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Title: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Devesh on March 31, 2016, 05:46:21 AM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Snail2 on March 31, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.

As I see natural death going to be a rarity or a privilege in the future :/. Governments and insurance companies going to be happy to get rid of the "ballast".


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: mOgliE on March 31, 2016, 10:15:25 AM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.

No. Allmost all hospitals are allowing you to die quickly and without pain. It's the first time I heard of a patient being killed like this without asking it. Of course hospitals are easying your death if you're going to die anyway and you're in pain and you ask them to end your suffering. Though it's not legal in 99% of countries thanks to our shitty religious past and influence...


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Sled on March 31, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
If the doctors received bless from patient to do it then its okay
But in the story it seems the nurse intention is to kill the patient.
Thats murdering not healing and caring.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: BADecker on March 31, 2016, 09:00:19 PM
Does this mean that researchers are not really trying to find ways to extend life > anti-aging? Maybe they are simply playing around in the lab, and keeping the money they get. Neat way to create a job for yourself.

8)


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Gronthaing on March 31, 2016, 09:16:44 PM
Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.

Hospitals can send the patient home. Not do the proper work to find out what is wrong with the person. Not treat them if they know. Just get rid of them. No need to complicate things. That does happen: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2126379/Sentenced-death-old-The-NHS-denies-life-saving-treatment-elderly-mans-chilling-story-reveals.html


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: designerusa on April 01, 2016, 05:42:26 PM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.

this news is too devastating if it is true.. i think this hospice administrators are just bloodsuckers fbı must investigate this incident carefully otherwise society will lose their faith to fbi..


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Sithara007 on April 01, 2016, 05:56:12 PM
Nowadays, it is very common in this world. Nobody have feelings on others and most of the people are greedy. They only concentrate on their profits. My opinion is that our government should impose very strict punishment on them and it may help to reduce the recurrence of such incidents.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 01, 2016, 06:59:47 PM
Reminds me of the 2008 Chinese milk scandal. How low people can stoop to make money? Some people have lost all their human characteristics due to acute greed. Death penalty must be imposed without any exception to avoid the repetition of something like this.

Nowadays, it is very common in this world. Nobody have feelings on others and most of the people are greedy. They only concentrate on their profits. My opinion is that our government should impose very strict punishment on them and it may help to reduce the recurrence of such incidents.

Agreed. Government should impose the toughest of the punishments.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Berns on September 19, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
Such shocking news . Police and doctors are called to protect human life, not to kill people . It is necessary to tighten control over them by the state.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: virtualx on September 19, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.
No, I'm not shocked. Commercial hospitals was a bad idea in the first place. The goal of saving lives does not align with maximizing profit.
 

Nowadays, it is very common in this world. Nobody have feelings on others and most of the people are greedy. They only concentrate on their profits. My opinion is that our government should impose very strict punishment on them and it may help to reduce the recurrence of such incidents.
They should but I don't think they will. If they can profit they will ignore it.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: fancy_pants on September 19, 2016, 09:54:07 PM
An FBI affidavit alleges the owner of a Dallas-area hospice ordered nurses to increase drug dosages for patients to speed their deaths and maximize profits.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-hospice-nurses-told-overdose-patients-speed-death-204141390.html

Do i have to be shocked about this? Ofcourse almost all hospital doing this.

I can't see how a hospice would make more money with a shorter visit. Obamacare pays more for a longer duration.  A hospice is not a hospital,  it is a place to go when you have less than six months to live and no hope of improvement.  It is as near the end as you get.  A typical hospice patient is in pain from multiple organ failure,  may or may not be lucid and 50/50 they are asking the nurse to just end it.  We all will get there some day and there are no exceptions.  Don't assume that extra drugs are for profit.  If it's a hospice, then it's just as likely humane end of life choices that nobody wants to make.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 21, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
Things have changed. We are slowly losing our human emotions. A hundred years ago, incidents such as this one were almost unheard of. But right now, people are only interested in making money. A lot of old age homes and hospitals do follow this methodology, and it is like open secret. But no one cares about elderly people. Caring for them is very expensive nowadays.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: saddampbuh on September 21, 2016, 10:12:13 AM
Things have changed. We are slowly losing our human emotions. A hundred years ago, incidents such as this one were almost unheard of. But right now, people are only interested in making money. A lot of old age homes and hospitals do follow this methodology, and it is like open secret. But no one cares about elderly people. Caring for them is very expensive nowadays.
100 years ago people lived until 65 on average.

there arent enough resources to take care of people from retirement age up until their 80s. i read somewhere that babies born today have a 1/3 chance of living until 100. in the uk the elderly have gone from being the poorest group in society in the early 90s to the wealthiest group at the expense of families with kids and i imagine it is the same in other western countries. they demand that governments pay for their medical care and nursing home bills without being forced to sell their homes so that their 60 year old children can inherit. we can't keep going on this way.


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Xester on September 21, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Yes you are right.  Almost all hospitals are doing the speedy death of their patients.  Especially if they saw that it would be a waste of time if the patient has a little chance of survival.  I do not know if we should be happy with their practice considering that the family will save money if the critical patient would not need to suffer longer and less hospital bills.  But of course it is all about life.  No one should take it away cause it has to be normal. 


Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: tvbcof on September 21, 2016, 03:21:18 PM

Of course this happens.  I've seen it in my own family and would welcome it for myself, to be honest, if I had a painful situation where there is zero hope (e.g., pancreatic cancer.)

It would be interesting to note if there is a correlation between EOL 'assistance' and exhaustion of personal/family assets.



Title: Re: FBI: Hospice nurses told to overdose patients to speed death
Post by: Gronthaing on September 22, 2016, 02:07:46 AM
Things have changed. We are slowly losing our human emotions. A hundred years ago, incidents such as this one were almost unheard of. But right now, people are only interested in making money.

Living in societies that glorify wealth and tell people to "forget all but self" will do that. No surprise there. But i don't know that hearing about more cases like these means more are happening. May be because of better oversight and news reporting only.