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I made a separate account on Bitcoin Forum and got the following message:


Bitcoin Forum > Remove Proxyban

Your IP address has previously been used for evil on this forum, or it is a known proxy/VPN/Tor exit node, so you are required to pay a small fee before you are able to post messages or send PMs. You can still use all of the read-only features without paying.

Your account contains 1.03 units of evil. To atone, you must pay a total of 0.00004155 bitcoins (0.04155 mBTC; 4155 satoshi). Pay to the address 1Nq1RGJReRpxzKTo56jbSS6RXAXihSUUwZ. Once you have paid the full amount, wait a few seconds and then reload this page. If the fee is so small that your wallet is unable to send it, you can send any larger amount, though you will not be refunded the difference.

Alternatively, any forum staff member and some other notable members can manually whitelist you. Paying the fee is probably easier/quicker, though.

If you don't have any bitcoins, you can get small amounts of free bitcoins using the sites listed here. It is recommended that you give the free bitcoin sites the address listed above. Do not collect money in your own wallet and then send the bitcoins to the forum -- this will likely result in significant network fees.

If you find any bugs in this system, email pbbugs-...@.... For example, send email here if your payment is not registered an hour after sending it. You will be permanently banned if you send email here requesting free whitelisting.


Is this legit and why would I get this?  I thought we could have more than one account on Bitcoin Forum.  What is proxy/VPN/Tor exit node?

Pretty straightforward, isn't it?

Yes, it's legit. Have a read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1215937.0

You can.

Yes, it is legit. Yes you can have multiple accounts here. You get this because the IP address of your computer has evil points. Evil points are assigned to IP address ranges based on the behavior of previous accounts that were created by or used that IP address.

These three are various methods that people use to hide their IP address. The users data is routed through another server and the data appears to come from the server's IP address.

How is it straightforward?  I haven't used an account for evil.  The only thing I have done on this site is post comments.

I have never tried to route data through another server and I don't even know how to.  So I wonder if my account was hacked.

It doesn't say "your account" though, does it? It clearly says "Your IP address".

Probably not.
Maybe you got a dynamic IP address from your ISP and are just unlucky to be assigned one with evil points on it.
Or you got a neighboring address and were assigned evil points for that reason.

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Try to register an account with it.

Can I somewhere find out how much given IP has evil points?

So you are saying I might have to pay for something evil someone else did?  Also what I don't get is that the other account I made got that message, but this account didn't and I'm using the same IP address.  So why the difference?

I don't know what lutpin was saying. but yes, you might.


that happened to me too. unless you're using a VPN, you can randomly get evil points because:

or your ISP changed your IP to an evil one.

Yes, or you just register an account using another IP address, or you just don't register another account at all.

A lot of things can happen between February 15th and March 31st.

Are you saying that they can only do a proxyban on a brand new account?  So it won't ever affect this account?

How evil could it be if they only want less than 2 cents?  I mean, what's the point?  If someone did something evil why such a small punishment?

It's only affecting the registration, nothing more. Evil points won't affect any already registred accounts.

It scales. Doesn't matter for 1 account maybe, but if you're registering 100 or more accounts (like the spam/fud accounts for ether or knc for example), that's something different.

The proxyban fee only applies to creating new accounts. You will never have to pay the fee for using an account.

It is to prevent spammers from creating more and more accounts.

So the payment only covers that one account?  If I (or someone else at the IP address) wanted to make another account I (or they) would have to pay again?

Yes, as long as you register it from the same IP address and the address still has evil points tied to it (afaik evil points vanish over time, don't know details though).

I went to the link you suggested and it does mention that the evil points can fade over time.  The extra account I made was one I made because I came up with a clever/interesting account name that I thought I could sell at some point.  I don't even need to use the account.  So theoretically, could I just wait it out and the evil points will fade away?

I think the sum is now fixed, since it's tied to the evil points at the moment the account was created.
However, I'm not sure about that, so if anyone knows better (possibly with a source), feel free to correct me.

As others have said, yes it is real, and its purpose is as an anti bot measure. Units of evil accumulate when an account created by a certain IP is banned, so in theory if someone creates 100 accounts, tries to spam, and they get banned, the IPs they used are hit with units of evil. Rather than disallowing people to create accounts via Tor or VPN, this system was introduced. Essentially, it is very inexpensive for users to create a single account (you said around 2 cents in your case) but should someone want to create 1000 accounts, it starts to add up. As designed, it is made so that someone could easily collect the funds needed to register an account via Tor/VPN etc just hitting a couple of faucets. But expensive for those that want to test the moderator response time with ads and other annoying spam posts. More Units of evil = higher cost to register the account.

This is the 1st time I'm hearing about this.
This forum is one strange cat! :D

Indeed! One strange cat indeed!!



@ OP, just log in with VPN. Clear all data history, cookies etc, restart device, restart browser and sign in with vpn. Don't pay any fee.

well he is using proxy , proxy is like a VPN , he needs to use local IP . bytheways its realy cheap for unblock your IP , since theymos is a good guy



i got some notice like this month ago , i should pay 1btc+  or i miss read , ::)

hmm last i checked a couple montsh ago they STOPPED doing that.. i guess theymos put that back in  :D

balance.ninja gave me the following picture on Poloniex 10/14/2014
(save it while you can because Staff keep removing it after - it needs to be edited to be postable again later)

http://i67.tinypic.com/2l8yyqp.jpg

EDIT:
Well i checked the old URL and it seems fine weird..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;unproxyban

It's probably best to just pay the fee since it is such a small amount.  It seems unfair since someone else may have done something wrong with the IP address, but there's not much you can do except pay or just don't use that account.

Thanks for the help everyone.  I am going to pay the 2 cents so I can use the account since it is such a little amount.