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Title: question on local rules
Post by: achow101 on March 31, 2016, 01:49:39 AM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 31, 2016, 02:04:25 AM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?

If you mean, if you post in the OP "All posts must be in this format" or "No posts about this topic will be allowed in this thread" Then yes, that is a local rule to the thread, and people violating that rule will have their posts removed if reported. If you mean to make it complicated and say "all posts after post #3 must be *insert rule*" that is probably a little unnecessary.

That said, keep your request reasonable. If its something like, no posts with the word "the" are allowed in this thread, the local moderator might ignore it. If you want to set a rule that might be hard for a moderator to moderate, or you want to have the posts deleted promptly, I'd recommend making the thread self moderated. But something like the examples I gave above are fine.


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: achow101 on March 31, 2016, 02:10:49 AM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?

If you mean, if you post in the OP "All posts must be in this format" or "No posts about this topic will be allowed in this thread" Then yes, that is a local rule to the thread, and people violating that rule will have their posts removed if reported. If you mean to make it complicated and say "all posts after post #3 must be *insert rule*" that is probably a little unnecessary.
I mean like the thread already has several posts already and I notice a trend in those posts that I don't like, e.g. they are posting about a related topic that I don't want the discussion to be about. Then I post a new post (e.g. post #34) with something like "all posts after this one cannot be about X topic".


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: shorena on March 31, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?

If you mean, if you post in the OP "All posts must be in this format" or "No posts about this topic will be allowed in this thread" Then yes, that is a local rule to the thread, and people violating that rule will have their posts removed if reported. If you mean to make it complicated and say "all posts after post #3 must be *insert rule*" that is probably a little unnecessary.
I mean like the thread already has several posts already and I notice a trend in those posts that I don't like, e.g. they are posting about a related topic that I don't want the discussion to be about. Then I post a new post (e.g. post #34) with something like "all posts after this one cannot be about X topic".

AFAIK you have to lock and restart the thread.


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: hilariousandco on March 31, 2016, 11:47:42 AM
You can't change the rules after the fact for the same reason why you can't self-mod a thread after you created it as it wouldn't be fair. As shorena said, just lock the thread and create a new one (and ideally self-mod it if you want to inact your own rules).


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: Daisy14 on April 01, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?

If you mean, if you post in the OP "All posts must be in this format" or "No posts about this topic will be allowed in this thread" Then yes, that is a local rule to the thread, and people violating that rule will have their posts removed if reported. If you mean to make it complicated and say "all posts after post #3 must be *insert rule*" that is probably a little unnecessary.

That said, keep your request reasonable. If its something like, no posts with the word "the" are allowed in this thread, the local moderator might ignore it. If you want to set a rule that might be hard for a moderator to moderate, or you want to have the posts deleted promptly, I'd recommend making the thread self moderated. But something like the examples I gave above are fine.

In other words I could make myself into something like a mini-moderator. This could really turn into a game, for instance I could go to the offtopic section and write a topic like 'Ten horrible farting experiences' and inform everyone they can only post about their embarrassing farting experiences and their post must include the keyword 'fart' at least three times.

It will be fun in the offtopic section ;D ;) :)


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 01, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
If I create a thread, can I post something like "all posts after this post must follow this new local rule" and will that be enforced by mods as local rules in the Op are?

If you mean, if you post in the OP "All posts must be in this format" or "No posts about this topic will be allowed in this thread" Then yes, that is a local rule to the thread, and people violating that rule will have their posts removed if reported. If you mean to make it complicated and say "all posts after post #3 must be *insert rule*" that is probably a little unnecessary.

That said, keep your request reasonable. If its something like, no posts with the word "the" are allowed in this thread, the local moderator might ignore it. If you want to set a rule that might be hard for a moderator to moderate, or you want to have the posts deleted promptly, I'd recommend making the thread self moderated. But something like the examples I gave above are fine.
Yeah this plus no one is going to find it worth posting in a thread run by a petty tyrant.  Similar to self moderated threads which are even more annoying.


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: achow101 on April 04, 2016, 10:22:03 PM
You can't change the rules after the fact for the same reason why you can't self-mod a thread after you created it as it wouldn't be fair. As shorena said, just lock the thread and create a new one (and ideally self-mod it if you want to inact your own rules).
So I can't do what I did here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423718.msg14425704#msg14425704?


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: shorena on April 05, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
You can't change the rules after the fact for the same reason why you can't self-mod a thread after you created it as it wouldn't be fair. As shorena said, just lock the thread and create a new one (and ideally self-mod it if you want to inact your own rules).
So I can't do what I did here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423718.msg14425704#msg14425704?

-snip-
New local rule: franky1 is banned from this thread from this post onwards.

Nope.


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: betterchoice on April 05, 2016, 01:26:00 PM
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"All posts must be in this format"

so what do you want? and what do you mean?


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: achow101 on April 05, 2016, 01:34:39 PM
You can't change the rules after the fact for the same reason why you can't self-mod a thread after you created it as it wouldn't be fair. As shorena said, just lock the thread and create a new one (and ideally self-mod it if you want to inact your own rules).
So I can't do what I did here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423718.msg14425704#msg14425704?

-snip-
New local rule: franky1 is banned from this thread from this post onwards.

Nope.
Why not? It isn't retroactive.


Title: Re: question on local rules
Post by: shorena on April 05, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
You can't change the rules after the fact for the same reason why you can't self-mod a thread after you created it as it wouldn't be fair. As shorena said, just lock the thread and create a new one (and ideally self-mod it if you want to inact your own rules).
So I can't do what I did here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1423718.msg14425704#msg14425704?

-snip-
New local rule: franky1 is banned from this thread from this post onwards.

Nope.
Why not? It isn't retroactive.

The wording of the rule does not allow it.

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26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.[e]

In the example there is also a quote by theymos that this was mostly replaced by self mod threads. I would think the same applies. If you want a local rule (or a self moderated thread) you have to do so when you create the thread.