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Hi all

i'm looking on Ether currency, its look nice but are you guys think this over 12-24 mounth wil riase a huge price like Bitcoin hase done, or you think its more stable?

imho it's risky investment at this point. I wish I had bought when it was first launched.

i have buy for like 150$ and hope its get higer at the point, :) no risk, no win :P

Just look at the 1w chart. This is about to fall the fuck over into ruined families territory.

Now quite difficult to predict for a long time.
I hope and believe that the coin shoot steeper Bitcoin

ETH was good once a while ago. now it seems to me like a super risky investment and the rise looks like dead cat bounce to me

also the volume at this price is half of what it was before at the same price.

This reaches highest high and will fall down, probably when LISK starts to trade.
Don't get me wrong i'm not supporter of LISK, just saying all these bitcoins trapped in ETH will be
released and ready for new pump this is certain.

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

For you the best was to buy gold with the money. You just do not lose money)))  The rest will be very difficult to guess.

No one knows what is going to happen with Ether. It may turn out to be another altcoin pump and dump. To prove it has legs price must increase above the all time high set on March 12. That will catch the attention of traders no doubt. Anyone buying Ether right now is taking a rather large chance they will take a loss. There is no rush to buy, wait until the all time high is taken out then buy on a price pullback. Be smart, copy what the pros do for a living.

The volume that came into Ethereum was HUGE. IMO this is semi-bigger money moving in.
Since the BTC price didn't reflect the Ethereum rise, I'm guessing it's holders of BTC buying in but those holders can be some companies in the space that bought BTC offline, or mined, etc.
Not sure what is going on. Logically I'd say the price can't be sustained at these levels but if the demand is there (and it is holding a while now), it can stay, even go up.

Understand this space is new and TINY. For all we know big money is moving in and buying up Ether cause they know something we don't...

I do not expect a big price rise. Ethereum is too over hyped at the moment and do not forget that there are mined around 36,000 new Ether each day.

I think when bitcoin breaks up soon eth will be heavily dumped and will hardly be discussed/forgotten about shortly after. I don't see it riding the wave with bitcoin like other actual cryptocurrencies like ltc, nmc, xmr, xpm etc.

Btc looks poised to break up and out of the daily triangle.
But what if the loss of confidence makes it break down?
And the block halving follows, could be a blood bath.
Not saying it kills BTC, just so early in the game.

ETH is cheap right now and should be seen as a long term investment. Each day there are more and more new devs jumping into the Ethereum Eco system to develop DAO and DAPPS. And let's not forget the banking industries great interest in ETH.

eth is buggy incomplete software with no real world use. Why does this deserve a value of $12?? I think that eth is promising but for the current stage of development the price is to high. For this early stage a price of $1 - $2 would be more reasonable. Even if i wanted to try ether i would not pay $12 for a single coin thats just a deal breaker.

The entire Crypto space is new and buggy. You are in a sense doing the same as those who criticized the internet back in the day because there were not many websites and the post worked fine for them.
To value companies and these technologies now requires taking a chance and a lot of foresight.
If you want to wait for profits, p/e ratios, etc. you will be looking at the rocket leaving Earth orbit.

i think it remain there for a while now, don't expect another increaase don't believe in those thats ay it will touch bitcoin or similar bullshit, i would not invest now

Don't let anyone fool you - Ethereum isn't going anywhere and will be around for along time.

I wouldn't be surprised if it shot up to $25+.

Well!? We will see after halving who will survive BTC attack!
I believe this will be really good test of loyalty to those coins, and everybody will learn some lessons.
 I hope people won't hate BTC because of this. ::)

BTC price will go down after halving.Why?Well for months people invest in btc to get some profit after halving,but that money has to come from somewhere right?Well thing is,everyone knows about halving so everyone already invested in it,therefore the price already is where its supposed to be after halving.So after that happens it will go down,probably not much,but it will.

Yes this is true but i expecting another pump good one, bacaus this is the way how they work (whales). And soon after big dump, monetization. Only way to draw more people is to create pump.. This is done so many times.

I do not believe that.First,everyone knows bitcoin in the crypto world,and to draw new people into crypto world is almost impossible,i mean who wanted to get in,already did (from outside crypto world or these that moved away from altcoins).And bitcoin had its maximum,it wont reach ~1000$ anymore,therefore investing in it for profit would be extremely risky,theres no point in that.I mean,atm is around ~400$,and its more plausible to go back to 200$ than up to 800$,at this price you would have like ~50% chance of gaining any profit.And after the halving people will realise the boom is not happening and they ll sell since it will be risky.
And you say whales will pump to get more users into bitcoin?Bitcoin is risky to pump, and the chance of getting a good profit by getting into it are so small its not worth it,people learned from past experiences,its not 2013 when nobody knew the upper limit,but now as they do,they wont do the same mystake again (what are the chance of btc going over 1k $ again,0.1% ?)

All this is because people don't use bitcoin as money,but as speculative investment. This is it.
Main cause for slow adoption and fear of accepting bitcoin if you can loose money in matter of minutes. Nobody wants to get involved in something at the top, and when panic start many will be burned and they will abandon this idea (bitcoin).

Despite eveyrhing said here, the price has been quite stable since the dump that occured after the price reached the ATH of 0,0399BTC/ETH.

hmm.
i have to agree with you. i think ETH is not gonna fall down hard just yet but also i think LISK has a high possibility of success and we might even see another big market cap out of it so soon.

It is better that way , then the shit can get back to crazy normal when its all done. the extra crazy shit going on is too much

Ethereum would reach like $35 in upcoming weeks. I am guessing that halving of bitcoins will shoot up not only the bitcoin's own value, but also the value of other cryptocurrencies.

Maybe it's saving time right now. :P

If there is no new money for the digital coins, both Bitcoin and Ethereum will not rise.

I already see support of ETH weakens, and hype don't have that strength as before.preparing for the next ride, but this time ETH is not invited. I believe we could see LISK this time  taking the lead. Pull your conclusions about what will happen with price.

ETH is really down as its investor is having doubts where would this lead them,with lisk is at hand they are changing boats.

The price is still higher than a few months ago. I think the price is consolidating at the moment.

the price is showing a downtrend

its going down , the down trend if u look at the graphs only point one way.

If you look at 4 hour chart, it is going down, if you look at the day chart, the trend is still up.

ETH is getting riskier by the day.

one of these days the downtrend is going to keep going down and never come back up

Dunno....

Granted that the "projections" from the beginning of '14 look ridiculous now, but Bitcoin went though an outright bubble that was kicked off by panic buying after the Cyprus "bail-in." Before that bubble kicked off, it sold at about $100. That level is well below Bitcoin's 2015 post-bubble low. 

True, adoption is about where Usenet adoption was at ~1990 because most folks find it the least convenient method to transact. But there are ordinary use cases where Bitcoin makes sense, like sending money over the border to (say) relatives. If The Donald wins the U.S. Presidency, I'm sure a lot of Bitcoin evangelizers will take up Spanish. ;)

We really don't know what the maximum sustainable price is. It could be $1000, it could be more. For what it's worth, "Arpanet" was difficult to use in 1990 too.

and here comes the fall lol. wonder if it will reach 7 :)

Actually, Polo's %-change column is showing a lot of red right now. Lots of BTC are being taken off the table.

If Ether retests .02 I might take a small position for a short term trade. I would not load up until the all time high is taken out.

Does someone know when will lisk be added to exchanges?
This will be probably best time for exiting ETH, and jumping on the next pump.

I will also buy a lot of Ethereum if the price goes below 0.02. The price will rise in the long term, I think.

The price is around 0.025 now. So it is not far away from 0.02. But the volume is quite low at the moment.

Just a few days past, the price is 0.022 now. It seems the price is in the correction stage. Hope it will be above 0.018.

Bitcoin hasn't broken out of anywhere yet.  Still just vacillating on the edge of 420.

Damn, shouldn't you be legendary by now?

ETH will go down for a long time from this point.
I would look for something else.

If the Eth goes down here to $5 and consolidate there, it is good for the future application of the platform.

ETH will carry on going down becuase people want to buy LISK as ETH is a very long project and also people want to invest in other ICO where they can make much more money than keeping their money frozen in a long project

You can always trade the Etereum coins with bitcoin. Lisk has short history. Etheruem has been tested.

I might trade the Lisk very briefly. But that is too risky. As you said, it has not been tested by time.

The Ether price has dropped 50% from the peak. Do you think the price will drop further to say, $5?

Doubtful...I haven't seen it go below $7 in that time, and it's now holding its own in fiat terms.

the short history of an altcoin never stops it from being a success, LISK is a good project and has already attracted a lot of attention from the altcoin investors. so i wouldn't be surprised if it had a good rising price by the time of release over a month.

If you are talking for long term investment like for about 12 to 24 moneths then I will say yes it will make us to earn some profit and will rise in value much high like bitcoin, but now at this time I think we should have to throw it to the market so as its price go down to $1 very sooner, and definitely it will reach to $1 so wait for that moment.

Price is from a few days under 0.02 and I think if you have bought it, thats all to be seen if you will make profit or not, as the price of it seems stalled right now as we speak, it is in the range of 0.017-0.0185 most of the time during last days. With altcoins its very difficult to make profit as they are usually pump and dump coins, although ether has some potential, but not the one it fanboys are giving the hype.

