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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: leen93 on March 29, 2016, 09:17:19 PM



Title: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: leen93 on March 29, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
Is there a website where you could track the correlation?
same for bitcoin - stock market correlations


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: Amph on March 30, 2016, 06:24:55 AM
something like this?

https://research.tradeblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/XBT-vs-Gold.png


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: tyz on March 31, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
Is this a manually created chart or is there an option on tradeblock.com where you can create it? If so, could you point me to this comparator. I could not find it.



Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: Amph on March 31, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
Is this a manually created chart or is there an option on tradeblock.com where you can create it? If so, could you point me to this comparator. I could not find it.

something like this?

snip

dunno i just found it on google image there are plenty of those, but i think it is done with some software not manually


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: leen93 on March 31, 2016, 06:02:11 PM
I just need to know if there is a clear positive or negative correlation


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: OROBTC on March 31, 2016, 06:22:59 PM
I just need to know if there is a clear positive or negative correlation


The chart above states a negative correlation of -0.58.  That is pretty high in the world of the "Social Sciences", where a correlation of (plus or minus) 0.30 is often considered "significant" statistically.

Note something I found curious: how when either BTC or gold prices did not change much, neither did the other.  Hmm.

A large sample size is best when using correlations.  That chart only measures those prices for 9 months, which may be "good enough", but statisticians making judgments ALWAYS like to see larger sample sizes.  If there are charts around measuring the above for longer time frames, that would be more useful.


EDIT:  Less useful, but more current and easy to check is the below chart from stockcharts.com.  It is the ratio of GBTC (a Bitcoin ETF I believe) to GLD (the gold ETF).  This measures the ratios, meaning that IF gold and BTC prices were strongly positively correlated THEN the ratio would likely be quite constant.  IF gold and BTC prices were negatively correlated THEN the ratio would bounce around, which it has until lately...  More time (price data) would be useful.

The chart only goes back six months however, Oct 2015 - through March 2016.

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=GBTC%3AGLD&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=0&r=1459448991850

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=GBTC%3AGLD&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=0&r=1459448991850


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 31, 2016, 07:48:49 PM
I just need to know if there is a clear positive or negative correlation
Not clear enough to really change your trading decisions, no.  You would expect that they would corrolate with each other well as 'risk off' assets, but the chart posted shows that that isn't the case at the moment at least!


If the SHTF, I would expect a much better positive correlation, but at the moment I think it is just chance.


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: Slark on April 01, 2016, 01:32:23 AM
There is something interesting in this chart. Since when Bitcoin symbol is XBX? I never heard about this?
When it was decided?


Title: Re: uᴉoɔʇᴉq-gold price correlation
Post by: Amph on April 01, 2016, 06:34:08 AM
There is something interesting in this chart. Since when uᴉoɔʇᴉq symbol is XBX? I never heard about this?
When it was decided?

i believe it has to do with the word exchange, they used the x as a suffix for bitcoin

found this http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36160/what-exactly-is-xbtc


Title: Re: uᴉoɔʇᴉq-gold price correlation
Post by: deisik on April 01, 2016, 07:47:22 AM
I just need to know if there is a clear positive or negative correlation


The chart above states a negative correlation of -0.58.  That is pretty high in the world of the "Social Sciences", where a correlation of (plus or minus) 0.30 is often considered "significant" statistically.

Note something I found curious: how when either BTC or gold prices did not change much, neither did the other.  Hmm.

This BTC-gold correlation (the correlated part in the their prices) most likely reflects the changes in the price of the US dollar...

That is, not BTC and gold appreciation on their own


Title: Re: bitcoin-gold price correlation
Post by: avikz on April 06, 2016, 10:22:42 AM
It is not wise to speculate bitcoin price based on gold or vise verse because bitcoin is not backed by gold.

But yes, USD is backed by gold, but for the purpose of speculation and trading with gold, this correlation can lead you to an uncharted territory.