad part. The government might have felt bitcoin use might get increase than their own currency as mining is cheap in their country.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Amph on March 19, 2016, 07:25:39 AM
this explain why despite their good electricity there is no mining there, but i guess you can evade it easily with soem subterrain environment


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: ATguy on March 19, 2016, 07:49:49 AM
after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?

I believe they see Bitcoin mining as issuing Bitcoin currency and Venezuelan citizens are not allowed to issue any currency. Probably one of the protectionism laws to keep monopoly and power, but I dont know of any country which dont have protectionism laws to keep monopoly over certain sector.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: btcltccoins on March 19, 2016, 07:55:19 AM
i think because government has considers bitcoins users have very bad reputations and used only for illegal activity that's why some countries very wary for bitcoins users

Government taking such steps because they have fear that if Bitcoins and other digital currency become popular , it will destroy their banking system and they would have no control over the monetary system. This fear is making Government and institution taking such steps to demote the bitcoins usage, but THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED :).


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 19, 2016, 07:57:27 AM
this explain why despite their good electricity there is no mining there, but i guess you can evade it easily with soem subterrain environment

there is always a workaround for everything. no matter what governments do people find a way to do what they want. and in the end they can't control bitcoin by banning bitcoin mining, only regular people will stay away and criminals would continue what they were doing no matter what has changed!


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: ctlaltdefeat on March 19, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
Earlier this week on Monday, an article was published on a state-owned media outlet in Venezuela, one which summed up bitcoin as a currency used by criminals and terrorist groups. The article was published by Corporación Venezolana de Televisión or VTV, a public network and state-owned broadcaster directly under the purview of the administration of the ministry of Popular Power for Communication and Information, in Venezuela.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/report-two-venezuelans-arrested-mining-bitcoin/


after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?
i never know about this,i just know about what happen in russia,their goverment considering bitcoin activity as crime,and i think venezuela goverment inspired from russia,but i hope other countries not follow them to ban bitcoin activity.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: shane on March 19, 2016, 08:46:45 AM
i never know about this,i just know about what happen in russia,their goverment considering bitcoin activity as crime,and i think venezuela goverment inspired from russia,but i hope other countries not follow them to ban bitcoin activity.

This is Not rusia, it's happen in venezuela. after you read the news you will know the reason.

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I guess the goverment of venezuela afraid,that miners not gonna pay the taxes,and also afraid bitcoin will used for criminal purpose.

its an old topic and it obvious they caugt two CIA agents

it's Old topic but goverment will say "criminal fundraising" is the main reason, after it goverment will says about Tax. it's a good scenario to make bitcoin bad.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: watashi-kokoto on March 19, 2016, 09:40:54 AM
The state is suffering from hyperinflation after sustaining social programmes.
The bolivar note getting cheaper every day.
And since power prices are pegged to their note, it's dirt cheap.
This makes Bitcoin mining extremely profitable.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: richmcrich on March 19, 2016, 10:15:41 AM
I think they just want to have full control of the value of there currency, Therefore having some mined and sold is considered to be in someway manipulating the value of there currency.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: simonloff on March 19, 2016, 11:03:59 AM
it's true that multiple countries like russia, china and venezuela is this report is true are trying to hold back bitcoin and not allow it a chance it there countries.... I think it is because they can't control it.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Amph on March 19, 2016, 11:12:59 AM
it's true that multiple countries like russia, china and venezuela is this report is true are trying to hold back bitcoin and not allow it a chance it there countries.... I think it is because they can't control it.

china has nothing to do with the other country you mentioned, they are allowing miners there, otherwise the current bitcoin network would be fucked, with 60% or more of the hash that would be lost


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: lexuz on March 19, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
i think it would make bitcoin trader or miner get trouble or maybe this is just a trick from their government to take a tax payment for bitcoin trader.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: ashkanb on March 19, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Venezuela is in a massive financial crisis with inflation rate averaging at 159% last year and is expected to grow even more this year.
(i remember reading somewhere that the International Monetary Fund predicted the inflation rate hitting a high of 700% in 2016.)

About a month ago Venezuelan high court approved and executive decree giving the president broader powers to intervene in the country's economy.
The decree, essentially gives the president the power to budget based on greatly underestimated inflation rate.

In a situation like this it's fairly expected to see the government crackdown on whatever mean or technology that they perceive might undermine the national fiat currency; instead of trying to actually solve the country's economic crisis!
On the other hand, people definitely would start looking for alternate means to preserve their assets! bitcoin to the rescue (hopefully.)

But the fact that any government would reserve itself the right to arrest its own people to cover for its own fuck ups pisses me off to no end! >:(





Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: harrymmmm on March 19, 2016, 01:48:20 PM
We're in the 'fight' phase of bitcoin adoption.