In the long term it will probably rise but it's always a gamble as to when one should buy.  If this is the bottom and you buy now then great but if it continues to fall then you will feel disappointed that you bought too early.  That's always the quandry in crypto!  For that reason I normally set incremental buys at different price points, that way you buy at a spread of prices and reduce the risk of buying too soon at too high a price.

New article on Coindesk: UK Government Awards £248k for Ethereum Prototype : http://www.coindesk.com/uk-government-awards-250000-develop-cross-border-blockchain-prototype/ (http://www.coindesk.com/uk-government-awards-250000-develop-cross-border-blockchain-prototype/)

Thanks for that. It confirms what I've already guessed: the Ethereum Foundation is pivoting away from the grassroots and is now flogging Ethereum to startups. 'Tis a new world...

Vitalikhisballs dumped his eth to buy pimple creme and to feed his goat that he bangs

Well at least Vitalik has a sense of humour : https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/726034602607800320 (https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/726034602607800320)

So any guesses as to how low it will go?  I suspect we will continue to see falls until at least 0.01 - of course now I've said that it will probably shoot up to 0.04!

  ::)

I wouldnt bet that  ;D
probably going down til, at least, 0.013.

It could happen. Now bitcoin interest and many altcoin are increased. you have to be patient to see a rise in the exchange.

Looks like my prediction curse struck again.  It's going up now!

well, it is likely to happen, but perhaps the worst is the price reaches the price ETH 0.01 BTC

LOL,
Can you tell me your investments this moment? so i can go the opposite way  ;D it happened just like you said 

Price rise is due to slock.it/DAO ICO.  You can only buy it with ETH.  There's no mystery here.

I see. When the ICO will finish? When it finishes, will the Ethereum price drop back? It seems Ethereum is also a currency now.

28 day ICO that started today.  the last day will be glorious for hodlers and terrifying for FOMO'ers

Seen the huge price bump of Ethereum today made me realize that one cannot truly predict anything with Cryptos, lol.
A lot of people said that the DAO launch wouldn't affect the price of Ether, this couple of hours negated that prediction.

I saw the thread here about the DAO sale on bittrex, and it's what prompted me to action, and I imagine many others in roughly the same time frame.

Waiting on that fucking 2 confirmations on BTC deposits while ETH is rocketing = fuck me

Guys I've got a lovely warm feeling in my pants.

Do not be panic. The Ethereum price will rise in the medium term. It might drop further to around 0.015.

I know from experience that something that can't go up must go down. I don't know why people must take this so hard, we already have many better projects based on ETH. And everybody just waiting another one..

I suspect the current pump will last until the end of the DAO sale then there's a high probability it will start to fall again until the next Ether innovation (pyramid scheme) when it will undoubtably pump again.

No pump will happen for ethereum because more people are converting again into bitcoin and they know ethereum will decrease more after block halivng..

Could be more shenanigans. Does anyone have a link to somewhere that tells how much DAO is being sold?

https://daohub.org

12.85 million dollars/1.31 million ether right now.

1.4 million Eth now. That is almost 2% of existing Etheruem in circulation. So a good proportion of Etheruem is locked up.

Nearly 15 million dollars (1.54m in ETHER) for DAO now and 24 days to go. 

Ethereum raised 18.5 million total and by the time they exchanged their bitcoins it was a lot less (in dollars). 

Whatever you think of the long term or technical aspects of DAO it's inevitably going to be huge and the hype is only going to keep increasing as the deadline for the sale approaches.  FOMO is gong to create a massive amount of hysteria about this particularly once the mainstream media cotton on to it. 

I think the final figure could easily be double what it is now.  That can only be good both for those investing in the DAO and the value of ether (due to the significant number being removed from circulation).

OK so DAO has now surpassed what Ether raised and it's only been six days.

Currently 1.99 million ETHER worth approx $19.57 million dollars.  Still 22 days to go.

The DAO and Slockit good for ETH price. Time to jump on the train folks as it'll be leaving shortly.

Hmm 2.44 million ETHER removed from the market and the price is going down?  Doesn't make sense.

The Etheruem price has risen too much in the last 5 months. So even with 2.5 million few Eth, the price is still not up.

It is up and way to high for me to buy right now. Just look how fast it went from 15 to 7 dollar. now almost back at then.
WHen it is around 3 dollar i will buy back.

Buying and accumulating for medium and long term . Buying everyday small amounts = whatever the price is

I think this is not the time to buy a ethereum even small amount.. because the price of ethereum right now is very high,. better to wait in few weeks if the price is decrease even in 0.015..

If the 2.44 mm were sent from HODLers, it does make sense.

When will Ether blocksize be half? :) bitcoin are around 10-12 weeks, but when are Ether ? :)

It won't.  There is no block halving like Bitcoin although this may change in the future.

The original plan of the Etheruem is to issue fixed number of coins (18 million) each year. The relative inflation will be lower in the future.

but over time its takeing longer and longer time to find the reward inside the block?

they will have directly a pos system in few months, so any mining will be useless, i don't know if the block reward will be lower while we wait for the pos time

whats happen when the pos are a part of Ether system? and why are mining useless soe?

By this time next year, if the Etheruem is the only profitable option for miners, then when it converts to PoS, the GPU price will crash.

Okay somthing here i'm not udnerstanding, if its not profitable to mining somthing, will the coin die? how i understanding it is mining will verfiy blocks and trancactions, and no miners no verfiy? somthing i do not understand here?

If the coin is not profitable to mine for somebody, other people will mine it profitably. Bitcoin is one example.

hmm not sure i understand what you mean :/

Well now it's just approacing 10 dollars again.

The price is rising again. It survived many dump recently. I am thinking of buying some just in case it is pumped again.

I'm putting all of mine into the DAO.  There is virtually zero risk of losing ether this way (they can always be exchanged back) and with the amount of funds going in to the DAO and the hype surrounding it there is likely to be a monumental pump when the tokens are finally released. 

Also since the tokens will be being sold at a rate of 1.5 ether : 100 DAO tokens at the end of the sale, we can comfortably take this as the base price for the tokens.  For those that bought in early that means an instant x 1.5 in value.  This is before even taking into consideration the massive business potential for the first DAO/Slockit and the potential money raised - the minimum proposal is that the DAO gets 1% of all transactions. 

So overall I don't see anything to be gained by not converting all my ether to DAO.  If something completely amazing and unexpected does happen that I desperately need ether for (which is highly unlikely but lets just imagine it does), I can simply sell a few of my DAO after 28th May and get some ether, or bitcoin or whatever else for that matter.

That's a load of bullshit.  Definitely not guaranteed there will be any miners for these shitcoins in the future.   And there probably won't.   

If the business goes well, you can make at least 50% profit by buying the token early. but if it is not well, you will lose more.

Not really I'm talking about short term profits.  It will be ages before the business launches.  You are more likely to make money by converting all your Ether to DAO tokens now and cashing some of them out during the likely pump when trading starts.  There will always be people who missed out on the ICO or heard about it too late and FOMO will mean that they are desperate to buy at whatever price when the tokens first hit the exchanges.  That combined with the enormous hype and huge whale investments is almost certain to cause a huge initial pump.  It's not guaranteed but it as close as you get with crypto - it is always a gamble obviously but this is less of a gamble than most.

Hmmm, what is DOA Token? :) can you explain it for me?

Go to daohub.org. You have less than 3 days till the first price rise.

Find out more here: https://daohub.org/ (https://daohub.org/)

I've also put some instructions for Bittrex purchasing here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1465376.msg14788865#msg14788865 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1465376.msg14788865#msg14788865)

Latest update regarding DAO:

DAO at $44.13m (approx) - 4.46m ETHER right now .

4.46m ETHER is roughly 5.6% of the current estimated supply.

dam nice

Looks like there's a possibility that it may reach less than $100m funding at the end of the DAO crowdsale.   

That would be incredible. I'm actually surprised by the lack of press this has been getting. Maybe having nearly $100m will make it impossible for publications to ignore.

do you think that dao will increase the price of etheruem? maybe it's a good time to buy some before it will be released? after mining end the price should increase in theory, what do you think?

The DAO projects use Ethereum to run. Not only that but by the DAO locking in x% of total ETH limits the market supply of Ethereum for others to buy. If demand increases because of the first sentence then you can see what will happen to the price.

$3 will be a nice entry price this summer.

Yes that's weird.  These days the major news organisations tend to be falling over themselves to talk about blockchain news.  I've tried tweeting BBC Tech news a few times with no result (not that I really expected anything).

If that is the case, i will sell all my Ethereum and buy bitcoin. But I think it will probably not happen.

What did you tweet? In my experience BBC News tech journalists are not the brightest LED display. Hence why they got fooled a couple of weeks ago with the clown claiming he was Satoshi.

I tweeted "The DAO has raised over $50m & you still aren't covering the biggest development in Blockchain tech https://t.co/4HfZ9FTEzT" - the link is to the DAOhub website.  I might give a try tweeting Ars Technica tomorrow instead.

Wow the DAO is at $65m now.  It really could hit $100m.

If it hits $100 million, it will be the largest crowd funding ever. I am very interested in seeing the results.

I think the interest will slow however as the price begins to hike.

I doubt it.  It's already risen up to $75m since I last posted (that's about 9% of all ETHER).  The higher it goes the greater the buzz and the more likely it is to rise further.

That could be virtuous cycle. More people will be attracted by the IPO and the price will rise further.

Well DAO at $82m now.  10% ETHER surpassed.  Anyone think we can hit $100m before the 10 hour price deadline?

