Bitcoin Forum

Other => Politics & Society => Topic started by: catch.me.if.you.can on March 30, 2016, 07:31:18 PM



Title: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on March 30, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
https://rehmat1.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/johnstewart911outsidejob-300x1661.jpg

Last year, the powerful pro-Israel Jewish organization ADL condemned leader of Nation of Islam, Minister Louis Farrakhan for blaming American Zionist Jews and Israeli Mossad for committing terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. Listen to his speech below.

ADL also blasted American hip-hop icon Russell Simmons for praising Farrakhan. Simmons is no Israel-hater. In June 2012 Simmons attended Israeli Presidential Conference (here).

Russell Simmons was criticized by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach of ‘Kosher Sex’ for supporting the Ground Zero Mosque. Israel-First rabbi had very good reason to allergic to a mosque. “We live in a secular age where religion has largely repudiated. Sure, people still go to church and they still celebrate Chanuka and Christmas. But religious values have ceased to be impactful on their lives. It’s secular values that dictate what is important, from money and fame to material comfort and financial security. But Islam refuses to adopt these secular values,” he wrote to Simmons posted on Jewish Belief Net website.

Early this month, Simmons endorsed Hillary Clinton for next president.

On March 23, the Nation of Islam Research Group interviewed distinguished American scholar James Fetzer, PhD, to respond to the ADL’s attack on Russell Simmons and Minister Louis Farrakhan for questioning the so-called “9/11 Official Story”.

NOI: Did Muslims commit the 9/11 crime?

James Fetzer: No, 9/11 was brought to us by compliments of the CIA, the Neo-Cons in the Department of Defense, and the Mossad. Neither Osama nor the 19 alleged “suicide hijackers” had anything to do with it. A half dozen or more of them turned up alive and well the following day and were intervied by the UK media (here).

“How could two planes take down three buildings? WTC-7 was not hit by any plane and had no jet-fuel-initiated fires. No steel structure high-rise has ever collapsed from fire before 9/11 or after 9/11 – and it did not happen on 9/11 either, where the Twin Towers now appear to have been taken out by a sophisticated arrangement or mini or micro nukes and WTC-7 by a classic controlled demolition. This was a very carefully planned event,” Fetzer added.


https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/26/us-scholar-muslims-have-nothing-to-do-with-911/


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: galdur on March 30, 2016, 07:39:50 PM
It was a miracle. Two airliners weighing altogether 300 tons practically reduced to dust three out of two skyscrapers weighing 1,250,000 tons.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: BADecker on March 30, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
It was a miracle. Two airliners weighing altogether 300 tons practically reduced to dust three out of two skyscrapers weighing 1,250,000 tons.

It was a U.S. government remote controlled miracle - two humongous drones.    8)


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: galdur on March 30, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
This was taken right after the second tower fell. You can see thousands of tons of pulverized material being propelled at speed. Imagine the amount of energy needed to first pulverize this stuff and then eject it all over lower Manhattan. The energy sink of this event doesn´t add up at all. Building 7 is standing there at the left.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_gjs-wtc032_100205_ssh.jpg


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: Spendulus on March 30, 2016, 11:34:05 PM
This was taken right after the second tower fell. You can see thousands of tons of pulverized material being propelled at speed. Imagine the amount of energy needed to first pulverize this stuff and then eject it all over lower Manhattan. The energy sink of this event doesn´t add up at all. Building 7 is standing there at the left.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_gjs-wtc032_100205_ssh.jpg

Really?  If you sincerely believe that the energy sink does not add up, could you please show your calculations?

I have a hunch that plenty of energy is available in a skyskraper falling to pulverize large amounts of concrete into dust.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: mOgliE on March 30, 2016, 11:56:33 PM
This was taken right after the second tower fell. You can see thousands of tons of pulverized material being propelled at speed. Imagine the amount of energy needed to first pulverize this stuff and then eject it all over lower Manhattan. The energy sink of this event doesn´t add up at all. Building 7 is standing there at the left.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_gjs-wtc032_100205_ssh.jpg

Really?  If you sincerely believe that the energy sink does not add up, could you please show your calculations?

