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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 01:49:50 AM



Title: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 01:49:50 AM
I am borrowing 4 Bitcoins on btcjam for one month at a 10% monthly interest rate. Please look at my current investment on btcjam. The borrower is very solid and the amount of risk on that loan is basically less than the risk on this loan. I have a payment of 5.3 Bitcoins due to me on the 10th of February and once that comes in I will pay of the loan early. # note (that loan is 4.5% a month) In the case that borrowers does not pay me then my investment of the principle will more cover this loan.

I wish that I could make my accounts receivable into some sort of binding collateral on btcjam then all of the people who also invested in that loan would immediately be interested in my current loan seeing as it is a higher interest rate for the same risk.
btcjam please look into that.


https://btcjam.com/listings/1573




Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: John (John K.) on February 05, 2013, 01:58:58 AM
Identity verified:    no   
Address verified:    no   
Will pass,sorry.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Vod on February 05, 2013, 01:59:18 AM
The borrower is very solid and the amount of risk on that loan is basically less than the risk on this loan.

The risk on this loan is that you don't pay it back.  It doesn't matter where you are expecting coins or how many.  You still can walk away without repaying.

You are anonymous, have no history here, and BTCJam will do nothing if you default.  So you have nothing to lose by keeping the coins.  It won't take long to make another account with a dozen posts.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 02:04:08 AM
To be truthful Im not very comfortable giving my information to a random company on the internet. Would it be possible to use the account on btcjam as collateral? Like a bond with a trusted member? The trusted member gets to change login information and I get the 4 bitcoins and then those accounts receivable are what I would have to lose. I have 10.6 btc due to me on btcjam in the next month.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: jwzguy on February 05, 2013, 02:06:23 AM
To be truthful Im not very comfortable giving my information to a random company on the internet.
Just imagine how not very comfortable people are giving their money to a random person on the internet!


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: John (John K.) on February 05, 2013, 02:07:25 AM
To be truthful Im not very comfortable giving my information to a random company on the internet.
Just imagine how not very comfortable people are giving their money to a random person on the internet!
This.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 02:25:28 AM
To be truthful Im not very comfortable giving my information to a random company on the internet.
Just imagine how not very comfortable people are giving their money to a random person on the internet!
This.

Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Vod on February 05, 2013, 02:29:10 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: CurbsideProphet on February 05, 2013, 02:29:57 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 02:33:20 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D

So wait let me get this straight. Its not possible to get multiple credit cards in someones name and then spend money that they become liable for?
And yes maybe not thousands but hundreds is probably reasonable for a case of id theft. I don't really know much about the business.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on February 05, 2013, 02:33:40 AM
You can always reset the password or something.

I might offer you a loan if you show me ID / passport / bill with address / paystubs (any 2 of those). I delete all IDS (which would be in a 2fa google apps account) after the loan is complete.

Or, you could just have some patience :)


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: CurbsideProphet on February 05, 2013, 02:36:40 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D

So wait let me get this straight. Its not possible to get multiple credit cards in someones name and then spend money that they become liable for?

Yes, it is possible.  For credit cards, your maximum liability would be $50.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0213-lost-or-stolen-credit-atm-and-debit-cards


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 02:44:59 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D

So wait let me get this straight. Its not possible to get multiple credit cards in someones name and then spend money that they become liable for?

Yes, it is possible.  For credit cards, your maximum liability would be $50.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0213-lost-or-stolen-credit-atm-and-debit-cards

Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: CurbsideProphet on February 05, 2013, 03:07:03 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D

So wait let me get this straight. Its not possible to get multiple credit cards in someones name and then spend money that they become liable for?

Yes, it is possible.  For credit cards, your maximum liability would be $50.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0213-lost-or-stolen-credit-atm-and-debit-cards

Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?

If you read more carefully that's for a lost debit card.  Credit cards are capped.  Anyway, goodluck with the loan.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 04:19:35 AM
Its a numbers thing this loan is about 84 usd while my id is potentially worth thousands. Does that make some sense?

If you need to borrow eighty dollars, your ID is probably not worth thousands.    ;)

 :D

So wait let me get this straight. Its not possible to get multiple credit cards in someones name and then spend money that they become liable for?

