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I need a small loan of 0.021, can pay back 0.022 tomorrow, need it for a domain name

Post your wallet i will fill it

Thanks

13QMr4hcBsP3iNotNyKFefxJNkUbYEnw5V

Sending in max 5 min my wallet re-sync

Pls include the txid on repayment...

Send you the btc please confirm !

Transaction ID: d5e3a27fe28784d3559ee0103d72aae0ec08f626d152aa4e7ee555195f107631

Ok got it thanks

Perfect please pay back to the same wallet as the funds came from

Ok will do and a forum moderator deleted a post on here lol.

This is a very bad procedure to use when lending your coins because it will reduce the privacy of both you and the borrower. There is also a good chance that you could receive two payments to the same address, but you will be unsure which person sent you the BTC, which will cause problems.

A best practice would be to post a unique address for each person to send to that will eventually owe you money. :)

kindly remember to repay the loan today please.

I hope you will get the loan repay today from OP , but i suggest you not to lend anyone without a signed message as some hackers can steal password and can take loan on real account holder's behalf. Signing a message from old address will help them to make it hard.

Thank you for this warning, i will follow your rules the next time i will lend someone.

hello he is right, if it was a large loan, but on the other hand I have a real hard password that will take over 500 years to crack, so nothing to worry about on my end and will send you that payment in a few minutes.  Im a bit late, so I will send you 0.0003 extra for it

Define "a bit late"

Ok Im late by 1 hour and 25 minutes, I meant sorry.

Thats fine man :-)

https://blockchain.info/address/1AvZyyE5tp3eR5bc3vAi5Hkwgb8mf3BqYW

Sent please confirm, then I will leave you feedback, thank you.

oh darn I sent to the wrong address

Will fix it

Sure you send to the wrong adresse....

Scammer for 10$

I've seen people scam for 0.0002 before, and actually run away with it. I have seen V. Lace trade before, he always makes his end of the deal, but there's always a first time.

If he sent it to someone else's address, then he'll have to contact them to recover his coins. Give him a day or two. He might even give you more for being late :)

I told him to PM me the right address, also he has a scam accusation on him right now.  I want to make sure I send it the right one.

Im asking him to send me his BTC address but he is acting very irrational.  I sent it to the wrong address and want to make sure I get it right this time.

How would an open scam accusation prevent you from returning the coins you owe?

I think he clearly said where he wants the funds to be repaid.

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This loan was already filled.
Unless you want to encourage OP to default on this loan (and hence scam himself), I don't see any reason for your post.

https://blockchain.info/address/1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj
he finally sent me his BTC address and he sent me a bunch of negs, I returned what was agreed but I was going to give him extra BTC but since he acted very childish Ill only honor the interest.

i not send you any wallet scammer

Here you go http://imgur.com/C84yDU7

more http://imgur.com/ISH0AEH

who is the scammer now?

Ok guys someone should help those guys here and see who's the real scammer.

If OP is the scammer, he sent the btc to the "wrong" address (maybe his own address). Now OP say that @bleachedno has finally gave him the btc address and he say that he sent the btc. But it can be is own address again, since @bleachedno says that he didn't gave him a address.

Now if @bleachedno is the scammer, OP accidentally sent the BTC to the wrong address and he finally sent to the new address but @bleachedno wants that OP pays the loan for the second time.


Who will we trust? Someone can verify this situation?

EDIT: OP your screenshots are useless maybe.. since you can inspect element easily. Well can someone verify this please?

Seriously don't you see how he acted throughout the process, it is common sense,  Why would I scam for such a petty amount?  I have even done BTC trades with paypal accounts.  I can give access to Tomatoecage to my wallet and Bitcointalk account to proove it, is he willing to do the same?

OP either reports the PM to a Mod, kindly asks for verification of its authenticity in this thread,
or allows someone trusted to access their account and confirm the authenticity of said PM that way.

He can't ulitmatively prove he didn't send a (or that exact) PM, as PMs are easily deleted from the outbox. Even if someone was to access his account, what would it prove?
However, what should be easy to verify is whether or not you did receive said PM. Someone can access your account and confirm what you say.

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@OP: If this PM is real, take some advice from me for your next loan:
When dealing with someone you don't know, it's always better to state all terms of the loan out in public, with others to witness the terms, addresses etc, so messups like this don't happen.

Quote for future reference...http://archive.is/hmuyj

Well man, i've seen scumbags to scam for much less.
I don't usually pick a side when i'm dealing with this kind of situation. But since @OP has 2 negative trusts (and both are from today), i trust more in you than him, but still not 100% sure.


Yes, @OP you should ask for a mod or some high rep user to verify your account if you don't mind.

Maybe both of them are the scammer. @bleachedno is a scammer for sure now we only have to verify the OP.

I suggest the OP provide the full chat history between him and @bleachedno.

I suspected from day 1 that you will turn out to be a scammer sooner or later.The typical scammer posting.The feedback you left on his profiles proves how ignorant you're.By posting such comments and spamming the system,you are only looking for a PermaBan.You recently stared a self moderated thread for selling the same goods you have been accused off and then your tantrums about doing whatever you want despite of the feedbacks.Just letting you know,your position to trade in this forum including your credibility is over,the negative trust is enough proof for anyone to not to trade with you.Retaliating is just going to make situations worse.What next ? You're going to trust spam my profile now ?

yeah I think the member should allow access to his account, to prove I am lying

You should make screenshots of the full chat history not just copy the texts.

Am i blind or is it my mobile? Tx of repayment?

https://blockchain.info/address/1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj

look at that guys history compared too mine and how he talks to me, nor did he come back after he got his btc as well. 

