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Title: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: calkob on March 27, 2016, 10:57:22 PM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: n691309 on March 27, 2016, 11:17:46 PM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

You can paste in the text file the PGP encrypted message, so only you can decrypt it, for example though keybase PGP key. An alternative way is also through Folder lock but it's not free.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: unamis76 on March 27, 2016, 11:33:08 PM
I'd simply create the keys on an offline computer, dump them there are store them in the same place. As for encryption, PGP is an option as said, but I think I'd probably just encrypt the drive holding the keys.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: European Central Bank on March 27, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
Handwritten on a nice piece of paper. Screw attempting to secure a file. Even if it takes forever to type out it's worth it.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Hirose UK on March 27, 2016, 11:45:43 PM
you can make a folder of your private keys on your computer (offline), then click right button, choose "add to archive" > "advanced" > "set password" > "OK".
voila! your keys is safe now.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 27, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
Use the password as the name of the file and fill it with random symbols.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: CryptoDatabase on March 27, 2016, 11:51:43 PM
TrueCrypt is a good way to encrypt, double encrypt, and hide anything you want and it is also free to use. You could encrypt your entire computer if you wanted to or just a single partition.

It has also been tried and tested, and passed.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on March 28, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Burn it to CD and put it in a good safe. They have to break into your house and the safe to get it.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: achow101 on March 28, 2016, 12:08:31 AM
TrueCrypt is a good way to encrypt, double encrypt, and hide anything you want and it is also free to use. You could encrypt your entire computer if you wanted to or just a single partition.

It has also been tried and tested, and passed.
TrueCrypt is no longer developed and its developers have apparently taken down nearly everything related to TrueCrypt. luckily it is open source so there are forks of it. I recommend using VeraCrypt which is forked off of TrueCrypt. I think a good thing to do would be to GPG encrypt the text and then encrypt it with VeraCrypt for extra security.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: CryptoDatabase on March 28, 2016, 12:24:22 AM
TrueCrypt is a good way to encrypt, double encrypt, and hide anything you want and it is also free to use. You could encrypt your entire computer if you wanted to or just a single partition.

It has also been tried and tested, and passed.
TrueCrypt is no longer developed and its developers have apparently taken down nearly everything related to TrueCrypt. luckily it is open source so there are forks of it. I recommend using VeraCrypt which is forked off of TrueCrypt. I think a good thing to do would be to GPG encrypt the text and then encrypt it with VeraCrypt for extra security.

I read about the two forks but I don't know enough about them to make a suggestion on using them.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Wendigo on March 28, 2016, 02:19:56 AM
I usually take the text file with all the keys and print it out then cut out the public keys and the parts I don't need and only keep my private keys. It's handy to have all of the QR codes of the private keys on the paper in case you need to transfer the funds to a new wallet in an emergency. Then if you want to feel more secure you could copy this 2 or 3 times over and put the papers in some secure locations like a home safe or a bank deposit box or in your back yard.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: sgravina on March 28, 2016, 02:27:03 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Just print it on paper and give it to your Mom.  Tell her it's important.  She'll keep it safe.



Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: quentincole32 on March 28, 2016, 02:38:15 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Just print it on paper and give it to your Mom.  Tell her it's important.  She'll keep it safe.


Best answer so far.
Print the key is the best way to keep it safe from something bad on your fake life online and store it in your real life.
Encrypted - decrypted are still breakable. But your mom? I guess she is not :p


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: bitbaby on March 28, 2016, 02:45:14 AM
You can of-course encrypt the keys itself with BIP38 Encrypt whilst making them and if you use a good strong password then you wouldn't need to encrypt the file since its pretty secure in itself.

Encrypted it with GPG like mentioned above is another good method.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: ralle14 on March 28, 2016, 03:16:25 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Just print it on paper and give it to your Mom.  Tell her it's important.  She'll keep it safe.