As a counter point, the initial investors stand to benefit if more people buy in on the second half of the sale. There are around 12k accounts invested so far - I think the hype over the next couple weeks will be pretty big as those folks start actively working to spread the word.

In the early days, I thought the DAO would easily hit the 2nd spot on the crowdfunding comparison wiki (that is posted everywhere so I won't again) which would mean it had raised over $25 million, but I thought it would have a hard time surpassing the $110 million first place spot. However, seeing the large influx of cash during the past 24 hours, I think that goal is now obtainable. Although I will admit I do not really think the DAO belongs on the crowdfunding list to begin with, even though it makes an interesting comparison it is not really crowdfunded in the strictest sense, but more of an investment.

I think the interest in this whole concept is genuine, but like bitcoin, has been hyped to the point of imminent explosion. The price is heavily manipulated, and most people investing in the asset don't understand the technology. But the manipulated price is more concerning to me. You either need a lot of shares or a lot of money to influence a market. Either playing with the price is equally concerning.

How is "the price manipulated" when it isnt even on any market yet?

Please engage brain before fuding

Right now the worth is directly correlated to an asset locked into a contract. The more ETH that gets deposited, the more ETH the DAO has to invest. There is no "price" at all to even manipulate, it is all just code managing a large amount of ETH.

So $100m mark has been passed (9.9m ether which is ~13%).  Wonder how high it will go by the end.

2 weeks to go so we are technically half way. I pumped another few BTC into it this morning.

OK so 106.89m USD equivalent/10.54m Ether (over 13% supply) now - less than $7 million before it beats Star Citizen to become the biggest crowd fund in history.

And so it begins......

Fortune Magazine: Leaderless, Blockchain-Based Venture Capital Fund Raises $100 Million, And Counting :

http://fortune.com/2016/05/15/leaderless-blockchain-vc-fund/ (http://fortune.com/2016/05/15/leaderless-blockchain-vc-fund/)

DAO getting huge attention from top business and financial magazine, this is something big that cannot be ignored. 

DAO is similar to a company or a ventture capital. So there is not much difference, why would top companies interested in it?

Attention is okay, unnecessary hype is not.
The bigger the hype, the bigger will be the crash.

This article in WSJ is hilarious (in an unintentionally clueless way):

Chiefless Company Rakes In More Than $100 Million: http://www.wsj.com/articles/chiefless-company-rakes-in-more-than-100-million-1463399393 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/chiefless-company-rakes-in-more-than-100-million-1463399393)

Now TechCrunch: The Tao of “The DAO” or: How the autonomous corporation is already here

http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/16/the-tao-of-the-dao-or-how-the-autonomous-corporation-is-already-here/ (http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/16/the-tao-of-the-dao-or-how-the-autonomous-corporation-is-already-here/)

Also DAO is now THE biggest Crowd Fund in history.  Over $120 million now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects)

So much press

The DAO price is absolutely mental!  It makes you wonder how the price of Ether is so low, when a single project of Ether is worth $120mil+
I can see Eth going back up to 0.03 at this rate, there has been a big bump today already, it is on it's way!

The price a few weeks ago of 0.016 is starting to look like it was a great opportunity.

This is only the first of many ETHER based projects and crowdsales this year.  Imagine the potential when there are tens if not hundreds or more DAO like uses of ether.

Interesting! Is there a list of planned and upcoming projects which will based on Ethereum like Doahub?
Considered to increase my stake for DAO, but when there more projects coming, then i will save my Ether and Bitcoins for these projects in order to spread the investments.

Yeah, and from outlets that reach some pretty damn good demographics. Media outlets like the Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Fortune and The Economist successfully target the "aspirational 17%" who are sure they're going to join the 1% someday. THat's why their ads give the misleading impression that they're read only by the 1%. ;)

Apparently an exchange lost about 185.000 Ether plus 250 BTC with a total loss of 2mln USD dollar. Be ready for the big dump now and we should see a fall in price of ethereum. I think the website hacked is gatecoin.

I think even if you put all your ether into the DAO you will have enough time before these projects launch to sell some DAO tokens (hopefully at a profit though obviously not guaranteed) and use the profits to invest. 

I am also not sure if the crowdfunds will be directly in ether, bitcoin or both. 

I just know that the projects I am thinking of such as Etherex will be based on the Ethereum blockchain. 

Also there is some discussion that the DAO may even fund EtherX directly : https://forum.daohub.org/t/killer-suggestion-for-a-proposal/2116 (https://forum.daohub.org/t/killer-suggestion-for-a-proposal/2116)

From what I remember most of these projects do not have definite launch dates yet- you are best off looking on ethereum discussion boards and ethereum reddit to find out more.  Also some of them are (or at least were) listed on icocountdown: http://www.icocountdown.com (http://www.icocountdown.com)

That's old news and dump may already have happened.

Maybe but I don't see any dump yet, as the price of ether is still at almost 0.025 BTC , if the dump would have already started then I expect the price to be down the 0.02 area. But maybe nothing happens for the moment.

You haven't been paying attention then.  There was a big dump just around the time the news broke and it continued until this morning when the price started to recover.  I'm not saying it's happened but you're just spreading pointless FUD for now particularly given that the amount of ether stolen is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount in the DAO.  If ether is going to dump it will do so for other reasons the coins from the theft will be a temporary blip.

The price dumped on the Gatecoin news on Friday a bit. Thats kind of old news.

I suspect that the hackers took the Gatecoin proceeds and invested them into the DAO  :o

Recent price spike seems attributable to the OKCoin rumors though. Seems like they rolled out some new code in preparation of the launch and you can see it say "ETHBalance"

https://www.okcoin.com/market.do?symbol=2

symbol=1 is LTC, symbol=0 is BTC.

this is old news. Stop spreading lies and FUD.

Is it categorize as old if it happened just 2 days ago? Check out gatecoin site, https://gatecoin.com/ it is stated that they lost 185,000 eth. Maybe they/people still have their eth and haven't exchange to anything, that's why no price change as of this moment? . I hope that's the exact number of stolen eth, what if not?  :-[

Around here, it is...

ETH now > $11.50. The short sellers got scared off when it broke above 0.025BTC

An article about the DAO in the financial Times: Automated company raises equivalent of $120m in digital currency

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/600e137a-1ba6-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/600e137a-1ba6-11e6-b286-cddde55ca122.html)

The price of ether went up because there is a lack of supply due to DAO. Many of the ETH were bought and exchanged for DAO. I think it is a good time to short ETH now as most of the demand for DAO were already bought. Many of the shorts have already covered so there will be little buyers which will make it difficult to sustain this high price.

Good misleading on the people fucking idiot....


Good portion of ETH is locked yes,but there are still 13 days for buyers to get DAO so don't expect this fundraising to be over yet,the avalanche is yet to come,during DAO final days price should be over 20$ with ease due to lower supply available and the first undecided buyers....

The price of Ethereum is around 0.028 now. So there could be a short squeeze for the people who sold Ethereum.

Could be. I loaned out some ETH last night 'cause the daily interest rates were so high - but this morning, most of the loans were closed by the short sellers who borrowed them.

I think that the Ether will remain stable.

Bloomberg Article here: Blockchain Company Wants to Reinvent Companies :

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-05-17/blockchain-company-wants-to-reinvent-companies (http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-05-17/blockchain-company-wants-to-reinvent-companies)

The good news on ETH is getting out there. Gud times.

CNBC: Automated company raises equivalent of $120M in digital currency

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/17/automated-company-raises-equivalent-of-120-million-in-digital-currency.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/17/automated-company-raises-equivalent-of-120-million-in-digital-currency.html)


Reuters UK: Virtual company may raise $200 million, largest in crowdfunding

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-blockchain-crowdfunding-idUKKCN0Y82LI (http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-blockchain-crowdfunding-idUKKCN0Y82LI)

New Article in the Economist:

The DAO of accrue : http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21699159-new-automated-investment-fund-has-attracted-stacks-digital-money-dao (http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21699159-new-automated-investment-fund-has-attracted-stacks-digital-money-dao)

So more people are buying Ethereum to buy into the DAO? Will this DAO be better than conventional venture capital?

Feels like bitcoin circa year end 2013  ;D
https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/ethereum/usd

Should have bought some ETH while it was low, too risky now because the price could plummet again.

Yeah currently it could go either way ;), but that's at all points so sometimes you just gotta decide.

OK so there was an article relating to Ether being added to Coinbase which we already knew.  There will also be a rebrand to GDAX.  The most interesting part though talks about the DAO:

https://i.imgur.com/oPXPZ0n.png?1

Article Link: http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-exchange-rebrand-ethereum-trading/ (http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-exchange-rebrand-ethereum-trading/)

Well Ether seems to be continuing to pump since yesterday.  Is this just on the basis of the OKCoin/Coinbase news?  The DAO has slowed down and likely will stay slow until the usual mad rush that occurs at the end of an ICO but right now it can't be responsible.

It could be that news, or it could be the DAO-inspired pump taking on a life of its own. Or it could be Bitcoin's drop to <$440: there seems to be a rule that Bitcoin and alts move inversely.

Whatever the reason, ETH's stalled; it's back to $13.xx.

