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User: 'Cloud Mining' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379594)

Proven Shill accounts: 'GermanGiant' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311162),'Vitamin King' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg14331368#msg14331368),'HSBC' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg14350522#msg14350522),'SolidRate' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1357591.msg14343810#msg14343810),'AlphaNil' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=852857.msg14343758#msg14343758)

Their moderated thread: High Performance Bitcoin Mining | Starting from 0.0007 BTC/Ghs | Since 2014 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.0)

Description of scam: Cloud mining service long proven to be a ponzi scheme in the absence of ANY evidence to the contrary.

This scam is actively trying to cover up criticism in this new phase of using their sock-puppet shill accounts to post multiple "Hey I got paid!" posts, suggesting they are desperate to find new victims. This indicates a greatly increased risk the ponzi is about to collapse.

Previously the OP of the moderated thread remained largely silent and did not delete critical posts for fear of triggering a scam accusation which would likely damage their operation more than the posts remaining in the thread.

The latest posts to appear were from known shill accounts 'Vitamin King' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg14331368#msg14331368) and 'HSBC' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg14350522#msg14350522) which prompted me to post my PSA warning to inform any newcomers who may be unaware of the fraudulent nature of this purported cloud mining operation.

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

As the above PSA appeared at the top of a new page, relegating the latest shill posts to the bottom of the previous page, 'HSBC' deleted his "I got paid" post and reposted it after my PSA so that the new page would not contain the PSA. I followed suit, to which he simply repeated. I then edited my PSA post to one warning of the indications the scam was likely close to collapse.

Having then posted my PSA on the next page, below HSBC's "I got paid" post, it was very promptly deleted by user 'Cloud Mining'.

Also of note is the recent increase in the activity of 'GermanGiant' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311162), the likely owner of both the scam and the sock-puppets, who is more frequently posting in threads these days in order to gain greater exposure for that large signature banner he carries.


The frequency with which the shills for this scam are now posting encouragement for this 'cloud mining' scam is suggestive that the scam is extremely close to collapse. Any money you send them is likely to be stolen.

Please quote this thread if you encounter any 'cloudmining.website' shills currently active around this forum.

'GermanGiant' is maintaining his run of posting in forums which do not display his negative trust rating.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311162;sa=showPosts

If you haven't checked it out yet, please review my suggestion here for dealing with this obvious gaming of the trust system by known scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438012.msg14548472#msg14548472

Following is the proof of his hypocrisy...



CryptoDevil believes both of them are into fractional reserve mining (the term is not fractional mining), but he leaves -ve on everyone who stand by or benefited by www.cloudmining.website, while throwing a blind eye to those promoting Bit-X, which clearly shows his intention. Though, his trick is not working anymore, because people have started to realize how corrupted DefaultTrust is...



Blockchain Proof: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

p.s. I am guessing 90% cryptodevil supporters on this thread will be sig spammers.

Nice cryptodevil you give this scumbags some extra attention. They look like ore mine with there news about closing old miners.

Sure thing :D

That's a 0-1 for you.

I am, check my new sig. Like it, shill?

You're only pissed cos I'm right.

Just to update, two more confirmed sock-puppet shill accounts for this scam:

Only scammers say Trust is overrated.........as a newbie I find it HIGHLY useful.  I can make an informed decision on whats valid while reading the RED

Guess I'm in the 10%............I support Cryptodevil's and others attempts to keep calling out scammers

Thank you Cryptodevill and others for your valuable postings  :-*

Update, more deletions of posts are taking place in that scam thread. If they are only deleting posts now, after all this time having tolerated dissent and criticism, they surely must be getting desperate before they exit stage left with whatever funds they can.

Thanks for info. I took some screenshots of my posts from their self-moderated thread.

Edit:
Just to clarify - I manage The Merkle signature campaign and i don't get paid per post.


Edit2:

Posts deleted now:

https://i.imgur.com/20c8PKT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LLNRJb9.jpg

Nice work cryptodevil!.High five for you buddy  :)


So by doing this you just want to hide and don't want others to post what they think about it.Well if you have any problem with users posting in this thread,why not hit "Report" button against posts that users posted here and you think they are sig. spamming.I think mods can pretty well judge who is sig. spammer and who is not .

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Well cryptodevil is just sending out warnings because cloud mining is deleting its posts from their self-moderated which always will be seen as shady.If they are so sure of providing legit services and are sure that they are not scamming anyone why are they deleting posts of their users? they can answer that straightaway on threads or can handle via PM .

Well it doesn't relates with bit-x at all.Are they deleting posts or doing some shady activity?

Obviously a DT will red a guy whoever is standing besides a cloud mining site who doesn't have any proof and is deleting posts of users in their self-moderated thread.Cloud mining sites without mining proofs are ultimately PONZIS as they dont reveal up the proof of work that they claiim to be doing in front of their users.So by doing this you are supporting a PONZI which will always paint you red.

Take my advice ,if you or anyone is against cryptodevil against his warning why not posting out proofs about the site that they are legit instead of pointing finger against OP .

