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Title: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC
Post by: scyth3 on February 01, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
I would like to purchase an Avalon ASIC. I am located in Philly. Thanks


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: server on February 01, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
I would like to purchase an Avalon ASIC within the next 2 weeks. I am offering to pay $10,000 to anyone who has one in-hand within next 2 weeks. I am located in Philly. Thanks

No problem, I prefer bitcoin over $, you first :)


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: segabtc on February 01, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
Holy F#$%!!!!!


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on February 01, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
I was actually thinking with a transaction like this, we should meet in person at a safe location in a bank or something. I am willing to travel, if you can prove you have one.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: server on February 01, 2013, 04:10:45 PM
I was actually thinking with a transaction like this, we should meet in person at a safe location in a bank or something. I am willing to travel, if you can proof you have one.

Not possible, I'm from Europe.

Can only work like this: you pay $10.000 in bitcoin and you receive one Avalon by DHL.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on February 01, 2013, 04:17:36 PM
I was actually thinking with a transaction like this, we should meet in person at a safe location in a bank or something. I am willing to travel, if you can proof you have one.

Not possible, I'm from Europe.

Can only work like this: you pay $10.000 in bitcoin and you receive one Avalon by DHL.

Stop busting my balls.  :D 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: server on February 01, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
I was actually thinking with a transaction like this, we should meet in person at a safe location in a bank or something. I am willing to travel, if you can proof you have one.

Not possible, I'm from Europe.

Can only work like this: you pay $10.000 in bitcoin and you receive one Avalon by DHL.

Stop busting my balls.  :D 

Oh ok, I never get used to American bluff...  ;)


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: allinvain on February 02, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
Transaction would go something like this:

1) Buyer shows up
2) Seller shows up
3) Both exchange handshakes and oddly suspicious looks
4) Buyer demands to see the hardware
5) Seller presents hardware
6) Seller gets a baseball bat to the head when he least suspects it
7) "Buyer" and accomplice walk away
8) Profit!

 :P

/trolling


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: zvs on February 03, 2013, 12:34:20 AM
Transaction would go something like this:

1) Buyer shows up
2) Seller shows up
3) Both exchange handshakes and oddly suspicious looks
4) Buyer demands to see the hardware
5) Seller presents hardware
6) Seller gets a baseball bat to the head when he least suspects it
7) "Buyer" and accomplice walk away
8) Profit!

 :P

/trolling


haha

I did a face-to-face transaction w/ $2050 cash. 

I never really thought about it until someone else mentioned 'wtf, you're meeting a stranger w/ $2050 in cash in your wallet?'... =/

anyway, for a deal such as this, you'd probably want to go through a broker, eh?


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: crashoveride54902 on February 03, 2013, 03:53:02 AM
I would like to purchase an Avalon ASIC within the next 2 weeks. I am offering to pay $10,000 to anyone who has one in-hand within next 2 weeks. I am located in Philly. Thanks

sheesh with that kinda cash...why not just invest it all in btc and invest in btc long?


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: polrpaul on February 03, 2013, 04:37:11 AM

option: find another 20K and invest in a BFL MiniRig @ 1500 GH/s.

comparatively, your 10K investment fetches you a third of a MiniRig (or 500GH/s) vs. Avalon's 66 GH/s... but it's your cash..


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: bcpokey on February 03, 2013, 08:52:28 PM

option: find another 20K and invest in a BFL MiniRig @ 1500 GH/s.

comparatively, your 10K investment fetches you a third of a MiniRig (or 500GH/s) vs. Avalon's 66 GH/s... but it's your cash..

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ProfMac on February 05, 2013, 09:20:04 AM
Transaction would go something like this:

1) Buyer shows up
2) Seller shows up
3) Both exchange handshakes and oddly suspicious looks
4) Buyer demands to see the hardware
5) Seller presents hardware
6) Seller gets a baseball bat to the head when he least suspects it
7) "Buyer" and accomplice walk away
8) Profit!

 :P

/trolling


http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/men-convicted-in-sugars-waitress-robbery-get-sti-1/nRsfL/

These guys went hunting with bats several times a week.



Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: allinvain on February 05, 2013, 02:18:08 PM
Wow that's some crazy shit. This world is full of scumbags though so to minimize risk it would be best to conduct this exchange in a public coffee shop (when there a lot of people) and also to bring a friend or two.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: John (John K.) on February 05, 2013, 03:34:14 PM
I think I might have stickied this in a hurry while I was on mobile.  :-\
Unstickied.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on February 19, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
No one has an Avalon ASIC out there? Still interested for now.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: abracadabra on February 19, 2013, 11:55:52 PM
No one has an Avalon ASIC out there? Still interested for now.

No one that would actually want to sell it ;)


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Jaw3bmasters on February 20, 2013, 12:15:09 AM
No one has an Avalon ASIC out there? Still interested for now.