New article of relevance to both Ether and DAO:
 
Forbes: Digital Currencies Show Potential To Be New Asset Class As Demand For Bitcoin Rival Ethereum Rises

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/05/20/digital-currencies-show-potential-to-be-new-asset-class-as-demand-for-bitcoin-rival-ethereum-rises/#6b32a6876841 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/05/20/digital-currencies-show-potential-to-be-new-asset-class-as-demand-for-bitcoin-rival-ethereum-rises/#6b32a6876841)

There has been a real bull run now. Everything can't be rationally explained.
I have learnt to just enjoy the ride while it lasts.  :)

How long do you think it will last? The price is not rising fast now, it is in the consolidation stage at the moment.

I think the general trend will be upward due to the proliferation of projects that are using ether.  Obviously it won't go straight up.  There will be fluctuations, small dips, small rises, static periods.  Nothing just goes straight ups.  Also the dips allow people to buy in at a lower price.

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 I'm waiting for it to have a grand mal, after people hasten to get their piece of the .03 and beyond pie. It keeps retracing, but as long as this Slock.it DAO thing is still kicking, I guess a  general uptrend is to be expected.

For the DAO to fund any projects the ether they took in needs to be converted to fiat. I read somewhere that one of the projects they were considering supporting was a car sharing business in France. You can't buy vehicles with ether and even if you could it would be instantly exchanged for fiat.

Basically the DAO has been used to drive up the price  of ether and as they spend those ether to support projects it will drive the price back down. Once the ball starts rolling people holding ether will sell as well.

The idea that the DAO ether are locked off the market is incorrect. Those ether must be sold to make investments. If the DAO does not sell it's ether to invest, the DAO will have failed as an investment method. The only locked funds are those of the individual investors who currently can't get out.

That's not entirely correct some ether will be turned into fiat but a lot of projects will actually be using more ether.  Slock.it for example will take payments in ether and part of that ether will be going straight back to the DAO.  Most of the early projects will likely have to be like this (due to the undetermined legal status of the DAO). 

There is strong support for early projects to be those that grow the ethereum ecosystem for the mutual benefit of ether and DAO users (e.g. ether apps, exchanges like etherex etc.).  This will potentially lead to progressively more and more utility for ether resulting in greater and greater buy support.  It probably won't happen over night but as time goes on and ethereum use cases continue to increase then there will be continued upward pressure on price for ether. 

There is no guarantee but these things are always risky.  It was the same in the early days of bitcoin.  Nobody ever thought there would be enough buyers to support a price of a dollar, let alone hundreds of dollars. 

The momentum behind ether is now getting to the same kind of stage it was in about 2012/13 with Bitcoin so there is very big potential for growth there.

If the Ethereum is used as a fuel for the smart contract system as well as a currency to pay for service, it is valuable.

Yes exactly.  The more uses it has and the more it gets used then the more valuable it will be.

Well said. And it is in going from Crypto to product and staying in Crypto.
Good money pushing out bad.

This thread subject is about the price of ether. If the DAO had of been limited to a small percentage of ether price movement would have been insignificant. Now we have an investment vehicle that represents a large chunk of a micro economy. When those funds get released the economy will need to convert millions into fiat to get these projects going. This is just true (people can't live on ether alone). The immediate future is either a very steep price correction or the DAO votes not to release funds.

I understand your believe in ether functioning as the fuel of a new economy with future DAOs and services. The problem here is the DAO is far to big a percentage of that economy and a price crash is likely for ether in the near future. Hopefully that economy can recover without souring a new generation of cryptocurrency enthusiasts.   

Actually I would urge you to read more about how the smart contracts work.  Ether will not be paid out in huge chunks it will be paid out on a monthly basis.  Also as more projects get funded there is likely to be greater demand for ether due to the utility.  

Slock.it is so far the main proposal and that will only accept payment in ether - where will the people using Slock.it get their ether from?  They will have to buy it using fiat which will create more demand.  

If Slock.it takes off like an Uber or a Google then this would be huge for ether demand.  Nobody is saying this is guaranteed.  It is all a calculated risk but your extreme pessimism has the same ring to it that we saw when people said bitcoin would never be worth more than a few cents.

I hardly think expecting a price correction in any cryptocurrency qualifies as extreme pessimism (I'm surprised you do). I'm talking about the immediate future of the price of ether.

Well then we misunderstood each other.  Obviously there will be short term falls in price.  I'm talking about the long term price trend which I think for ether will be a continuing rise.

Yeah: the same old virtuous circle for any new disruptive tech that breaks through that ol' catch-22. Interestingly, blockchain technology is following the same path as the old standards. The usual way to break through that catch-22 is to find niches where the new tech cut costs or increased reliability for old industries.

The first business-scale use case for the steam engine was not the railroad train. It was use as a water pump for mines, making it a handmaiden for the centuries-old mining industry. In this humble capacity, not only did it save money through pumping out water much more efficiently but it also added value by enabling mines to go deeper underground. Some of the miners who bought a steam engine did so to revive abandoned mines full of water that could now be pumped dry.

We're seeing the same thing with "blockchain." Who else but an accountant would get enthused about a permissioned federated ledger system's ability to scotch out embezzlement? For the ordinary bloke, this benefit is a yawner - but to a fellow that thinks "two signatures on every check" is the state of the art in cash control, it's really exciting.

With regard to crowdfunding, projects like The DAO herald a new era in which crowdfunding becomes the replacement of the Graneen Bank. It'll really show its stuff if it facilitates a kaleidoscope of small projects, including some idiosyncratic ones.

We're a long way away from the point when the crypto economy reaches enough critical mass to spawn a crypt-only economy, in which some lucky folks can live their lives without touching fiat. Until then, whatever gets ya there...

New DAO article in New York Times:
A Venture Fund With Plenty of Virtual Capital, but No Capitalist
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/business/dealbook/crypto-ether-bitcoin-currency.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/business/dealbook/crypto-ether-bitcoin-currency.html?_r=0)

Moon Report Ether price analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhhSB5PFQkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhhSB5PFQkY)

https://i.imgur.com/f8q7Aq2.png

Aren't those two hammers extremely beautiful ?? Looks like sellers are having trouble handing with buying pressure. Since we got an higher low, buyers are actually supporting the pull back from last little dump.

It depends where the buying pressure is from. If the people stop buying Ethereum to get into DAO, there will be fewer buying.

We are all the capitalists. I like the idea of the DAO, but we still need the investment experts to advise us.

Looks like most alts along with Ether are undergoing a fall right now.

Amen. There is a reason why much education, and a few professional licences are necessary to simply be a fund manager. That doesn't even speak to landing a job in the space as well.


Indeed. Dash took a tiny hit the last time I checked, but ether is under going correction at the moment, hopefully it will recover as I assume there are a lot of investors in the 15 esque price range that would like to see a return to those levels.

The price of the Etheruem has dropped over 20% over the last few days. So the correction has begun.

We told them, but they accused us of being false. We shall see what will be reaped.


"In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth"

But the Ethereum price could rise in long term. It depends on the actual usage of the Etherum in real life.

damn, that is exactly like the ETH chart. Thinking of selling it, I bought it (not much) when it was over 0.03 BTC . Sure, people who bought it very cheap dont need to do this, they will still profit even if it crashes very low.

We always say, I hope I did invest before because the price
today is way higher than before.
If we do not risk we will not get anything and will just keep saying that. When we invest, we always risk and so let us not put all our money into one thing. :)
We can not tell the future of Ethereum, it still depends on the usage of the coin.

Not only that, DAO would sell ether once it starts running.
Remember what happened to BTC price when all the coins collected in the Ethereum IPO were sold?

When the Ethereum IPO started, the bitcoin price was around $600. A year later, it was around $230.

Interesting article from the cofounder of Coinbase Fred Ehrsam.  Very bullish on ethereum and ether.

https://medium.com/the-coinbase-blog/ethereum-is-the-forefront-of-digital-currency-5300298f6c75?source=latest---------1 (https://medium.com/the-coinbase-blog/ethereum-is-the-forefront-of-digital-currency-5300298f6c75?source=latest---------1)

Inversely, check out this article about some of the issues with implementation of smart contracts vs reality (the necessity of a trusted Oracle to report events to the blockchain, which brings up centralization issues).

I love the concept of smart contracts, but I must agree, this is a glaring hole in the usability of said feature.

Kraken on Twitter: DAO trading across 7 pairs to launch this Saturday! http://blog.kraken.com/post/144971320167/kraken-to-support-dao-trading (http://blog.kraken.com/post/144971320167/kraken-to-support-dao-trading)

Huge news on Kraken.

Anyone notice this (older but should be spoken about)? https://news.bitcoin.com/vitalik-buterin-ethereums-price-rise-increases-our-sovereignty/ (https://news.bitcoin.com/vitalik-buterin-ethereums-price-rise-increases-our-sovereignty/)

Ethereum to go to POS early next year, which we heard of, but then to reduce emissions to 0-2 million per year! WOW

The Ethereum will go to pure PoS later next year. At first, PoS is just used to verify the PoW blocks.

This is old news from march. may not happen at scheduled time, but will happen.

That is right. So we can have a year also time to mine the Ethereum. Then use the Ethereum to stake.

That could be a good idea. The could be the reason why the hash rate has risen so much in the last 6 months.

The Ethereum price is very high at the moment, it is almost $15? Is there any good news out there?

Well there was a massive successful sale of ETH to the DAO. What did you expect to happen to the price of ETH with so much of its supply locked away out the market???

But the daily supply from mining operation is till high. It seems they are all absorbed by the community.

