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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: iambaboon on February 09, 2013, 01:38:02 PM



Title: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 09, 2013, 01:38:02 PM
In order for us all to get a better grasp and gather some evidence on the size of the CryptoXChange scam, please provide some information on the size of your claims with CryptoXChange, something like:
- money owed to you - USD or BTC
- CryptoXChange BTC address used to deposit funds
- date you requested your refund /sum
- money received

I'll start first:
- 4129 USD
- 15G2Bg9pTTx2ue3AJGsiKSMniS8Yi1yzKy
- 10/30/2012 / 4129 USD
- 0

UPDATES:

Damages (so far):  about 101 000 AUD/103 000 USD


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: pumpkin105 on February 09, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
-18376 AUD
-15sm9DZHc9GTNSoqit2d6tRfBvgirHjyGq
-12/18/2012 via letter
-0


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: dadj on February 09, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
- 250.3815 bitcoins equivalent to $5795.93 AUD at current market rate
- 16WL17GSdyigppmjFGxzQf6KFayKZ4wXWV
- 28/10/2012
- 0
Have sent statutory demand first then letter of demand, though there may have been a mix up in the mail with the letter of demand. Currently sorting this out.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on February 10, 2013, 02:54:37 AM
-18376 AUD
-15sm9DZHc9GTNSoqit2d6tRfBvgirHjyGq
-12/18/2012 via letter
-0

Ouch!!


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: RedBill on February 11, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
- 4021 AUD
- 1C698hz3QV1c5U5b3gGF4cRuc4N9EX2ewF
- 6 Nov 12 $861, 15 Nov 12 $1557, 19 Nov 12 $1603
- 0 AUD of owed (Previously AUD900 withdrawn OK)


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on February 11, 2013, 05:02:50 PM
- 5758 USD + 250 AUD + 0.25 BTC
- No idea
- 12/6 (was trying to set up a bank account so I could actually make a withdrawal)
- 0

If someone local intends to pursue them in court, I'd be happy to talk about assigning my debt for some percentage of what is recovered.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Papina on February 11, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
- AU$1668.09
- No idea, i've wiped my hands of bitcoin for good
- 6 Nov 2012
- $0


I would love to know if anyone has had any responses via letter or email or otherwise. I'm almost inclined to go for a drive and meet this scammer face to face


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 11, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
Guys, check your (MtGox, personal etc.) wallets, there should be a record of the sums sent to CryptoXChange. The address you sent to is the deposit address. Without that proof, you're just helping calculate a total loss, but I don't think you have any claim.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on February 12, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
Guys, check your (MtGox, personal etc.) wallets, there should be a record of the sums sent to CryptoXChange. The address you sent to is the deposit address. Without that proof, you're just helping calculate a total loss, but I don't think you have any claim.

I do arbitrage trading, so I regularly transfer coins all over the place.  No way I could tell which addresses were for CryptoXChange with any reliability.

I do have detailed e-mail records of all my trades (hundreds, probably thousands) there from my trading bot though (date/time, amount of trade, BTC/USD balance at the time).


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Papina on February 12, 2013, 07:03:39 PM
Guys, check your (MtGox, personal etc.) wallets, there should be a record of the sums sent to CryptoXChange. The address you sent to is the deposit address. Without that proof, you're just helping calculate a total loss, but I don't think you have any claim.

I have an email trail of the transfer to bank account request, I have copies of all real money documentation being sent to them. I dont need a bitcoin address to make a valid claim. It won't matter in any case since they have done a runner, and nobody is getting paid back anything.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 12, 2013, 07:31:09 PM
You're wrong. If you follow the bitcoins, they are being used as we speak. The funds, bitcoin or USD, do not just 'dissappear'.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 17, 2013, 10:10:28 AM
28 BTC and 8000 NMC lost. Oh well, not like it was very much. I'm so used to being fucked over by bitcoin businesses I don't even care anymore.