Contact one of the ASIC manufacturers and ask to buy one of the testers.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on February 20, 2013, 05:28:19 AM

No one that would actually want to sell it ;)

Are you trying to hint you have one? Interested in selling it? ;D


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: sounds on February 22, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
No, I think he's trying to explain that the people who have one are mining like crazy right now and making tons of BTC.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: alexeft on February 23, 2013, 11:41:22 AM

option: find another 20K and invest in a BFL MiniRig @ 1500 GH/s.

comparatively, your 10K investment fetches you a third of a MiniRig (or 500GH/s) vs. Avalon's 66 GH/s... but it's your cash..

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

That's wise. Perhaps he'd better buy some GPus  ;D


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 07, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
Bump, still interested.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 07, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
Bump, still interested.


I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 07, 2013, 07:28:58 PM

I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.


Well, I have not gotten any real offers. I think that is due to the fact that no one really has one yet. My offer still stands at $10,000 for anyone that might be interested. 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 07, 2013, 08:24:41 PM

I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.


Well, I have not gotten any real offers. I think that is due to the fact that no one really has one yet. My offer still stands at $10,000 for anyone that might be interested. 

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.



Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 07, 2013, 10:54:52 PM

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.



The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Littleshop on March 07, 2013, 11:02:21 PM

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.



The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?

Well in two weeks an IN HAND A.A. will produce $4400.  In two more weeks it might do $3500.  Two weeks after that maybe $2500.  You are only offering around six weeks revenue.  Most people are going to want more then that.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 07, 2013, 11:55:47 PM

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.



The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?

Well in two weeks an IN HAND A.A. will produce $4400.  In two more weeks it might do $3500.  Two weeks after that maybe $2500.  You are only offering around six weeks revenue.  Most people are going to want more then that.

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 08, 2013, 02:27:17 AM
And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 08, 2013, 04:52:04 AM
And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.


The problem is the most people believe in the scenario I support. 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Littleshop on March 08, 2013, 05:11:40 AM
And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.


It might be, but you are talking about an IN HAND unit.  We know what the difficulty is now and we can estimate reasonably accurately what it is in the next cycle. 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 08, 2013, 06:39:21 AM
And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.


It might be, but you are talking about an IN HAND unit.  We know what the difficulty is now and we can estimate reasonably accurately what it is in the next cycle. 

^^^^^  This


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 08, 2013, 04:03:28 PM
Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell. ;D


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ironcross360 on March 08, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
Well Ill go to a chineese manufacterer and sell you a fake Avalon :D LOL


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ProfMac on March 08, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell. ;D

Bitcoin is a bit of an ugly audience to play to.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ProfMac on March 08, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell. ;D

I don't know if this thread might interest you.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148101.msg0#new


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 08, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell. ;D

I don't know if this thread might interest you.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148101.msg0#new


I don't think he is selling, just a feeler. Thanks for your help.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 08, 2013, 08:05:50 PM
Honestly, I want you to get what your looking for.   Its just with even the conservative calculations I have done.  $10,000 is not a realistic offer.  I would match and increase this offer right now, just to put it to fact. 


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Bogart on March 10, 2013, 01:21:27 AM
In theory, I will have an Avalon in-hand next week.

If it were purely a business decision, I might offer to sell it the same day for $25,000.

But emotionally, I really want my Avalon.  I don't want to just sell it right away for fiat.  I took the gamble of ordering it almost 6 months ago, and paid 114 BTC for it.  To sell it now for sure and easy money would be a cop-out.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 13, 2013, 11:12:47 PM
Bump


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: MKEGuy on March 14, 2013, 12:51:54 AM
There is still value in having that $25k right up front, all at once.  Money makes money.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: zvs on March 15, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
if I had one and actually believed that bitcoin prices would continue to increase, I'd probably try to get you up to ~15k, then use that 15K to purchase bitcoins.  the second option would be to reinvest that 15k in even more ASICs.

i don't think they're going to keep going up, but apparently some other ppl in this thread do.  so, what's so bad about the offer?


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: luke.watson on March 16, 2013, 12:28:46 AM
If you're offering 10k plus for one I'm going to assume this is most likely a scam

http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ad/3601_Avalon_ASIC_Bitcoin_Miner__65_Ghs_Speed_Guaranteed/ (http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ad/3601_Avalon_ASIC_Bitcoin_Miner__65_Ghs_Speed_Guaranteed/)

Me and my brother were considering purchasing one off him - using paypal for added security but now I'm thinking probably not the best idea, they did seem a tad cheap


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 16, 2013, 12:54:47 AM
If you're offering 10k plus for one I'm going to assume this is most likely a scam

http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ad/3601_Avalon_ASIC_Bitcoin_Miner__65_Ghs_Speed_Guaranteed/ (http://www.bitcoinclassifieds.net/ad/3601_Avalon_ASIC_Bitcoin_Miner__65_Ghs_Speed_Guaranteed/)

Me and my brother were considering purchasing one off him - using paypal for added security but now I'm thinking probably not the best idea, they did seem a tad cheap

I think those are a scam. Those pictures aren't even their unit. Can anyone confirm that ad is a scam or not?

