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Title: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: xyzxyzxyz on March 31, 2016, 05:54:58 PM
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/03/31/2158024/craig-wrights-upcoming-big-reveal/

Bitcoinland is abuzz with speculation Craig Steven Wright will out himself as Satoshi Nakamoto, the cryptocurrency’s pseudonymous creator, within the next two weeks and that he is looking for backing in his verification from some of the industry’s biggest players.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: AgentofCoin on March 31, 2016, 06:49:34 PM
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/03/31/2158024/craig-wrights-upcoming-big-reveal/

Bitcoinland is abuzz with speculation Craig Steven Wright will out himself as Satoshi Nakamoto, the cryptocurrency’s pseudonymous creator, within the next two weeks and that he is looking for backing in his verification from some of the industry’s biggest players.

I highly doubt he is Satoshi Nakamoto.
The true Satoshi Nakamoto, I do not believe, is the type of person to put on a show as described in this article.

Satoshi Nakamoto originally disappeared because he died or was scared off.
Craig Steven Wright is an attention whore and this is all more likely to be a government op to co-op Bitcoin.



Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: tyz on March 31, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
This message was probably released a day early.  :D

Seriously, i do not expect that he could give proofs which certainly identify him as Satoshi.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 31, 2016, 07:21:18 PM
on the off-chance that they will say that he's really satoshi, I don't think think many bitcoiners will believe it without a solid proof.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: calkob on March 31, 2016, 07:32:42 PM
What sort of proof would be needed to be classed as solid proof that he is satoshi?


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 31, 2016, 07:35:14 PM
I don't see it as a positive at all if Satoshi outs himself.
He can then start to post again, or sell his coins, or influence Bitcoin.

Right now he is infallible as he is unknown.  If he becomes known, it will make people question him.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Wendigo on March 31, 2016, 07:37:37 PM
Okay so from April 7 to April 14 Wright will publicly perform a cryptographic miracle(!!!) which will prove his identity as Satoshi Nakamoto. This will be very interesting to see. By the way Gavin Andresen said he wanted to see the following things being carried out by Wright. I will quote them below for you to read:


Quote
I’d want to see:
    A message signed with the same PGP key Satoshi used back in 2010. (…but his computer could have been hacked)
    A message signed with keys from early Bitcoin blocks (…but his wallet could have been stolen).
    Email or private forum posts he sent to me in 2010 (… but email could have been hacked).
    A conversation about technical stuff, ideally via email, so I can see if it feels like the same person I communicated with in 2010.

I highly doubt Satoshi's email,wallet or computer has been ever hacked into because, after all, he is a cryptographic expert right?  ;D I am looking forward to seeing how this will unfold but honestly I think this is another publicity stunt move by that guy Wright.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 31, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
What sort of proof would be needed to be classed as solid proof that he is satoshi?

TBH I'm not even sure. a year ago I'd say by signing a message with his PGP key, but some people claims that it's backdated.
if it is possible to sign with the address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa that got the genesis block reward, I would go with that.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: cjmoles on March 31, 2016, 08:06:06 PM
What sort of proof would be needed to be classed as solid proof that he is satoshi?

Well, maybe if he released a big chunk of his unspent bitcoin to a charity.  Plus, I would need to see some signatures sent thru multiple known email accounts, and I would need to see some sort of physical verification that he was the true author of the original whitepaper.  After all, there's a Nobel Prize on the table....there's gonna have to be some solid proof!


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: RodeoX on March 31, 2016, 08:14:58 PM
He already had/has a chance to prove himself. Just sign a note with Satoshi's key. If your proof is the "backing of the industries biggest players" then you have not proven anything. It's not like those players have a clue who Satoshi is. Sign a message Craig, it will only take 1min.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Denker on March 31, 2016, 08:20:44 PM
Oh come on!
That guy is a hoax! We all know that.
Never ever is he Satoshi.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: spazzdla on March 31, 2016, 08:22:33 PM
Unless you sign a message, no one gives a fuck what you claim.