I have a hunch that plenty of energy is available in a skyskraper falling to pulverize large amounts of concrete into dust.


Agreed here. There is no way that this amount of dust was produced by anything but the buildings collapsing. I have no opinions on the 9/11 in itself but it's sure that there is far enough energy in a building collapse to rise as much dust as you want...


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: Spendulus on March 31, 2016, 12:37:07 AM
This was taken right after the second tower fell. You can see thousands of tons of pulverized material being propelled at speed. Imagine the amount of energy needed to first pulverize this stuff and then eject it all over lower Manhattan. The energy sink of this event doesn´t add up at all. Building 7 is standing there at the left.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_gjs-wtc032_100205_ssh.jpg

Really?  If you sincerely believe that the energy sink does not add up, could you please show your calculations?

I have a hunch that plenty of energy is available in a skyskraper falling to pulverize large amounts of concrete into dust.


Agreed here. There is no way that this amount of dust was produced by anything but the buildings collapsing. I have no opinions on the 9/11 in itself but it's sure that there is far enough energy in a building collapse to rise as much dust as you want...
lol see we can agree on some things.  I just view this question as one not "sincerity of belief" but simple physics. 

One of the first uses of mechanical power was crushing rocks, eg California gold mining, first steam engines, power hammers.  Damn straight we can figure crushing rocks just like they did, bottle of scotch going down at the same time and the equations rule the answer.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on March 31, 2016, 06:56:11 AM
http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/sheeple.jpg


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: AzibLala007 on March 31, 2016, 11:35:24 AM
https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=CywPlqpe9ScC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=muslims+have+nothing+to+do+with+9/11&source=bl&ots=hxddEQTFXv&sig=u8Hov35edXofP5OAAxAF8HpjRbw&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=muslims%20have%20nothing%20to%20do%20with%209%2F11&f=false
mjslims have nothing to do with 9/11.
it is just a preplanned action to get entry in the muslims countries just to increase the space for its weapons and the space for increasing army.
and to get entry in these countries to terrorise the muslims.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: Spendulus on March 31, 2016, 04:56:29 PM
Liar.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: BADecker on March 31, 2016, 05:43:21 PM
https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=CywPlqpe9ScC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=muslims+have+nothing+to+do+with+9/11&source=bl&ots=hxddEQTFXv&sig=u8Hov35edXofP5OAAxAF8HpjRbw&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=muslims%20have%20nothing%20to%20do%20with%209%2F11&f=false
mjslims have nothing to do with 9/11.
it is just a preplanned action to get entry in the muslims countries just to increase the space for its weapons and the space for increasing army.
and to get entry in these countries to terrorise the muslims.

Right. And it is all about growing the petrodollar, and making the Middle East as much a part of the U.S. as possible, just for the oil (really, to keep the Ponzi banking system from collapsing), even if we need to force them to be partners with us.

9/11 = inside job all the way.

8)


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: TECSHARE on April 03, 2016, 12:30:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJiKbK0tVM


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: galdur on April 10, 2016, 11:21:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJiKbK0tVM

Amen. Ignorance is strength. Nice job by Mr. Corbett. The video is short, to the point, and hits most of the big issues.





Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 03:17:07 PM
Isn't it really great that we have Islam and Muslims? They are so easy to blame. Who else could we use as scapegoats so easily?

???


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: tvbcof on April 11, 2016, 04:03:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJiKbK0tVM

Amen. Ignorance is strength. Nice job by Mr. Corbett. The video is short, to the point, and hits most of the big issues.

Ha!  A Corbett one I missed somehow.  Another bit of nice work by the dude.  I should fund him one of these days.  Next time Bitcoin gets it's next pop on...



Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: Tusk on April 11, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Spendulus is so certain who did and who didn't do it, makes me think he should be a suspect  ;)


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 06:04:53 PM
Spendulus is so certain who did and who didn't do it, makes me think he should be a suspect  ;)

Suspect, perhaps. But it is understandable that there will be many knowledgeable people who will not understand that it was an inside job.