I suppot CD but i am just wondering who is paying for my sig?? That dude owes me some money!! oh wait i am the 10% ::)

Fuck me, they are getting desperate to crowbar in a shill post. They even resort to quoting posts from six months ago just to be able to reply to them with more "cloud mining website are so awesome" bullshit.

Its wrong of him to do it.

But cant really blame the guy since he wants to continue his scam or ponzi and youre blocking potential deposits i guess lol.

Most people see the red flags, but if they dont theres another thread in that section that someones listing all the scams there now which is good.

That is the whole point of encouraging others to quote this thread whenever they see the like of GermanGiant et al posting to sucker in newbies.

Update: I'm starting to see signs of a new round of shilling beginning after the main accounts have been silent for a couple of weeks. First 'GermanGiant' came back with an 'innocent' post of no particular note, except of course for his huge sig banner advertising his scam. Then came 'VitaminKing' with the standard dishonest spin on criticism of his scam.

I think it's worth keeping an eye out for any more activity from the other sock-puppet shills after they ALL went quiet pretty much at the same time. But, you know, totallynotconnectedamirite?

none of the cloudmining are trusted

True. None of them. So, please tell us, why you are promoting HashOcean cloud mining in your signature? I think, cryptodevil should leave -ve trust on you as well for knowingly promoting a site, that you believe should not be trusted.

Agree that none of the cloud mining are trusted, but they atleast stay for a year or two before going ponzi..

So it depends if user wants to invest on cloudmining or not

Oh lookie, GermanGiant is back today and busy trying to rope in new suckers:


I especially love how he has emphasised with bold how the OP of the thread concerned could benefit by making sure not to withdraw from his cloud mining ponzi fraud.

Hehe this is a good one :)


Ok i can admit that in fact I am posting to get some money. My opinion on cloud mining however
is not bought, there are many proofs that this site is fake mine. So as countless others.
Its always a good idea to check the site Im linking below. Saved me some BTC.

"Cloudmining.website
Love the photoshopped images (spot the cables or ID's)
This anonymised site has no user security
or real mining for that matter. 12/9/14"
                                                              badbitcoin.org (http://www.badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/index.htm#C)

You can save even more BTC by not relying on sites like Badbitcoin, who shilled for Garza and scrypt.cc.

Use your head. There is no free money.

'GermanGiant' is maintaining his run of posting in forums which do not display his negative trust rating.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311162;sa=showPosts

If you haven't checked it out yet, please review my suggestion here for dealing with this obvious gaming of the trust system by known scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438012.msg14548472#msg14548472

Another sock-puppet appearance from these scammers:


Remember, no proof of mining equals proof of no mining.

I have commented so why do you trust?

I am shocked to learn that hes gonna get away with this

I do not think he understands the forex market, it is very similar to alt coin market, he has 3 years of operation and over 50 million he is arrogant Ponzi, Ponzi that more than 50 million euros, and he has the code D & B DUNS: 22-107-1310 D & B DUNS and: 66-426-6842, when something is Ponzi
p.sl;I do not plan a program with at all, I just saw that they have a good credit rating of http://www.dnb.com/?country=223&language=1012&path=/local_home_US

I think you go to wrong project and thread. I guarantee you that this service was not trading as much as $ 100k
It was a pyramid, but with a weak and vulgar marketing ideas.
Be careful to not get caught in similar projects.

I am shocked.

What do you intend to do with it?


Spamming?

In that part of it will be different from scammers shit?

::) ::) ::)  100k  ::) ::) ::)  

I think you should say that because I've seen 200k level, but more then 100k 100k members received
p/s;however, I want to say here I do not push them, why mark penalized me  ,

Where did you get this information about the amounts and statistics? My guess is that somewhere on cloudmining,website - so it is given by scammers, and you believe it? All Ponzi overstate the statistics to look more legit.

About red tag you should talk to him via PM.

I think the op is the owner and bought this account. be aware

regards

LOL!

Awwwwww, feeling the butt-hurt over being held to account for trying to source a ponzi 'cloud mining' script?

i just want to blame u.

Your a nerd giving everybody red Trust for without any reasonable reason.

Your Refferences are shit.

GO HOME :) your just trying to prevent yourself blamed for promoting this scammers. You are the one who should have red trust rainings ;)

Son of a bitchzyklop :)

CryptoDevil is another moron who thinks he know everything.

Another butt-hurt whiner complaining about there being consequences to promoting scams.

Shove it up your arse, Ramesh.

@ CryptoDevil, Yes you are an ARSE. Not sure what you had up ur ass, but I guess u know how exactly a butt hurts. I see you use the same sentence for everyone who criticizes you. Take it like a man.

Update:  'GermanGiant' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311162) has reappeared after an extended period of inactivity and is busy making multiple posts, predominantly in forums where his negative rating isn't showing, so he can whore around the new signature for his 'cloud mining' ponzi scam.

I am personally not taking any sides on this debate because I have no evidence,
but I certainly respect the amount of time and effort cryptodevil puts into this.
I feel like someone would only do this if they had some actual proof or a serious personal grudge.
#hardwork
#dedication