The media is retarded and the average person a lemming they will latch on to anything someone with half a brain tells them.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Naughtid on March 31, 2016, 08:41:03 PM
If he can sign a message, he might be Satoshi. If he cannot sign a message, he is definitely not Satoshi.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: nuevo on March 31, 2016, 08:45:14 PM
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/03/31/2158024/craig-wrights-upcoming-big-reveal/

Bitcoinland is abuzz with speculation Craig Steven Wright will out himself as Satoshi Nakamoto, the cryptocurrency’s pseudonymous creator, within the next two weeks and that he is looking for backing in his verification from some of the industry’s biggest players.


If 100 bitcoin wind up in this address 1AW7XkfmrBnYAuByDhdEEsnYWGwDmZhGx1 I'm willing to believe him. Hell if 50 BTC wind up in there I'm willing to believe him. For 5 BTC I'm willing to buy him a beer and he will get a nice fruit basket with a thank you card.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: NorrisK on March 31, 2016, 08:46:09 PM
What sort of proof would be needed to be classed as solid proof that he is satoshi?

Well, maybe if he released a big chunk of his unspent bitcoin to a charity.  Plus, I would need to see some signatures sent thru multiple known email accounts, and I would need to see some sort of physical verification that he was the true author of the original whitepaper.  After all, there's a Nobel Prize on the table....there's gonna have to be some solid proof!

Releasing some of his coins to charity is not the best option here. It would just cause an instant dump to get the charity fiat to spend.

Best and only proof is for him to sign and have a PGP message verified from one of his known accounts. If he manages to pull that off, I'd tend to believe him. Anything else can be faked or easily hacked/cracked into (just look at his mail adresses).

I still think Craig Steven Wrigth is just seeking attention and trying to get people behind his ideas and invest in his things.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Raimonn on March 31, 2016, 08:59:46 PM
Its very difficult to prove who is , if he/she don't want to reveal its identity. All are suppositions, never a signed message of a know bitcoin address nor a signed pgp message.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: franky1 on March 31, 2016, 09:01:38 PM
the guy is a hoax.. the only reason he wants to pretend to be satoshi, is because he ran a financial scam to create alot of fiat based on a contract that supposedly contained bitcoins as collateral.

now he has to try keeping the ruse going.. not only to reduce his prison sentence but many other negative things happening in his life.

all i can say is all of these industrial experts would probably be bribed to say its satoshi..

but signing a key, whether its pgp or bitcoin address.. is the only real way.

he does not need to sign contracts and NDA's he just needs to move one of the coins from the known satoshi addresses, or signs a message.. thats it.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: countryfree on March 31, 2016, 09:47:40 PM
Okay so from April 7 to April 14 Wright will publicly perform a cryptographic miracle(!!!) which will prove his identity as Satoshi Nakamoto. This will be very interesting to see. By the way Gavin Andresen said he wanted to see the following things being carried out by Wright. I will quote them below for you to read:


Quote
I’d want to see:
    A message signed with the same PGP key Satoshi used back in 2010. (…but his computer could have been hacked)
    A message signed with keys from early Bitcoin blocks (…but his wallet could have been stolen).
    Email or private forum posts he sent to me in 2010 (… but email could have been hacked).
    A conversation about technical stuff, ideally via email, so I can see if it feels like the same person I communicated with in 2010.

I highly doubt Satoshi's email,wallet or computer has been ever hacked into because, after all, he is a cryptographic expert right?  ;D I am looking forward to seeing how this will unfold but honestly I think this is another publicity stunt move by that guy Wright.

Correct, if he is who he claims to be, it should be very easy to prove. He shall own the first BTC ever mined, or that kind of stuff. So you wonder why he hadn't used them already. then what I don't understand is how he could be in financial trouble. Hey, if the guy was the real Satoshi, I believe he kept many BTC for himself, when it was possible to mine on a home computer.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: DimensionZ on March 31, 2016, 10:24:25 PM
What will happen if he fails to prove he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? Can he be held responsible for misinformation and spreading lies in the Bitcoin community? I think his reputation will be finished if his claims don't turn out to be true. So many people want to be celebrities by claiming to be Satoshi it's so funny.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: bitboy11 on April 01, 2016, 12:04:29 AM
Considering that it is already April Fool's Day in many countries, I say "Nice One". ;D


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: magemist on April 01, 2016, 12:22:43 AM
What sort of proof would be needed to be classed as solid proof that he is satoshi?
A signed message from his fat bitcoin wallet  ;)


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: owm123 on April 01, 2016, 12:29:52 AM
If he can sign a message, he might be Satoshi. If he cannot sign a message, he is definitely not Satoshi.