It is a good article. But you could claim almost the same for Lisk and Waves. Probably even for IOTA. So, being bullish is surely not a bad choice but you should consider other promising projects in this area, too.

I have nothing against ethereum but I honestly don't see how such a big, inflationary supply can sustain an high priced token. I don't know what the fair ETH price is, but those expecting bitcoin tier prices are insane.

If the new supply is kept at 18 million a year, the inflation will be high initially. But in 50 years, the inflation is just 2% a year. In a thousand years, the inflation is 0.1%.

That's way too much time. In 50 years Bitcoin could be so high that it was simply a mistake to ever hold ETH beyond shorting it for more BTC.

If the Ethereum keeps the PoW and also reduce the block reward gradually, the price could be very high.

But the developers and the large bag holders want to make money out of their existing holdings.

Its impossible to happen even they stay in pow the price of ethereum according to other opinion is overvaued.. but this is just like bitcoin happens.. 
If more adopter will come for ethereum and more site are accepting ethereum maybe the price of ethereum will be high and more reduce coin will happen and increase price coming..

It depends on the general usage of the Etheruem. If there are more usage/users, the price will rise.

So far, there is good application for the Ethereum. The biggest is the DAO. It used 15% of the existing Etheruem.

Once BTC price settles at halving, we see the real price of ETH

The price of Etheruem is $16.6 now. Do you think it is not the real price of Etheruem. What is the real price?

Nobody knows the real price of bitcoin. It is all set up the market. The balance of the buying and selling determines it.

Once Ethereum goes to POS and puts a soft cap on, meaning small inflationary rate, with 100 or so million Ethereum being out there, I could see a price of 100 to 200 or so USD per ETH. If Crypto just explodes all bets are off though!

If the Ethereum uses PoW for the long term and reduce the block reward gradually, the price will be much higher.

The demand now is real though. Who is to say that the BTC price settles at the halving?
I think that is when she starts moving as the miner supply is cut in half.
With Brexit, China inflating things, etc. I think BTC (and ETH) are just getting moving.

Casmatesid - No argument from me.  ;)

There are many existing bitcoins. If you want the price to double for the new coins, the price of old coins will also double.

So the price rise is not only due to the block halving. There are other factors. Maybe more people are into bitcoin now.

I'm going to update my above Ethereum price.
Pretty rough hit with the hack of the DAO today. Ethereum has lost over 30%.
I think there are questions of "What happens when another contract is exploited?" Is rollbacks or software "fixes" gonna be a norm?
Then we don't have that immutable database, now do we?

Clearly having $160 million sitting in a contract is gonna attract some interesting hackers. Perhaps having subcontracts, separate side chains, etc. could help alleviate some hacks.

I'm not sure where the price is headed, but most certainly not up (unless big money wants to prop up their previous investment.)

Ether price goes to the hell, maybe one dollar in the next week

Playing with smart contracts on isolated testnets and sidechains, sure ... but never go full retard and use Ethereum and the DAO--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

I am curious: who invest and how many in the next eth crowdsale?

Not many people will do that now after the DAO theft. I think people will be more careful about signing digital contracts.

I am expecting pretty fast recovery to 0.022 levels once people will realize the mess you can read everywhere is mere FUD.
From 0.022 I am looking at 0.03 levels (possibly even higher).

I'm hearing a lot of buy signals from my traders. This is massive buying opportunity for ETH. Nothing more.

Keep buying. Get some cheap ETH. THen sell at 9. Good luck.

There are many fuds in the forum. But for the price to recover, the developers have to do a lot of work to stop the current draining.

We are finding out that solidity is not the only flawed language on the EVM; Serpent is vulnerable to similar problems.

http://www.joeykrug.com/home/a-serpent-send-exploit

Doesn't look good for price longterm . I expect slow capitulation normally but if these attacks become the norm than there is going to be a general panic.

That's right not worthed to invest on ETH for now, maybe soon ETH will die but anything can happen, have a chance ETH price will rising again after this time. so it's only panic effect from how ETH future if the development of ETH got attacked.but,  for slowly this will be back to normally again.

I am glad we found these problems now. We should repare the holes and make the Ethereum better before it becomes too big.

Let's sort the bugs then get ready for the next leg up.

going parabolic, WTF!?  ???

The DAO wars have begun. http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-developers-draining-dao/ (http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-developers-draining-dao/)
The ETH devs are going to do what needs to get done to keep their scheme alive. May be the last gasps of air or a miracle in the face of desperation.
HF, SF, white hat attacks. They are going in fully armed. After all, now that they know what was programmed wrong with theDAO, they can come back stronger with many more ICO schemes to come with the Ethereum blockchain. There are profits that need to be made, and they'll do whatever it takes to vanquish all threats to their bottom line. :D

That is right. The recent events are very dramatic. There is also a voting goes on in the ethpool.org about the soft fork.

This is getting embarrassing, The daoattacker has targeted the whitehat "hackers" and is taking/winning their funds now-

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p9z93/it_seems_attacker_just_targeted_the_whitehatdaos/

The attacker has to wait until the creation period of the white hat dao is over to make the move to try to siphon funds. Problem is, the attacker's child DAO is susceptible to the same attack. Anyone can join the child Daos by sending ETH to them during the creation phase. This is all just a big pissing contest now. No one can recover any ETH with this method, unless someone gives up or someone creates a small Child DAO that manages to fly under the radar.

So the attackers have to buy more DAO to do the attack? That could be the reason why the DAO is so expensive now.

No, you have to send ETH to the Child DAO. If you send DAO, it does nothing, and you will never get your DAO back. Also, the tokens created in the Child DAO are not the original DAO tokens. They are the child DAO tokens. Also, the attackers only need to send a small amount of ETH to the Child DAO. Just enough to implement an attack when the creation period is over.

How long is the creation period? Is that 27 days or shorter? So the attack can go on forever now due to the bad coding.

The creation period is indeed 27 days. To get the ETH back, you then have to make a proposal, vote yes, then wait 2 weeks for voting period to end. Problem is, someone can make a split proposal that only takes a week. So they can implement the attack and drain your DAO before you can get your ETH back.

There are many DAO in the exchanges. Can you make a proposal to take the DAO out in a similar attack?

I was totally wrong in my previous post. You cannot create new DAO tokens in the Child DAO be sending ETH to it during the creation period. The only way that you can create new tokens in the Child DAO is either following them in the split, (you can only do this if you voted yes on the original split proposal) or the Original DAO has to pass a proposal to send ETH to the Child DAO and create tokens. I do see the DAO has this proposal, but I doubt you can convince people to vote yes on sending 1000 more ETH to the attacker, even though it would get the counter-attacker's foot in the door.

The hard fork happened yesterday. The Ethereum price did not crash below $10. So that might be a good sign.

The Ethereum price is stable around $12 at the moment, the trading volume is also not big. The market is quite calm.

If I don't see any major price movement downward by the weekend, I'm going to call this one over and done. Hard to believe, but I'm still sitting here watching all this.

Price is rigged. It's meaningless at this point. I think eth remains very high risk trade. Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, also not next month or the month after. The pumpers need to take their profit (or loss) at one point and that's when you don't want to be long. There is better risk/reward trades out there. Just put it on ignore until in 6 or 12 or even 18 months - see what it has become by that time.

Oh oh really? Care to share your source or are you just fudding as usual?

It's not really that hard to believe when you think about it. Ethereum community managed to successfully pull off a hard fork with full consensus and all under an extreme time constraint. The whole community pulled and worked together to achieve this. Now compare to Bitcoin. 3 years later no block size increase no consensus and a fractured community.

Minecache, you're so full of shit, incredible.

So why the Etheruem price is rising? Do you think the Ethereum price is just pumped and will be dumped soon?

Dude you are asking someone called " sock " wtf. He only created that account to fud and talk down the prices.
And, ethereum is pumped because the dumpers after the dao hack are returning, that's why i think we'll see 20$ in 1-2 months.

Word.

Oh put a sock in it. Nothing but constant bickering and whining from the haters. You don't like Ethereum. Big deal, hundred of thousands of others love it. A real genuine challenger to broken Bitcoin. Move on there is nothing here for your sort.

You will notice the ONLY thing he doesn't talk about is Ethereum DAPPS
And isn't that the point ?

@Minecache
There is only about 2,300 user that come to this forum per 24 hours.
So i call bullshit on your claims hundreds of thousands of users support Ethereum.

You are a liar and a fraud.

@Spoetniktard I wasn't referring to users on this fora. Anyway as you clearly put your money where you mouth is how's the ETH shorts going you goon?

My point still stands ..did not think i'd have to explain it but apparently you are playing games .. again.
You see if there was hundreds of thousands of ETH supporters i would safely bet
..there would be more than 2,300 daily users here at Bitcointalk.
I bet most people around here would take that bet with me too !

And i am not sure that is a reply to my comment about DAPPS or what.
You are getting harder to understand around here with more and more made up weird words etc
I dunno if you are trying to get ETH to appeal to some hip crowd or what
But you keep making one liner topics saying "gud" all the time etc.
You need to shorten the word Forum (fora) ?

Your reply was evasive & insulting.. needlessly.
But it's fine with me.. you seal your own fate.
I don't have to make you look bad, you do a good job of it all on your own.

ETH shorts going ?
Implying i am trading Ethereum coins ?
I never have had any ETH tokens nor will i.
No clue why you would even suggest that (thought that went with out saying)

You didn't short your ether ? So you are here to make money but you tied your hands on principle and decided not to have any because you hate ethereum and don't believe in it ? You really expect us to believe this ? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
I suppose you invested whatever you got from your panic selling into doge and trumpcoin.