Edit: nvm just saw the price, mega scam.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 17, 2013, 04:31:43 AM
Cash for ASIC, bump


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Dalkore on March 18, 2013, 04:15:54 AM
Cash for ASIC, bump

$30,000


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 18, 2013, 02:03:44 PM

Sorry, but that it out of my budget. Thanks for the offer.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Syke on March 20, 2013, 06:29:28 PM

It'll take an Avalon about 2 months to break even at that price at the current difficulty. Sounds like a fair price.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: cedivad on March 20, 2013, 06:30:35 PM
This thread is amazing...


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Noogsy on March 21, 2013, 12:20:02 AM
This thread is amazing...

+1!

*hands out popcorn*


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Bogart on March 21, 2013, 04:15:29 AM
A batch 2 pre-order sold for $20.6k:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181105056846


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Jrock on March 21, 2013, 05:07:00 AM
A batch 2 pre-order sold for $20.6k:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181105056846


Just cause it finished doesn't mean it's going to be paid for. I actually bid 17k on that with no plan on paying for it just to see if someone was crazy enough to go higher.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: scyth3 on March 21, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
I think we have another scammer, Evan. Offered me an Avalon but chickened out when I asked for time stamped pictures. He has a good amount of posts too.

Cash for ASIC, OBO


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: Uncle Scrooge on March 21, 2013, 03:38:49 PM
So true. On PS3 launch day there were auctions for well over $20K. I doubt any of those were completed.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ProfMac on March 21, 2013, 09:38:07 PM
A batch 2 pre-order sold for $20.6k:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181105056846


Just cause it finished doesn't mean it's going to be paid for. I actually bid 17k on that with no plan on paying for it just to see if someone was crazy enough to go higher.

You are telling the whole bitcoin community that you deliberately violated the eBay rules, good auction etiquette, and were willing to greatly inconvenience the seller and anyone who would view the auction results.  That's pretty crummy.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: FreedomCoin on March 21, 2013, 11:10:12 PM
A batch 2 pre-order sold for $20.6k:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181105056846


Just cause it finished doesn't mean it's going to be paid for. I actually bid 17k on that with no plan on paying for it just to see if someone was crazy enough to go higher.

You are telling the whole bitcoin community that you deliberately violated the eBay rules, good auction etiquette, and were willing to greatly inconvenience the seller and anyone who would view the auction results.  That's pretty crummy.


+1


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: crashoveride54902 on March 21, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
search on ebay for avalon asic...there is like 5-6 auctions going for preorders lol


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: ProfMac on March 22, 2013, 12:51:37 AM
search on ebay for avalon asic...there is like 5-6 auctions going for preorders lol

Here is a very strange eBay item (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/261188628637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd00e309d).


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon Asic
Post by: silverston on March 22, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
search on ebay for avalon asic...there is like 5-6 auctions going for preorders lol

Here is a very strange eBay item (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/261188628637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd00e309d).
anything strange ... on the third picture  BFL single fpga


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: scyth3 on March 27, 2013, 08:39:40 PM
Bump, would like to increase my offer to $20,000. Thanks


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: faisalp on March 27, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
I'll match that...(Sorry scyth :) )


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: scyth3 on March 27, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
I'll match that...(Sorry scyth :) )

You got yours already, go away :P


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: TheJamesFund on March 28, 2013, 10:34:37 AM
Some are scams on eBay, but for a fact, one is very legit and real.


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: ssateneth on March 28, 2013, 11:58:07 AM
Some are scams on eBay, but for a fact, one is very legit and real.

Would you mind pointing out the real one?


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: ProfMac on March 28, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
Some are scams on eBay, but for a fact, one is very legit and real.

Would you mind pointing out the real one?

Exposure to the bitcoin community causes many people to begin using the word "scam" to mean "any deal where I don't already have the profit in my own pocket."


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC for $20K
Post by: erschiessen on March 29, 2013, 01:32:44 PM
I would like to purchase an Avalon ASIC. I am offering to pay $20,000 to anyone who has one in-hand. I am located in Philly. Thanks
If you find too many Avalons to buy, let me know, please.



Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC
Post by: scyth3 on April 08, 2013, 06:48:08 PM
Bump, send me some offers. Thanks


Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC
Post by: ProfMac on April 08, 2013, 07:26:53 PM
Bump, send me some offers. Thanks

You are welcome to bid 0.8 BTC or more for a 1% share before delivery in my batch #2 machine as detailed in the link in my signature.

You offer is currently worth $20,000 * 0.01 / 189.68 (USD/BTC) -> 1.054407 BTC



Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC
Post by: scyth3 on April 09, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
Bump, send me some offers. Thanks

You are welcome to bid 0.8 BTC or more for a 1% share before delivery in my batch #2 machine as detailed in the link in my signature.

You offer is currently worth $20,000 * 0.01 / 189.68 (USD/BTC) -> 1.054407 BTC



Thanks for your offer. I will look more into it.



Title: Re: WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC
Post by: scyth3 on April 11, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
bump