A good portion of the people who or are or were military personnel have been indoctrinated (brainwashed) into thinking that the U.S. can do no substantial wrong. They have to be this way because, they were and are part of the U.S, and to think that the U.S. does something substantially bad or wrong is like saying admitting that THEY are doing something substantially bad or wrong. Nobody who is a relatively honest person likes to think that he is bad or wrong.

In Spendy's case, the fact that he is a thinking person, and the fact that he won't accept the idea of an inside job, and the fact that he is so adamantly opposed vocally to the inside job idea, and the fact that he is opposed to the idea without really having anything to back up the things he says when strong evidence is dumped right into his lap so to speak, DOES make him a prime suspect candidate.

Personally, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, it is because of my nature that wants to believe the best in others that I so think. The more Spendy talks, however, the more I am coming to believe that I have been duped grandly into thinking that he has good will and good faith about this whole 9/11 thing.

8)


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: Tusk on April 11, 2016, 07:08:42 PM
Spendulus is so certain who did and who didn't do it, makes me think he should be a suspect  ;)

Suspect, perhaps. But it is understandable that there will be many knowledgeable people who will not understand that it was an inside job.

A good portion of the people who or are or were military personnel have been indoctrinated (brainwashed) into thinking that the U.S. can do no substantial wrong. They have to be this way because, they were and are part of the U.S, and to think that the U.S. does something substantially bad or wrong is like saying admitting that THEY are doing something substantially bad or wrong. Nobody who is a relatively honest person likes to think that he is bad or wrong.

In Spendy's case, the fact that he is a thinking person, and the fact that he won't accept the idea of an inside job, and the fact that he is so adamantly opposed vocally to the inside job idea, and the fact that he is opposed to the idea without really having anything to back up the things he says when strong evidence is dumped right into his lap so to speak, DOES make him a prime suspect candidate.

Personally, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, it is because of my nature that wants to believe the best in others that I so think. The more Spendy talks, however, the more I am coming to believe that I have been duped grandly into thinking that he has good will and good faith about this whole 9/11 thing.

8)

BD, it was just a friendly jab at Spendy. The adage "where there is smoke there is fire" comes to mind with 9/11, there is so much smoke around the subject that I find it hard how anybody can be so certain at this point. James Corbett  does an excellent job of clearing some of that smoke screen, illustrating many of the inconvenient coincidences. For me the most interesting of all is the concerted effort that has been made by authorities to close the the book on it. That in itself tells you there was more going on then they want you to know.


Title: Re: US scholar: Muslims have nothing to do with 9/11
Post by: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 07:16:27 PM
Spendulus is so certain who did and who didn't do it, makes me think he should be a suspect  ;)

Suspect, perhaps. But it is understandable that there will be many knowledgeable people who will not understand that it was an inside job.

A good portion of the people who or are or were military personnel have been indoctrinated (brainwashed) into thinking that the U.S. can do no substantial wrong. They have to be this way because, they were and are part of the U.S, and to think that the U.S. does something substantially bad or wrong is like saying admitting that THEY are doing something substantially bad or wrong. Nobody who is a relatively honest person likes to think that he is bad or wrong.

In Spendy's case, the fact that he is a thinking person, and the fact that he won't accept the idea of an inside job, and the fact that he is so adamantly opposed vocally to the inside job idea, and the fact that he is opposed to the idea without really having anything to back up the things he says when strong evidence is dumped right into his lap so to speak, DOES make him a prime suspect candidate.

Personally, I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, it is because of my nature that wants to believe the best in others that I so think. The more Spendy talks, however, the more I am coming to believe that I have been duped grandly into thinking that he has good will and good faith about this whole 9/11 thing.

8)

BD, it was just a friendly jab at Spendy. The adage "where there is smoke there is fire" comes to mind with 9/11, there is so much smoke around the subject that I find it hard how anybody can be so certain at this point. James Corbett  does an excellent job of clearing some of that smoke screen, illustrating many of the inconvenient coincidences. For me the most interesting of all is the concerted effort that has been made by authorities to close the the book on it. That in itself tells you there was more going on then they want you to know.

"Friendly jab."

This is a forum. As such, we talk about all kinds of things. But there might come a point in time where we start to wonder a little.

8)