Yup I smell strong pugnant Spoetniktard BS!!!

I think if he is so convinced that Ethereum is a scam and will fail then the price will go to zero. So he should short it.

Why would someone who wants nothing to do with ETH short it? In order to close your position, you actually have to buy ETH. And if a pump is going on, you may be squeezed out and forced to close your position. Then you're helping the pump even more. Not everyone who hates ETH is a bear. Get real. ::) Some of us think ETH stinks to high heaven and will keep our distance from that highly manipulated market.

The Ethereum Classic is alive now. Do you think the Ethereum haters should buy some Classic to make some profit?

hi, I think it just made a kind of split of ether to a bigger pan for the money, September will tell what will fall on air or jump higher than his head.

Ethereum Price is crashing hard, for people who need context here it is --



 Ethereum Classic is growing in support.

ETC/ETH and ETC/BTC pairs already trading on Poloniex

https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/757069127018315777

And Ethereum classic being added to Bitfinex soon -

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4uczsp/bitfinex_to_list_ethc_soon/d5opzjn

https://twitter.com/EthereumClassic/status/757214748291141633

Miners are starting to move over to support Ethereum classic as that chain is currently more profitable to mine from. Hashrate on ETC is growing and as Ethereum price crashes looks like ETC may start to eat away more market share.  

i dont know about spoetnik, but my eth shorts are going very well :D

ETH current price is high, I guess eth is a coin that is promising for the future. see eth today reminded when bitcoin still have a little price, then people also think that it's just for a moment, but the current price of bitcoin is already very high, I think soon eth will have a high price too

Yeah and this kind of thinking is exactly what popped the internet stock bubble in 2000.  People didn't give a shit about earnings and only a very small handful of companies survived.  A lot of people took huge risks on total garbage.  Bitcoin is eBay.   Ethereum might be Yahoo if it gets very lucky, and if it doesn't, it's going to be govworks.com.

People are confident in the Ethereum technology. They are buying both the Ethereum and the Classic version.

That could be right. Even the Ethereum Classic is worth $40 million at the moment. What will be price be in a week?

The ETC is worth about $80 million now. It seems there are many supporters to the ETC and they are buying it.

Unless those ETC buyers collaborate with the Ethereum Foundation and the DAO hacker, the price will be 0.

That is right. I saw some posts in the forum that some ETC supporters will offer legal aid to the hacker.

The DAO hacker can only get his ETC in August. So by the time he gets it, the price might be zero then.

So if you are a trader or a miners, you should sell before the time when the hackers dump the coins.

The DAO hacker can have access to the Ethereum by the end of August. So we have to act quickly.

I think it is pretty unstable and it would be almoust impossible for this currency to raise a huge price, because there is already Bitcoin, which seems to be reliable.

Ethereum is not a currency, it is a fuel for smart contract system. So the price could be different from bitcoin.

Ethereum also has some value and so it can be used as a currency. If people do not use bitcoin, they can use ETH.

The Ethereum confirmation time is faster than the bitcoin. But the block size is increasing too fast, it is 31 GB now.

I will have to move the Ethereum folder from the SSD to mechanical hard disk. It is growing too fast.

Ethereum is a hot commodity right now. I wish I bought some when i saw them selling for $2 per share a not so long time ago.
Now Ethereum C is the one to look out for. It is rising fast and not stopping. It has enough fuel right now to surpass ETH if it wanted too. ;)

I do not know why many Ethereum fork holders are happy with the price right now. The movement is still weak and it is very possible that it will go down again. It would be safer to save your money now and buy at a lower price later. If you buy now you are taking more extra risk than by buying lower.

The ETC price is dropping at the moment, if the trend continues, by the end of August, the DAO hacker will not earn much.

Some ETC holders are very rich, they own a lot of bitcoins. So they might be able to support the price after the dump.

So let them do that. I think the Ethereum Foundation should sell its ETC at the current price to support the development of ETH.

The ETC has already declared independence. So it has its own community and its community will support its development.

Does not mean that the Ethereum Foundation will not support the ETC developments in the future?

The Ethereum Foundation will have nothing to do with the ETC. The ETC can copy the code if it wants to do. That will be a clone.

The Ethereum Classic has already declared independenece.

I think it will only use the codes from the ETH very selectively.

That could be true. I heard there is a meeting of the ETC developers in London. But there is not much information about the meeting itself.

The ETC price dropped after the meeting, so there could be no good news from the meeting in London.

In fact, the ETH price has risen against ETC. The ETC is just 12% of ETH price now. The ETH will also have a meeting soon.

Both the Etheruem ETH and ETC price is quite stable recently. I think the price could be stalbe for some time to come.

When the Monero mania dies down, I think the money will flow back to Ethereum. The price will rise a lot.

The Ethereum price is quite stable now. It dropped to 0.018 in the last few days, but it is heading for 0.02 now.

during community monero coin is solid trade and solid use monero
monero coin never die still in trade big exchanger
but is monero coin down price very posible , but wait after big dump
ussualy can down

If that is the case, I will wait some time until the Monero price drops further. It might drop 50% or more.

If the Monero price drop around 50% from the current levels, I think I will buy some as it is a good coin.

I like to work with a reliable speculation on ethereum now.

The Ethereum price is rising now. So it is better to buy some. I think the price will be pumped a lot soon.

Ethereum price goes up because of a group of investors who pumpes a lot and did you buy ethereum right now it is better to stock lots of ethereum while is not yet pump or maybe wait until it goes down again around 0.17 or maybe less and did you know that you can buy ether to coinbase.

I think it is a good advice. The price might not go to the 0.017 in the short term. It might go up to 0.025 first.

The Ethereum price is 0.022 now. It seems it will go to 0.025 before it goes to 0.017. It might not go down.

This is pump for yesterday conference, even with the hack, ethereum is so manipulated crypto that you should be with clear head if you plan to invest
If you but now, be sure to dump on first sight of downtrend, ethereum in long run is going nowhere, it aint safe not usable, its just hyped and lied all around, even firms which try to use it will be so burned because they fall on hype and usability will be far from promised, and final brick on ethereum stone will be POS

Well ethereum has a big big potenial to grow up when we are talking about all the alternative coins therefor the ethereum price is now at 0.023 bitcoin and waiting for it to dump again by investors so that i could place an order again to make more profit when the ethereum goes up again lol i love this in short term.

Particularly, I'm looking ETH pretty close since last november 2015, in that month I bought 10.000 ETH to test the system because I was very impressed by the Smart Contract concept that I had seen first time in a document of Nick Szabo, so, my expectation in Etherium was and I think always will be linked by the S.C logic, what is such thing I know for sure will be the future way to do almost everything in our daily life. I I follow a lot of reunions, seminar, webnars, congress that has becoming much easy to see somebody presenting the logic and concepts behind Etherium. I think Devcon2 had been very good for such explanation about future of ETH. Devcon1 was good to explain the concepts... So, in resume, particularly I said, believe in ETH, it won't disappoint the world.

Banco Santander will issue cash on the Ethereum block chain.

https://twitter.com/CampEther/status/778869513450352640

Its not a good idea that you buy ethereum right now because its continues to decrease instead of the price will increase more.. what is happening i saw this in coinmarket cap every day checking its reducing from 14 usd price and now its 12 usd..

Ethereum price now is quite good enough that you can sell your ethereum right now after few investors pumppp the ethereum hope that it will continue too , so that we can earn lots of bitcoin when the time comes for selling ours ethereum coins :)

It is possible that the Etheruem price will rise further. So it is better not to sell it for the fiat. It is OK to sell for bitcoin.

That is right. If you do not want to hold the Etheruem, you can sell it for the bitcoin as its price will rise.

The Etehreum is under good development. The price could rise in the long term.

On 8 September, more than three weeks ago, we launched a DApp on the Ethereum mainnet with a user interface at fdd.etherisc.com. The DApp enabled users to share the risks of delayed or canceled flights on the Ethereum blockchain. Read our announcement for details.
First, we want to thank all the brave users who applied for a policy: Our main goal is to learn from you; and with your help we can further improve the experience of using smart contracts. Thank you for using the Flight Delay DApp, and thank you for being so verbose about it!
The numbers
The DApp accepted policies for more than two weeks from 8 September to 25 September with a short interruption between 18 and 20 September in which we updated the smart contract to fix a critical bug (details below). In this time the contract received a total of 40 policy applications of which 31 (77.5 %) were accepted, 7 declined, and two could not be processed. The sum of all premiums paid in was 29.39 ETH.
On the mainnet a total sum of 30.8 ETH was paid out to 6 policies. This is pretty close to the zero-sum game we hoped to create, which is surprising, given the relatively small number of policies. In summary, we are 1.4 ETH short now (and a ton of experience richer).
On the morden testnet there was even more activity: 63 policies in total until 25 September. We deployed the contract on testnet again without a deadline, and people continue to use it, with 15 new policies so far.

The ETH price has dropped against the bitcoin in the last few days. But that is due to the price rise of bitcoin.

I don't think so. We saw a lot of times when Bitcoin rises Ethereum also rises too. They are not heavily related.

Bubble popping. Sub .01 soon. Death of shitcoins when the Bitcoin bubble begins.

I found the Ethereum price is about 0.017 now. That is due to the rise of the bitcoin price. The dollar price is still over $10.