BTW: Anybody seen my full one-year subscription to Bitcoin Magazine that I paid for over a year ago but never received? Oh, while you’re at it, look for my GLBSE shares too. Maybe their hiding in the same place!


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: HappyScamp on February 17, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
It's troubling to see all this.  I am new to this scene, and am looking at making my first buy.

But sheesh!  everywhere I turn there have been troubles.

MTgox accounts hacked (probably key-logger software).
Coinbase  super slow delivery issues in recent days.
this one...

I am wondering if I should just stay clear.

what are people's recent experiences with btc-e?

TIA


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: BigFigurez on February 18, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
It's troubling to see all this.  I am new to this scene, and am looking at making my first buy.

But sheesh!  everywhere I turn there have been troubles.

MTgox accounts hacked (probably key-logger software).
Coinbase  super slow delivery issues in recent days.
this one...

I am wondering if I should just stay clear.

what are people's recent experiences with btc-e?

TIA

BTC4Amazon is a good person to deal with. If you have Skype his Skype is BTC4Amazon  - Personally trusted him with 300+ BTC


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Tommo on February 18, 2013, 03:31:05 PM
About $5500 stolen off me.

I'm almost inclined to go for a drive and meet this scammer face to face

Haha not a bad idea :P

Anyone contacted law enforcement yet?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: mc_lovin on February 18, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
This saddens me.  Huge numbers being posted here.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 19, 2013, 11:50:27 PM
About 41000 AUD so far, if I calculated correctly.
Come on, people, I'm sure there are persons out there who still wait for their money, sent a letter of demand and received no answer.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: xorglub on February 21, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Add around 500 USD + 500 AUD to that... :(


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 21, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
deego, your was 60k, or total for all here ?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Wagamama on February 22, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
Has anyone filed a petition for a winding-up order?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on February 27, 2013, 10:24:16 PM
Wagamama, please explain what that is.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Wagamama on February 28, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
Wagamama, please explain what that is.

Perhaps, this link will explain clearly.
http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/2239/statutory-demands-and-winding-up-applications-150-.aspx


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Wagamama on March 14, 2013, 04:07:53 AM

Same here. Sent a letter a month ago. Somehow, hasn't been delivered yet. Let's coordinate on the next action.



I am looking at filing a winding-up order but upfront fees are high (3K-5K) as per my solicitor who did the stat demand. Maybe we can join forces in filing the application? not sure how though. Or any suggestion on the next action?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: xorglub on March 14, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
Centralize the action by rounding up as many victims as possible and getting everyone to assist in some way.
Or go the opposite way and put up a bounty...

Either way I'd be happy to even get half of my funds back - the other half can go towards making it possible.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on March 14, 2013, 04:17:49 PM

Either way I'd be happy to even get half of my funds back - the other half can go towards making it possible.


I'll second that, but not too keen on throwing more good money after bad. 


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: shad0wbitz on March 14, 2013, 06:36:27 PM

Either way I'd be happy to even get half of my funds back - the other half can go towards making it possible.


I'll second that, but not too keen on throwing more good money after bad. 

Are the dickholes of CryptoXcam still active in the community?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: shad0wbitz on March 14, 2013, 06:39:59 PM

Either way I'd be happy to even get half of my funds back - the other half can go towards making it possible.


I'll second that, but not too keen on throwing more good money after bad. 

Are the dickholes of CryptoXcam still active in the community?

Mahin Gupta is one of the scammers, what was Kent lastname, and anybody knows where he lives?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: iambaboon on March 14, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
shad0wbitz:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126552.0

Were you affected by CryptoX ?


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Tommo on April 03, 2013, 12:45:06 PM

Same here. Sent a letter a month ago. Somehow, hasn't been delivered yet. Let's coordinate on the next action.


I am looking at filing a winding-up order but upfront fees are high (3K-5K) as per my solicitor who did the stat demand. Maybe we can join forces in filing the application? not sure how though.