Yes, it is possible.  For credit cards, your maximum liability would be $50.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0213-lost-or-stolen-credit-atm-and-debit-cards

Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?

If you read more carefully that's for a lost debit card.  Credit cards are capped.  Anyway, goodluck with the loan.

My mistake and thank you.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: wholesaler on February 05, 2013, 05:07:22 AM
besides everything you give me your forgetting one crucial thing a ssn # without that i cant get a cc also thousands thats if someone good just saying there are people buying and selling millons of peoples id who probbaly have better credit scores then you


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 03:12:33 PM
besides everything you give me your forgetting one crucial thing a ssn # without that i cant get a cc also thousands thats if someone good just saying there are people buying and selling millons of peoples id who probbaly have better credit scores then you

Please, for the love of Satoshi, use a bit more punctuation.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: wholesaler on February 05, 2013, 04:26:02 PM
besides everything you give me your forgetting one crucial thing a ssn # without that i cant get a cc also thousands thats if someone good just saying there are people buying and selling millons of peoples id who probbaly have better credit scores then you

Please, for the love of Satoshi, use a bit more punctuation.


OK then sir :/


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Vod on February 05, 2013, 06:33:51 PM
Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?

Dude, practice what you preach. 


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Tomatocage on February 05, 2013, 08:07:45 PM
Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?

A brand new BTCJam account has next to no value, and certainly nowhere near 4 BTC.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 05, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
Thanks also that $50 is if you catch it in the first 2 days. The website you just posted says that after 2 days you are liable for up to $600.
All discussion of id theft liability aside would a trusted member be able if they so desired to take my btcjam account as collateral?

A brand new BTCJam account has next to no value, and certainly nowhere near 4 BTC.

Please take a look at the my account history. It shows that I have invested 9.9 BTC in a loan to BTCquick. That loan has yet to be paid back to me. I will be getting 5.3 BTC (hopefully) in 5 days. I have been trying to burrow against that; but as it gets nearer to the payment date I have less incentive to actually burrow the 4 BTC. At this point about 50% of why I want to get the loan is just for a credit history. If you think that BTCquick will pay back the loan then the account is worth 10.6 BTC.
 
https://btcjam.com/listings/1173 this is the link to the btcquick loan I invested in.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: BurtW on February 06, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
I do not see Currencevents as a lender on that loan.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Tomatocage on February 06, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
I do not see Currencevents as a lender on that loan.

I didn't see him listed until I logged in.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: BurtW on February 06, 2013, 04:05:10 PM
I do not see Currencevents as a lender on that loan.
So you are User #1328.  Is that correct?
You did not even use the same username.
You did not link your BTCJam account to your account here.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 11, 2013, 01:02:40 AM
Loan repaid in full!  :) That shows all of you doubting Debbys! ha!


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: KWH on February 11, 2013, 01:12:36 AM
Loan repaid in full!  :) That shows all of you doubting Debbys! ha!

Yes, THAT showed us!
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h428/keithh409/tumblr_m5l1p68z7e1qmyzc7.gif


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 11, 2013, 01:20:58 AM

I know it didn't really, but the accusations were not pleasant. Its just nice to be able to at least have a little proof that I'm trustworthy


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: KWH on February 11, 2013, 01:22:50 AM

I know it didn't really, but the accusations were not pleasant. Its just nice to be able to at least have a little proof that I'm trustworthy

Your saying so isn't proof of anything.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: Currencevents on February 11, 2013, 01:32:11 AM

I know it didn't really, but the accusations were not pleasant. Its just nice to be able to at least have a little proof that I'm trustworthy

Your saying so isn't proof of anything.
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Look at the link to the loan you lazy, little, ignorant troll.
Yes feed on the outrage.


Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: KWH on February 11, 2013, 01:45:06 AM

I know it didn't really, but the accusations were not pleasant. Its just nice to be able to at least have a little proof that I'm trustworthy

Your saying so isn't proof of anything.
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Look at the link to the loan you lazy, little, ignorant troll.
Yes feed on the outrage.

Ahhhh...another panhandler I wouldn't loan a dead skin cell to.  Congrats, your mom must be proud.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h428/keithh409/hED3E8AAA.gif



Title: Re: 4 Btc loan
Post by: tantienstar69 on February 12, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
3 BTC