The Etheruem price is 0.014 now. It dropped to 0.013 earlier today. It seems people are deserting it and some other coins.

ETH is going up.

It seems like that the falling Ethereum price can be linked to the rising BTC price and also the Zcash launch...

Monero is also falling, but Eth not breaking the $10 barrier just yet.

needs more time to see eth price to go up. and also i am missing the news for etc fork, i hope after etc fork, the price for eth and etc will be up again. and i think you are right its because the increase price of btc, but for zcash, hm i don't really understand how zcash price now is reduced much than yesterday.

this is Just my opinion thought if ETH price will be recover when BTC price stable..but stable still have no idea when is BTC price stable

buying good at the moment? Any no fanboy here?

All things considered, ETH held pretty strong over the last couple days.
Probably a good sign if you are invested in a long position.

Seems like it was an absolute bottom. I'm glad I bought a lot during those dumps. The rise isnt even a pump, just accumulation and buying in low prices. It will go over 1700 this week for sure. ;)

When the ZCash mania finish in a few months time, then people's attention will be diverted back.

I think the ZCash mania is finishing now. The coin is less profitable to mine than the Ethereum and the price drops day after day.

The ZCash price dropped to $55 a few hours ago. It might drop further until the full block reward is achieved.

here i am. i think eth will rise. But after btc bullrun. everyone hate eth only because it is dumping during btc bullrun. wait 1-2 month. i think it will be near minimum 11 $ in some month.

I believe that smart contracts is a strong trend but were accompanied with the misconception that they were unbreakable and once this misconception became undeniable the bubble bust.

Feedback loops work in both directions but downtrends have a tendency towards equilibrium and this means that if developments remain insignificant then no new bubble will begin as smart contracts are still the prevailing crypto trend despite market movements.

However, bearish conceptions and misconceptions about HFs with ETH/C dominates the market participants perceptions which means it will get much worse as it becomes reinforced by new HFs.

The first ETH HF showed how vulnerable investors are to developers of altcoin projects as they are insignificant to the process of HF despite being the owners.

Developers apply their technological perspective to markets and blame speculators for movements, but speculators see a perceived misconception they can profit off in either direction.

The way the ETH/C downtrend ends is by “regulation” of its HFs otherwise the very core propositions of smart contracts and altcoin projects remain susceptible to confidence games thus unstable markets.

And with developers of ETH/C applying their technological perspective that a HF is always for the good of everybody to markets and the market is wrong when they think so, a short position in ETH/C prior to HFs are sound as long as this remains true and the aforementioned conditions remain unchanged.

The ‘prior’-to-HFs makes this trade idiot-proof with the exception if Bitcoin declines during which the short position is taken so when to take the position should relate to risk appetite and understanding of Bitcoin markets.

A “stable" Bitcoin market would reveal if my hypothesis is true or false when applied to ETH/C markets but a surging or declining Bitcoin market would not.

Rumours on a HF because of the Geth consensus flaw caused ETH/C to drop double digits in percentages the same day it occured. False positive? Possible and we'll see when a HF occurs. There will be different paces by planned vs unplanned HFs but under current conditions of HFs both are predicted bad for price by this hypothesis.

Interestingly if ETH were to become the number one cryptocurrency the accepted fundamentals of cryptocurrency would change.  Did you think about that? A lot of investment into ETH would alter the perception of totalitarian HFs into being regarded as 'true'.

The developer of this coins is really good the ethereum price at the martket is great to buy and start trading with this coin if this going to be stable then we are not going to buy it because we can't make profit to it. I believe that this will be the second bitcoin in currency.

Ether price for a month now is just going lower and lower and I don't expect to get it higher in the upcoming weeks.

I though that it was because of bitcoin rise but seems that isn't the reason so even though bitcoin is lower now the ether is too.

Thank you...

Ethereum price is good we need to hold atleast more ethereum to get profit if we are just buying 1 to 2 ethereum profit then minus the fees it's like wasting the time to make money. After a months etheruem will be pump and it will be higher as the year end.

Do you mean the Ethereum price is very cheap now? if there are more hard forks, do you think the price will drop further?

ETH will drop below 7 USD in next days.

below  6 USD in the next days?

It has bounced back.

Well, actually the price eth back at 0.01 BTC . Well, this is probably a good thing, but now I feel that in the near future, prices will fall back eth. Well, eth once had the highest prices, but I think in the near future, will appear altcoin will replace eth.

I think it will go back to ico prices or lower so < $1.00

According to from the bitcoin wisdom, the green waves has come, which mean all of the alt will be getting any effect from the green waves of bitcoin. It may increase again soon if the price of bitcoin has got stuck in the stable condition. Is this become such a best moment for buying it or not. This time to try that.

i am not denying the fact that ETH is going down and may even die but going back to $1 price will take a long time and lots more dumps by everyone including whales to get there.

and don't forget ETH has always been a manipulated coin and not much has changed in that front.

I also believe Ethereum will lose more and more in value over time.Look at the all time chart.
There is no bottom found yet.The last short pump was just another attempt to get some more dumb money in, so that whales and probably devs can continue cashing out or switching to other coins.

True,it even break the support level which means the trend or movement will go deeper and same as you said whales are probably cashing out their eth and might have transfer to another coin. Well i cant still conclude since ETH is not dead for now as long theirs a movement.

We need a stable Bitcoin for Altcoins market to find its grooves back, if Bitcoin keeps pumping the downward trend is likely to continue, it is the market bias reaction to Altcoins and nobody wants to be left bagholding any coins.

That's very true but I still stand by my previous call of eth <$1 in the near future.

That's the primary reason for the altcoin which gets a negative trend at this time, seems like the price increase of Bitcoin was suing it for adaptation with it. I may think if the other factor like the system problem, dev problem looks like becoming the secondary reason for it. But if the green waves of bitcoin were getting stopped, and the altcoin will be reaching this green waves too.

As long as it is actively developed, the price will not go that low.

ETh wont reach that level ever. It touched 5.5$ and Instantly rebounded. At the end of the day it was trading at $8. According to me eth <$1 is not possible.

its very possible because an active developer does not equate to people putting up real money to buy some.

as i said ETH is a manipulated coin and it is hard for its price to go down to zero overnight.

and now that some time has passed from my first comment we can see that more clearly. the price has made a small bounce back and became stable and now it is starting to go down a bit again with the $8 broken and not much support there may be another wave of dumps coming or just another testing the waters. we should wait and see.

The whales are already out. That's why I think <$1 is coming soon like during 2017.

i think the real reason is that there is no real need für altcoins, correction, only they are good as speculation objectcs

https://twitter.com/Crypto_God/status/809572359153786880

That is true at least for most altcoins.

But the Ethereum might be an exception. It has many good developers.

Every new coin is opportunity for traders to earn money and this is all about. Don't get too emotional about project, this can be very bad for you, and for your money. Why should ETH be diferent from other coins? Even bitcoin price is very speculative and its price is controled on exchanges.  ::)

So far, the Ethereum is the best of all the altcoins, although I am not emotional.

What makes one coin "best one"? Bitcoin is popular and interesting because it is first and already it is adopted very well, after few years been incognito. ETH still has chances but has no time, it will become obsolete very fast. This is not the case with Bitcoin.

Ethereum will surpass Bitcoin, just watch! It is much better. Smart Contracts. Fast block times. Welcoming community. Clear leadership.

You are too optimistic. Smart contract can also built on BTC system.

Every good idea can be used by BTC.
 I don't see how smart contracts are something revolutionary, when Blackcoin had it even before ETH and small number of people here even know this, because they didnt use ICO funds for aggressive marketing, cause they are not ICO!

I think the bitcoin can learn from Ethereum to do smart contract.

There is some need for altcoins. If you need anonymity, you can use Monero, ZCash or Dash.

But only some elements were implemented into the btc system, so actually I'm not sure it is possible to make such a contract with it. At least it should be hard.
Nevertheless, we can't say that smart contract is a privilege of ETH since it's easy to build it with Byteball as well.
As for Ethereum surpassing bitcoin... I think it is rather likely to become as popular and as expensive as bitcoin is right now but not overcome it. ETH has its own issues due to many new opportunities it gives us.

Those three coins are rising fast. It seems that people want some anonymous coins to do some trading.

ETH inflation will catch up to it eventually unless they get POS going giving a people to hold onto there Ether.

By the looks of it won't really affect the price instead it will continuously go up.

Maybe after the PoS, the price will go down. As the cost of PoS is very low.

I think it will use PoW+PoS to get some interest from miners.

Since last week after the darknet announcement that their Marketplace AlphaBay Will Enable Ethereum Payments integration by May 1st. After the news, Ethereum prices are moving quite fast. It is better to invest some money in this and if lucky can make some decent profit.

Ether price still has some room to rise, with all support its is receiving from several companies. It is the altcoin that is closer to deliver something different than just another cryptocurrency, with practical use. I believe that we are months away to see a good valorization, founded in apps that use ethereum protocol to run smart contracts.

When do you think ETH price will go up to 50usd again?  ???

It might happen after the whales accumulate enough.

Is this for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkrhiG3p6jk

This may be, may be true. There are surely some big whales behind Ethereum, and it seems like after Microsoft, Alibaba is present to support it too.

today :)

Honestly i think ETH is Facebook to BTC/MySpace longer term (~2+ years).  I think ETH is here to stay.  I am a fan of BTC too, to be sure, and it benefits everyone for Bitcoin to continue rising and dominating in the near term.  But ETH I believe will one day replace BTC in market cap and worldwide adoption.  So I think ETH @ $200 in the next 12-18 months, barring any catastrophic event in crypto as a whole, is quite possible.