Does your solicitor have any ideas? I'd be interested in some sort of class action against these scum.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: Papina on April 09, 2013, 01:20:15 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3732468.htm

not sure if this link works outside Australia


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: dadj on April 09, 2013, 02:45:29 AM
Everyone affected please make a general complaint here:

https://www.cas.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/icms-public/complaint/registration/newComplaint.sjsp?complaintType=general

Thanks!


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: synapse on April 09, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
Just watched that report, I'm surprised the ABC actually ran a story on it.
At least this might get some more attention now.

I lost 25 BTC at the time which I exchanged for $325AUD.
Don't I feel stupid now considering the recent price hike.

Has anyone else filled in the form for a complaint to NSW Fairtrading? What info did you provide? I wonder how many complaints they would need to look into this.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: dadj on April 09, 2013, 11:22:47 AM
Just watched that report, I'm surprised the ABC actually ran a story on it.
At least this might get some more attention now.

I lost 25 BTC at the time which I exchanged for $325AUD.
Don't I feel stupid now considering the recent price hike.

Has anyone else filled in the form for a complaint to NSW Fairtrading? What info did you provide? I wonder how many complaints they would need to look into this.

I filled it out - just wrote in the detail section approximately how much my bitcoin was worth back then and how much it's worth now - that i was actively trading them - and info from the CXC crooks thread - all ways electrical - colin armitt / ken armitt

I think they would need at least 100 complaints to take this seriously - They currently get complaints in the thousands for other companies.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: btcnut on April 09, 2013, 11:49:49 AM
- 38.9 BTC which was abotut $450 at the time. Now ~$7000
- Funds sent to 1F2BWZ6oAwyCzM9mLbhfCxd1ysQKUMCuVM
- 11th December 2012
- $0 / 0 BTC recieved

Happy to join in any joint action


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on April 09, 2013, 03:03:56 PM
Just submitted my complaint to the NSW.  We'll see if it does any good.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: repentance on April 09, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3732468.htm

not sure if this link works outside Australia

Just searched ASIC insolvency notices - no liquidator has been appointed yet.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on May 06, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
For what it's worth, got a response from NSW:

Quote
Dear Mr XXXXXXX

I refer to your correspondence dated 10 April 2013 regarding Crypto X Change.

NSW Fair Trading's attempts to contact the trader have been unsuccessful as the trader could not be located at the address provided nor traced from further investigations of other locations.  Therefore, mediation of your complaint has not been possible.

In the circumstance, you may wish to contact the Australia Security and Investment Commission (ASIC) in regards to the conduct of Kenseycol Pty Ltd . ASIC is responsible for the conduct and registration of companies in Australia and their web address is www.asic.gov.au.

Alternatively, you may wish to obtain your own independent legal advice regarding your rights and options in this matter.

NSW Fair Trading will retain the information you provided on the complaints management database which is used to monitor marketplace trends and practices, and assist with the development of consumer protection strategies.

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

Yours sincerely


Grant Blizzard
NSW Fair Trading


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: zero3112 on May 07, 2013, 04:02:02 AM
Omg you guys had so much money in that exchange what where you thinking? It would be worth picking up an old computer or getting a computer someone is throwing away and setting up a clean linux machine. This would be for storing your bitcoins and is safe from every day user use.

I takes some time to setup but its well worth it.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: epetroel on May 07, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
Omg you guys had so much money in that exchange what where you thinking? It would be worth picking up an old computer or getting a computer someone is throwing away and setting up a clean linux machine. This would be for storing your bitcoins and is safe from every day user use.

I takes some time to setup but its well worth it.

Can't speak for others, but I was doing arbitrage trading which requires me to keep a balance at the exchange.  I've pretty much chalked up my loss as a cost of doing business and moved on, but I'm sure others lost a lot more.