You could also do another option which is laminate the paper then seal that in a case then bury it in your backyard.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 28, 2016, 03:17:28 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Create a Veracrypt (https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/) container encrypted with a strong password and store the text file in the container. The container does not have to be large, unless you have MB or GB of information you want to protect. Read the online documentation (https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/documentation) to learn how to use. The container can be stored anywhere you like on your laptop and is portable.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Amph on March 28, 2016, 07:02:29 AM
i would encrypt it with aes, and secure it in a usb stick, for long term purpose, don't forget to do this under a secure environment


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: DimensionZ on March 28, 2016, 07:24:59 AM
I think printing out the text file with the keys and laminating it is the best way of keeping it away from harm. You could never be 100% sure it will not get compromised if it's encrypted. I would put it somewhere safe the location of which only I know . Encrypting it and storing it on a usb stick works too but then you would need a computer to access the data and it's slower.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on March 28, 2016, 07:45:32 AM
I am sure all the above are great idea. The only problem is when you would like to decrypt it... Will you be able to do that whenever you wish to? Will the software for encryption still available and working after like 5 years? Will you still remember the password/passphrase?

These are risks to encryption with complex methods.



Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: aso118 on March 28, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
My private keys are printed out and kept in a bank locker.
With 24 hour security and a vault, it is as safe as it can get.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Elwar on March 28, 2016, 09:52:35 AM
You can order one of these:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977486.0


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: sotisoti on March 29, 2016, 09:09:16 AM
GPG has been there for like 16 years, I am sure it will still be there after 5 years.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on March 29, 2016, 09:20:51 AM
I have encrypted mine in an Libre Office 5 Writer document, added a strong password including all sort of characters (I remember it well no problem) and beside it, I also compressed it in a rar file with a sentence long password(which I can remember easily) , pretty much this is the best encryption free programs can offer you.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Ardenyham on March 29, 2016, 07:08:39 PM
It would depend on the security of the method the private key was generated by, If it's generated by an offline armory wallet for example in a PC that was never connected to the internet would be safer than a blockchain private key.
I think I would keep the TXT file in multiple flashes and hold them in multiple vaults.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: shorena on March 29, 2016, 07:25:11 PM
TrueCrypt is a good way to encrypt, double encrypt, and hide anything you want and it is also free to use. You could encrypt your entire computer if you wanted to or just a single partition.

It has also been tried and tested, and passed.
TrueCrypt is no longer developed and its developers have apparently taken down nearly everything related to TrueCrypt. luckily it is open source so there are forks of it. I recommend using VeraCrypt which is forked off of TrueCrypt. I think a good thing to do would be to GPG encrypt the text and then encrypt it with VeraCrypt for extra security.

I read about the two forks but I don't know enough about them to make a suggestion on using them.

In any way you should move away from TrueCrypt, esp. if you are using windows[1].

[1] http://motherboard.vice.com/read/encryption-program-truecrypt-has-a-critical-vulnerability


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: Meuh6879 on March 29, 2016, 07:27:20 PM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

create the TXT
use encryption in 7z format ( AES-256  )
done.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: deepceleron on March 30, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
The OP's question is wrong. It should be "how to I securely erase a text file that I put on my computer's hard drive, a file holding plaintext information that should have only been stored encrypted?"


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: lumeire on March 30, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

Just print it on paper and give it to your Mom.  Tell her it's important.  She'll keep it safe.

True, right next to the family's land titles and every member's birth certificates.

@ontopic As for me, I printed the private key, laminated it and stored it in a safe.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: rinhunter on March 30, 2016, 12:32:13 PM
if I, first take the screenshot, I print out and compress IMG files with encrypted rar, I put rar file in a special microSD, and put printed private key in my important archives


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: NorrisK on March 30, 2016, 12:49:48 PM
Easiest is probably to male an archive od your txt file and encrypt the archive when you create it. Also, with a not so clear name, nobody will suspect the archive to contain private keys unless they know you have it and are specifically searching for it.

Printing has the theoretical weakness that the memory can be accessed to take the printed files, so make sure that also happens securely/offline/reset printer.

Handwriting and then laminating would also be a good solution.


Title: Re: How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on March 30, 2016, 01:47:50 PM
How would you secure a Text file with your private keys on it?  what encryption do you recommend?

You can paste in the text file the PGP encrypted message, so only you can decrypt it, for example though keybase PGP key. An alternative way is also through Folder lock but it's not free.
I will not recommend any folder lock application which give error after few use like to buy key. Its better u use pgp encryption. Frer encryption ia available at igolder.com search i cant remember exact url.