If SHA-256 is broken we have much bigger problems on our hands than our precious little coins..  ;D ;D ;D

Is Etherium a better investment than Dash right now? Dash is already more expensive, so it may not have as much potential for gain as Etherium has. I'm just looking for something to buy besides bitcoins, and Ether may be a good one.

Ether is THE best crypto platform out there.. so if you have spare money, and you want to be in it for the long term, buy Ether.
Dash is just a currency, Ethereum is so much more.

That is right. The ETH is both a currency and a fuel for smart contracts.

That could be the reason the price is rising a lot.

I think by the end of May we will see a price of $100.

I agree.
A nice move to the high recently. Perhaps we will reach $100 even earlier.

It will take a few weeks at least.

Does anyone know where etherscan pulls their ETH price from that's shown when you look at the transaction?  It shows the total value for the amount of ETH but I don't know where they're getting the price from. 

It hit 100 + wow

Next days are going to show us each ethereum worth of over $125 in fiat. There will be reasons of this happening first Ethereum itself will see some appreciation in the market and second Bitcoin will be sitting at over $1900. This combination will take us to new all time high for sure.

ETH network hashrate history would be a better question ?!

The hash rate will keep on rising as the price doing up.

The hash rate is at all time high now.

Is this the only reason? But the real question is will it last as long as the bitcoin?

I believe it will, Ethereum is very popular in South Korea.

I don't think this is the only reason. There are other reasons as well, I speculate that their an entity really pumping it hard. Whether is a nation, South Korea or wealthy investors. I think its not late to join them and buy ETH now. It may touched $300 in the next coming weeks.

Then these entities much be very rich.

I think so. The people investing in Ethereum in the past have made good profits.

Ether price is unexpected because nobody doesn't know how much the ETH price will raise in the future. Still, many people are in confusion whether it will go further or not. I think now it is not the right time to buy ETH maybe.

I don't know what happen, ETH prices were immediately explode raising up, I can't expect that ETH market value were become valuable due to there's a lot of issue lately. But even there's a issue regarding anything in ETH they cannot stop and surrendered.

Ether price as of now its very high the price is $300 and I believe it will increase more and I hope thw price of ether before the end of this year maybe around $1000. So its better to buy ether now and enjoy the profit later.

There's many good ico coins out there that are taking eth payments so I believe it will keep rising. And it does have a good amount of supporters so why not jump onboard?

Metropolis, Pos casper. that will make etehreum goes to the moon as fast as possible. I think there is a big chance if the ethereum will try to take the bitcoin's place in the future. I will believe it.

You, that won't be that easy to hit $1,000 up. The market requires much more capital flow to realize this target. And we also need to consider the market capitalization of it. In $1,000 case, capitalization would be around 100 billions of dollars which does not fit into current market conditions.

Ethereum price is rising violently (about $400 by now), I think this is a good moment to get some ETH and profit later in the long run, not now.

I hope this is not just a bubble.

I don't think its a bubble cause ETH is gaining popularity and the number of transactions are also increasing. They still have scaling issues somewhat like bitcoin does but I think its smart contract system has won over a large part of the crypto market. If it becomes the leader it will rise much faster than bitcoin.

Historically very few coins of any kind has outperformed ETH, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

as much as you do not like me to say this
at price jump like this https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/ethereum/usd i cant help think that its a bubble when my "grandmother friend is asking me about ethereum"

If you are a miner, then it is good to take some profits now.

I think the price will rise again. it is better to hold.

Blockchain Capital chief analyst Spencer Bogart is worried about potential risks that could make the price of the Ethereum digital currency plummet. "I think we will see ETH's price below $ 100 in the next 12 months," the specialist at one of the biggest blockchain investment companies wrote on Twitter this Friday. For him, the sharp rise in the price of ETH, which since the beginning of 2017 has risen more than 5,000%, is mainly, if not entirely, driven by the ICOs market.

I think this is also what I'm thinking about ETH. The rising price is due to ICO's and Crowdsale that is offering ETH as form of investment. That is why in the last months or so the price really took off. But I disagree with him saying that the price can go down below $100.

I hold for the last few months and have made good profits.

ETH taking a dip https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/ethereum/usd, scalability issue scare from ICO?

Op started this topic last march 2016 and for sure if he buy ether on that year the price of ethereum on that year is 10 dollars I think so if he buy and hold it 1 year more until today they can earn a lot of money for sure and his money become 30 times because the currently price of ethereum is 300 dollars and for it will increase again . Wait for 1000 dollars hit before sell ether.

Ethereum price was so unpredictable, I cannot imagine that their price in the market were raised up like that. I think their potential is guaranteed high. Because I was expecting none before but now I was assuming more improvement and more increasing of price in the market.

Ethereum price was slowly down and I don't like it happen, because my investment will be affected. However, it was investment and I take the risk of them but I was assuming that ethereum price will back into increasing trends.

Considering project using ETH smart contact and their project gives a lot of impact with the price. You may think this is a bubble and may the price is up later but that's possible it's keep getting down and down.

I believed he has already sell his ETH when the price reaches $400. I'm pretty sure he has made a lot of profit by just holding on ETH for one year. But I don't know if the price can still reached $300 again. But I guess, if there are still ICO's that are accepting ETH as investment, then the price will be much more in the future.

As of now the price of etheteum dump at $300 and i believe it will back again at 350 dollars so buy more ethereum now because maybe the price of ethereun after few months or before the end pf this year 2017 will be $1000. Hold our ethereum , buy more , dont panic srlling and for sure everyone will earn a lot of profit after that.pump ethereum . More ethereun more money to come.

Today price of ethereum is now only 300 it will decrease the price but i believe after weeks it will increase again and the price will hit 500-1000 dollars each . Buy more ethereum now hurry up.

The next 24 hrs are going to drop again, its going to fall to 280 again. Get ready for the round 2 panic once it breaks 300.

I think ethereum price now was slowly fall down. Even though their price is fall down I believe that ethereum have a potential to survive in the future. Also I think $1000 dollars is not hard to ethereum to hit.

ETH price was up, people sold them ETH coin and running down.

you will be patient. ending 2017 maybe will be 500 dolars.

I hope so. It is better not to sell at current price.

Yes. 31.12.2017 = 987,08$    my glass sphere is ok

With the recent developments i do think it will take a really long time to see those valuations ,there was a serious scaling issue and for sometime we are seeing some network issues in the ETH platform and things got out of hand recently and the price crashed hard,i still think it is consolidation time but to see another rally it might take a long time.

Yeah its likely to invest now while the price is low.
No to panic selling just the price is constantly decreasing. Hope it will have a good rise soon.

The price is getting stable now. So it is a good time to buy back.

Maybe it is better to wait for it to go a bit lower.

It is a good time to buy ETH. It is starting to go back up.

I would still today wait

eth is going to 200 and maybe 150 dun buy now!!!!
remember it was like 2-digit usd worth before months

Yes its a good to buy ETH this time. Lets buy Eth while we can afford to buy. Because I beleive its price will rose again.

ETH is holding strong above $220. It will go above $300 soon after this market correction ends. Just because it was 2 digit stock before does not mean it will go back there. Its like saying Apple was a 10B company before so it will go back to 10B.

Well sooner or later all these ICOs will have to cash out the more Ether continues to fall in terms of price.Therefore is could decrease in value much more as some might think at the moment. It's mostly the ICOs what are holding up Eth's value at the moment. This is a very fragile house of cards without any strong fundamental base. Just pure speculation and lots of greed. So be cautious!

Ether is best crypto to invest :)

And the recent ICO are the main reason for the ethereum price to hold above than $300 value. If it would not have been those ICO the ethereum price would have fallen pretty sooner than recently.

Eth will stay in range of 150-200 I think, you should be very careful, actually no need for panic but it is the nature of this market.

Your right man, ethereum was played to $150-$200 I think this is part of marketing strategies of ethereum. Moreover, I believe that this is the right time to buy ethereum coins because I was expecting that their price was increased this coming months.

ETH Price will raise.
It will rasie dut to:
- ICO;
- PoS;
- Needs of Gas to transfer.

It is a nice option to store money,... at least for me.

the stability of ETH price is a good indication that it is a good time to buy with current price of 230~250$ range. It will be definitely a good profit in next few weeks.

I agree with that. The price is quite low at the moment.

After PoS, the price might drop as it does not have the support of miner community.

Except it changes everyone who owns Eth into a potential miner.

Everyone who stakes Eth has potential for a payout and staked eth isnt on the market, which means shortage of supply....

Not everybody can stake ETH. There are selected fews to run the nodes.

Apparently Casper release will change it so anyone with 32 as a minimum can stake.

I think the eth price will rise sharply.I read an article with Bill Gates .
He has written the Bitcoin and Ethereum Price will rise in the future.
1% of the money in the month in coins is ok. Then one is rich later .
I think he's right.  :)

Did Bill Gates mention Ethereum Classic sepcifically?

I do not think so. But MS is using ETH now.

No, he never mentioned ethereum in a real manner.

For the price, I wait another bull market from ether. But this won't happen soon, if we can wait around 6 months, we can reach around $600 or so.

Can we have more new applications for the ETH? Last price rise was driven by ICO.