I think we'll see a lot more of this as the legacy systems are forced to change from covert to overt operations against bitcoin.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Raimonn on March 19, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
Venezuela don't want any economic system that they can't control. They want to control economic system, newspapers, tv ...


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 19, 2016, 02:35:22 PM
Earlier this week on Monday, an article was published on a state-owned media outlet in Venezuela, one which summed up bitcoin as a currency used by criminals and terrorist groups. The article was published by Corporación Venezolana de Televisión or VTV, a public network and state-owned broadcaster directly under the purview of the administration of the ministry of Popular Power for Communication and Information, in Venezuela.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/report-two-venezuelans-arrested-mining-bitcoin/


after i read this news. im confusion, why mining bitcoin is illegal activity..?
we all know,venezuela still have economic crissis,someone already post about venezuela currency that drown so deep,and its normal if venezuela goverment ban or prevent people to mining bitcoin,its will make unstabilize condition on venezuela.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: 5trade on March 20, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
The exchange of currency is illegal unless you are a registered company!  Exchanging digit "currency" with fiat "currency" is illegal based on their currency exchange control laws.  You can always buy and sell digital goods for bolivar.  Heck you can even buy mining contracts.  Just dont exchange currency   ;D :D ;)


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Joshua kingpin on March 20, 2016, 09:32:20 PM
So, drugs are legal in Venezuela, but bitcoin is illegal?  :o


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 20, 2016, 09:36:08 PM
So, drugs are legal in Venezuela, but bitcoin is illegal?  :o

its the same everywhere

look at Uber, every jurastiction says

illeagal then holds out hand for a bag of

cash errb umm Bitcoins


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: knowhow on March 20, 2016, 11:43:57 PM
Instead of they be against bitcoin they should support as it would bring new and heavy investments at Venezuela ,or atleast the government could start mine bitcoins to stop the inflation unreal.I remember someone here with a wharehouse were offering the space and trying to get partners to enter with machines or capital to start the adventure,that were with the bitcoins at 200-250 dollars;


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: s1lverbox on March 20, 2016, 11:52:55 PM
So typical for gov which cannot controll something to call it dangerous/used by terrorist/gangsters.

We all bitcoin miners/users/traders are crimininal in venezuela. I know where i wont go for my holiday with my bitcoins. ;D


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Zeke2345 on March 21, 2016, 07:47:20 PM
Some of these South American countries are holding on to power by the skin of their cheeks,think clamping down on anything different is just a natural process for them to protect self interests. There are still active death squads in some parts so limiting bitcoin and making it a crime is no shocker.
Imagine if the people could gain freedom in some of these places from the gong show of government,think if one Country was to go full hog it would spread like wild fire. This has to be the place we make the next big push for bitcoin,really believe this the more I look into the dynamics.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: BTCBinary on March 21, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
yeah, it seems that Venezuela is waging war on bitcoin. The country is trying to impose capital controls, so they naturally will do all they can against bitcoin.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: edinar-currency88 on April 04, 2016, 07:09:46 AM
perhaps the authorities fear that many things will spiral out of control


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Slark on April 04, 2016, 07:26:55 AM
This news only shows us how foolish some people in power are. If you live in some some country with stupid governments you are basically fucked.
In case you didn't know there is massive economic crisis in Venezuela right now. Government is so desperate that they even regulate access to electricity, food, necessities etc.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/01/in-venezuela-the-lights-are-going-out/ (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/01/in-venezuela-the-lights-are-going-out/)


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 04, 2016, 07:28:27 AM
It is purely a political decision to protect their own currency < Bolivar > and their reputation. They cannot control their finances and wants to shift the blame to other entities that they have no control over. Governments all over the world, manipulate their own currencies and economy to make them look more solvent than they are.

Investors and developers will not invest in a country, if it is on the brink of a collapse and all indications are that Venezuela is not very far from a economic collapse. The government of Venezuela cannot stop Capital fleeing from their country, if people use Bitcoin. They use their state owned media to fool their own citizens into thinking Bitcoin is bad.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: GoldSeal on May 09, 2016, 09:02:28 AM
It probably has less to do with bitcoin being used by criminals and more to do with the fact that electricity in venezuela is free and their economy is collapsing.


Title: Re: mining BItcoin is illegal activity in Venezuela....?
Post by: dearbesz on June 18, 2016, 11:23:15 AM
not all countries nowadays are adopting Bitcoins.
as far as i know there are few country only adopting the system of system of this
digital currency. but in other country there not adopting it because they dont get
the point of what bitcoin is.