Okay fund were send from 1Q5DQ4NVMMN2yBDyFHnHNbj7GVNfU9Pfc6 to 13QMr4hcBsP3iNotNyKFefxJNkUbYEnw5V (tx (https://blockchain.info/tx/d5e3a27fe28784d3559ee0103d72aae0ec08f626d152aa4e7ee555195f107631))

V.Lace sent from 13QMr4hcBsP3iNotNyKFefxJNkUbYEnw5V to 1AvZyyE5tp3eR5bc3vAi5Hkwgb8mf3BqYW  (tx (https://blockchain.info/de/tx/58ab04ac8c0bf9308c6cbe625087a7f4dbb2602a3648bc7f612023e3d593b40e))

While posting that he resend he noticed that he sent wrong, note post is not edited. http://archive.is/CQ446#65%

Things to note:

Lender did ask for aloan a while ago but was pissed when getting some hints how to do it right.
Later lender is able to give a loan, and requests to send money back to the address he sent from. You simply dont do that, like QS suggested.

Lender sent V.Lace a PM to repay to 1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj this happend here tx (https://blockchain.info/de/tx/726f4611f41a64c64dd9d42da59c537ed033d68a52aa68ab2e1763e2ea21b5d0)

According to this: http://imgur.com/C84yDU7 1EaZ6MR5GmBc2rw7mYoxLPRBRFW7Zzscsj is the lenders address.

If the PM is still in V.Laces inbox i think the case is pretty obvious.

Did i get something wrong?

Nope, that's the situation.
However, none was yet abled to verify the PM. Instead of granting access to their account, V.Lance wanted the lender to grant someone access to the lenders account,
not understanding that this will be completely useless.

lol look at the feedback he left me when I commented on this post.Truly shows his character .

https://i.imgur.com/zETP5Fy.png

Untrusted feedback should be removed from moderators because this case show it once more some users are just abusing the system but no default trust just ignore this idiot he will stop it if you stop to feed him

Ask V.Lance to provide screenshots of the full chat history between him and bleachedno. I feel he is reluctant to do this.

I don't care for a screenshot. I want verification by either a moderator or someone trusted who gets to access the account and see the PMs themselves.

That's the best way. However, screenshots of the full chat history is an alternatative if you can't find others to verify for him.

I am not sure what the question is. The OP borrowed money, and was given an address to repay to publicly. The OP has not yet sent any BTC to that address. The OP claims to have received an alternate address to repay to, however has not shown any solid proof of receiving that address from the lender. The lender is claiming that he has not received any BTC from the OP.

I don't see how this can be any more of a clear cut case. The OP can either repay to the public repayment address, report the PM from the lender that contains the repayment address to a moderator who can post it here, or can provide a GPG signed address from the lender's known GPG key that contains instructions to repay to the address he sent to. Otherwise he has not repaid the lender anything.

Yeah I have the messages still, you want to check my account?  I can give you access

Luptin I know you are probably dying to see me fail and I will give access to whyfight to confirm this, but if that scammer vanished and did not rebuttal back then isn't it obvious, like when someone goes to court and does not show up, they default the case?

okay, i would agree to have a look

Yeah, I'm on a personal crusade against you. Why again? I can't recall to know you.

Go ahead and do so, that's what I asked for hours ago.

It's not that obvious after all.

you left me a feedback for actually no good reason at all.  You really should not stick your neck out of things.  I surprise you do not know how to use common sense.  did you even check trade history vs the history of my lender?

I had a look into V.Lace's in and outbox and it is like he claims it happend. he admitted he sent to the wrong address, lender got mad but finally sent an address. its the one v.lace sent coins too (with second tx)

outbox 1 http://prntscr.com/anahzi
outbox 2 http://prntscr.com/anaien

inbox 1 http://prntscr.com/anaj54
inbox 2 http://prntscr.com/anajgj

Besides the fact that you should not do something like this in private. i cant find any wrong doings by V.Lace

I don't care about history, I'm more concern with the facts I can see.

Speaking of which, since wwf can confirm that your story checks out, I've removed my feedback.

If I were you, I'd take that advice to the heart.

Yes it was kinda suspicious that he was not communicating in public as well, he did not respond much to the messages in the thread. he just kept bashing me as a scammer.
Lesson learned from this.  I will sign messages and make sure he post his address on the thread.

Now that you say it, I remember you.
You're the one who left me negative feedback for being an alt account of mexxer-2 ;D

yes because you both accused me of the same thing, and the fact that you was not involved in the thread made me highly suspicious.  Look I am not a scammer, I been here for a quite a while and Im also member of the P2P platform with higher trade history then I have on here.  I really want to put that info, but seeing how many people on this website are looking to bash one another, make me weary about doing so.  This site is nice but it really does nothing for me much.  Thanks to people like whywefight who is rational, is the reason why I stick around.  I deleted it anyway I still believe your both of the same, you both stick to each other like glue

And the fact that I call out something strange in a neutral comment makes me a scammer in what way?

Being here long doesn't mean you won't start scamming at some point. We've seen enough.

You had me negged for quite some time, did I "bash" you?

Haven't seen him in 3 days now (I think). Give him my best regards, if you do.

Yes making accusations like this at the same time you did, means your probably a scammer gaining the rep of the community to scam them later, see the same thing can be the same about you, I am making an example.  I bet my money if I was the one accusing Beach of scamming me, would had looked the other way.  Why did you not ask for proof to see the account of an member who has tons of valid complaints?  Is this one of your alt accounts your operating with?  Wait do not tell me you can prove it, because you cant if you have been using an Proxy IP address.  I will close this thread because, I had proved my case and let this be the last time you come at me Lupus.  Next time evaluate things with caution.  Its not wise not to do so.