Yes, he and this "news" are very legit. Its 1 April after all, so we know this is "legit news" day \s.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 01, 2016, 12:34:35 AM
Okay so from April 7 to April 14 Wright will publicly perform a cryptographic miracle(!!!) \

Hilarious...cryptographic miracle.  Didn't we go through this last year with this guy?  April Fools for sure.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: ImI on April 01, 2016, 12:48:27 AM
What will happen if he fails to prove he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? Can he be held responsible for misinformation and spreading lies in the Bitcoin community? I think his reputation will be finished if his claims don't turn out to be true. So many people want to be celebrities by claiming to be Satoshi it's so funny.

What will happen if DOES sign those addresses? Will you be able to accept the facts or will you try to deny? I guess even if he signs those keys we will still have some folks staying in denial.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: ImI on April 01, 2016, 12:52:16 AM
Oh come on!
That guy is a hoax! We all know that.
Never ever is he Satoshi.

have you seen him talking at conferences? he pretty easily dominated everyone at the podium (mostly he was connected via video) and i noticed some very surprised faces of well known bitcoin devs as he talked about technical stuff and future vision for bitcoin as a whole.

its anything but "a known hoax".


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Nomad88 on April 01, 2016, 12:55:37 AM
If Satoshi is one person, i really respect him more everyday. Creating something that amazing and not revealing himself inspite all these people trying to take credit for his work. He must be a very wise man. Perhaps more than we often think.

Regarding the article, we all know who he is or who he is not.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: exstasie on April 01, 2016, 01:18:59 AM
I sure hope it's a bunch of fluff. Satoshi's anonymity is a great strength for bitcoin. Compare to Vitalik Buterin, who is Ethereum's biggest central point of failure and cooptation.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: lolgato1 on April 01, 2016, 01:24:54 AM
I highly doubt Criag Wright is Satoshi even if he was he would keep himself anonymous. It will also be pointless to show up now as there is a lot of bitcoin haters around. He would probably not reveal himself until it is a big thing and even then he still may not show him/her self.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: MingLee on April 01, 2016, 01:28:18 AM
I'm doubtful that Craig Wright really is Satoshi, but I guess it is always possible.

We'll see, but I almost want to say that it s just someone cashing in on some potential fame.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: ImI on April 01, 2016, 01:32:30 AM
I highly doubt Criag Wright is Satoshi even if he was he would keep himself anonymous. It will also be pointless to show up now as there is a lot of bitcoin haters around. He would probably not reveal himself until it is a big thing and even then he still may not show him/her self.

its highly likely that all this bitcoin civilwar and folks acting like the keeper of the holy bitcoin grail provoked him to not longer stay silent. it must be pretty hard to watch all those discussions and being forced to stay silent.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: ensjovis on April 01, 2016, 02:23:00 AM
I should read more about this but just want to remember being correct on this one, Craig Steven Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. T-shirts are already ordered and we're planning a big party for the upcoming rally.

Maybe he can dump some coins also so people can buy cheap.


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: bitboy11 on April 02, 2016, 01:38:37 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Craig Steven Wright reveals home-made video from 2008 calling himself Satoshi Nakamoto while visiting the Broadway Show - Mamma Mia!


Title: Re: Financial Times: Satoshi = Craig Steven Wright reveal coming 7-14 April 2016
Post by: Hirose UK on April 02, 2016, 04:16:41 AM
on the off-chance that they will say that he's really satoshi, I don't think think many bitcoiners will believe it without a solid proof.
I also will not believe it without a solid proof. You know, we just can guess someone is Satoshi because he is smart, but that's not really a proof. we need more.
but I'm wondering why Satoshi would announce that he is the real one.