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: ravinp2000 on September 21, 2014, 03:00:06 PM
I have opened an account with CryptoXchange with my other e-mail address (pmravindran20@rediffmail.com) in 2012 & my Bitcoin wallet is: 1CWxx7y9cYHC13zuQYDiZBBgNW6vU4Z6CR.
They have also verified my Bank account of India.
In September 2012, I have received 90.33BTC and by CryptoXchange, I kept this money with them.
However all of a sudden they closed down without paying up equivalent amount or returning my Bitcoins and my many attempts to contact them have failed and all my mails got bounced.
It all started by blocking my access to my account.
Later to my horror, I found from google search that my own money, 90.33BTC have been stolen by someone intentionally, as below:
 
Address1CWxx7y9cYHC13zuQYDiZBBgNW6vU4Z6CR
Hash1607e5426c9712b36628984c0282310da08811937a9
Transactions2 (1 in, 1 out)


Total BTC In90.33000000
Total BTC Out90.33000000
Current Balance0.00000000
Formats[json]
Transactions
 
TxBlockAddressTypeValueTotal
c23400c882460658a33603780dcd640b87f769427fef364afc98d1a1a4e7a3751976801Kadtpf4J AWQKwmQL7PSNs1bajPLDFwMfd
->90.3300000090.33000000
798b331c72b0f2f263ed5020bf72bda82cc6888000c3f06a94ed61aca7f35bf4197819
1AgtGHvLnefe2f4B2BrwT5AtUoa1qR48t5
(32.48000000)
1DDNfTh4C129Jv6UQhYCWCDCqV8XrCHNaV
(57.85000000)
 
This is very clear that CryptoXchange started operation with a criminal mindset to rob their un-suspecting clients and I am a victim.
Is there a way out to get my money back ?
Please help.
 
Thanks,
PM.Ravindran
Mumbai - India


Title: Re: CryptoXChange affected user list
Post by: QuestionAuthority on September 21, 2014, 03:08:32 PM
I have opened an account with CryptoXchange with my other e-mail address (pmravindran20@rediffmail.com) in 2012 & my Bitcoin wallet is: 1CWxx7y9cYHC13zuQYDiZBBgNW6vU4Z6CR.
They have also verified my Bank account of India.
In September 2012, I have received 90.33BTC and by CryptoXchange, I kept this money with them.
However all of a sudden they closed down without paying up equivalent amount or returning my Bitcoins and my many attempts to contact them have failed and all my mails got bounced.
It all started by blocking my access to my account.
Later to my horror, I found from google search that my own money, 90.33BTC have been stolen by someone intentionally, as below:
 
Address1CWxx7y9cYHC13zuQYDiZBBgNW6vU4Z6CR
Hash1607e5426c9712b36628984c0282310da08811937a9
Transactions2 (1 in, 1 out)


Total BTC In90.33000000
Total BTC Out90.33000000
Current Balance0.00000000
Formats[json]
Transactions
 
TxBlockAddressTypeValueTotal
c23400c882460658a33603780dcd640b87f769427fef364afc98d1a1a4e7a3751976801Kadtpf4J AWQKwmQL7PSNs1bajPLDFwMfd
->90.3300000090.33000000
798b331c72b0f2f263ed5020bf72bda82cc6888000c3f06a94ed61aca7f35bf4197819
1AgtGHvLnefe2f4B2BrwT5AtUoa1qR48t5
(32.48000000)
1DDNfTh4C129Jv6UQhYCWCDCqV8XrCHNaV
(57.85000000)
 
This is very clear that CryptoXchange started operation with a criminal mindset to rob their un-suspecting clients and I am a victim.
Is there a way out to get my money back ?
Please help.
 
Thanks,
PM.Ravindran
Mumbai - India

Nope, welcome to Bitcoin. I've been waiting for them to return my coin too. I had a bunch of Namecoin with them also. Just lock all your Bitcoins in a safe on a paper wallet because sending them to an exchange you risk losing all of them. Or just trade them for product at a huge reputable company like Overstock or Newegg. Why should you take the risk. Let the company be the loser when the exchange disappears.